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ap3572001
10-08-2011, 11:12 AM
USP, SIG, S&W 4506-1 etc. What are best .45's for duty in Your opinion? (NO 1911's)

cmaynes
10-08-2011, 11:13 AM
the HK45 and the Glock 21SF are the most popular ones I see...

jeep7081
10-08-2011, 11:13 AM
My vote is 4506-1 :D (in my avatar)

zfields
10-08-2011, 11:18 AM
I see mainly .45 HKs for duty guns, not so much glocks or the rest. In .40 and 9mm, glock and sig.

Personally I like steel / hefty guns.

hkdad
10-08-2011, 11:34 AM
hk usp or hk 45

Mighty J ho
10-08-2011, 11:45 AM
Sigs are great!

k1dude
10-08-2011, 11:45 AM
S&W M&P 45?

shooting4life
10-08-2011, 11:48 AM
625's are the best 45's
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/shooting4life/IMG_2935.jpg

209Man
10-08-2011, 11:55 AM
625's are the best 45's
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/shooting4life/IMG_2935.jpg

VN looking guns, i like the grips, don't care for the finger grip types..

Oceanbob
10-08-2011, 12:32 PM
Glock 30

MrExel17
10-08-2011, 12:39 PM
HK P30 .45 - been eying it for awhile now, or a GLOCK 21 thoughs are my picks

richie3888
10-08-2011, 12:40 PM
Glock 21 ftw

zfields
10-08-2011, 12:40 PM
Glock 30

Glock 30 for duty? Id pass on that, wouldnt mind a 21 as much!

sevensix2x51
10-08-2011, 12:45 PM
The USP in .45 is a mighty fine handgun. I liked mine very much, but a friend of mine made me an offer I couldn't refuse. Otherwise, I would probably still own it. I have moved away from polymer pistols, but if I had to pick one, the USP never let me down. I liked it more than the Glock 21, which I also owned for a few years.

Gonna need big paws for it, however.I think most double-stack .45's are that way. I know my Glock 21 was.

Echidin
10-08-2011, 12:45 PM
Glock 30

+1 for the G30.

Very accurate, reliable and recoil is not what you would expect from a 24 oz. polymer pistol.

sammy
10-08-2011, 12:50 PM
Another vote for a Glock 21 or 30.

FUBAR
10-08-2011, 12:50 PM
Glock 21 or S&W M&P 45.

FiveSeven
10-08-2011, 12:55 PM
Glock 30 for duty? Id pass on that, wouldnt mind a 21 as much!

If you had it in a good level retention holster, technically I don't see the drawback it being used as a duty gun. Yes, it's a compact but it can take 21 magazines and the 10 rounders are flush + it makes the gun less bulky especially in a vehicle/driver carry (but still fully loaded it's just as heavy as most other .45's).
IMO it would be a good duty gun since it's more accurate than full size, but then again most things happen within 10 feet or so....
I guess finding proper holster could be challenging.

Echidin
10-08-2011, 12:58 PM
Glock 30 for duty? Id pass on that, wouldnt mind a 21 as much!


I don't see why not. I've heard of LEOs carrying the Glock 23 (compact model of the G22) as their duty weapon so why not the compact model of the G21?

zfields
10-08-2011, 1:01 PM
If you had it in a good level retention holster, technically I don't see the drawback it being used as a duty gun. Yes, it's a compact but it can take 21 magazines and the 10 rounders are flush + it makes the gun less bulky especially in a vehicle/driver carry (but still fully loaded it's just as heavy as most other .45's).
IMO it would be a good duty gun since it's more accurate than full size, but then again most things happen within 10 feet or so....
I guess finding proper holster could be challenging.

How is a 30 more accurate then a 21 ( this is an honest question )

I guess I have a big enough hand were a full size is just that much more comfortable for me, and I could find NO reason to ever use a compact mag in a duty gun, unless of course plainclothes.

FiveSeven
10-08-2011, 1:28 PM
How is a 30 more accurate then a 21 ( this is an honest question )

I guess I have a big enough hand were a full size is just that much more comfortable for me, and I could find NO reason to ever use a compact mag in a duty gun, unless of course plainclothes.

Personal experience + many others who shot both.
In my experience it's as accurate as high end 1911's (my main reason for my purchasing one).
I guess I have big hands since I made my 30 even wider (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image3-1.jpg), it's just as comfortable as 21..... or actually more so. It's not front heavy and balances just perfect between shots, I guess that might contribute to it's accuracy, maybe not as much frame flex as well.
Compact mags hold 10 rounds. With +1 you have 11 rounds and I think that's plenty enough. 21 mags are only 13, you can carry 21's (mags) on your belt.

morrcarr67
10-08-2011, 1:36 PM
Mine. Because they're mine :)

Briancnelson
10-08-2011, 1:41 PM
I have shot and love M&P's and XD's, Glocks are very popular, and good duty guns apparently, I just can't shoot them for beans. Sigs and HK's are very popular, but IMO aren't all that compared to the guns I just mentioned. I don't really seem to shoot them any better than the others, and frankly triggers seem to be a matter of personal choice more than some universal "better" or "worse".

Something durable, accurate, and reliable is what you want in a duty weapon and ultimately I'd just shoot them and see which feels most comfortable to you, that's really all that matters. I think the polymer guns stand up a bit better to being concealed, and might be a little lighter in a duty holster.

Echidin
10-08-2011, 1:41 PM
How is a 30 more accurate then a 21 ( this is an honest question )

I guess I have a big enough hand were a full size is just that much more comfortable for me, and I could find NO reason to ever use a compact mag in a duty gun, unless of course plainclothes.

I think it really boils down to the user, but Mas Ayoob goes into a little more detail about the difference in accuracy between the compact and full-sized models.

I guess it would have helped if I had posted the link:

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1323189

ExtremeX
10-08-2011, 1:49 PM
I dont own one, yet... but Sig P220 is really high up on my list. P220 Elite or Combat with an SRT trigger seems like a real game player. Pretty expencive guns.

I also like XD and M&P, Glock 45s dont fit my hand well...

Chances are my first .45 will be a P220. Id consider HK but I never had a chance to shoot one... Just seems really expencive for a polymer gun.

CSACANNONEER
10-08-2011, 1:56 PM
Best 45s?

I thought most people have moved to 33 1/3 LPs by now.

But, the best 45 I have is a picture disc of Iron Man.

runngun
10-08-2011, 2:14 PM
glock 21 or HK USP. Both my favorites that i own and have carried.

luckygunner
10-08-2011, 3:03 PM
I would rent each of the big three (XD,Glock,M&P) and see which you like the best. Since you are looking at the USP I would shoot it too. It's much cheaper to rent and find what you like best vs guessing and replacing the firearm later.

In the 45 I'm partial to the FNP.

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InGrAM
10-08-2011, 3:11 PM
Sig P220

Dhena81
10-08-2011, 3:38 PM
Can't say 1911 :willy_nilly: well that sucks

Almost all modern manufacture firearms are going to be a great choice I personally from just a reliability standpoint think the HK45 is the cream of the crop.

You won't be making a bad choice going with in no particular order

HK
Glock
Sig
FHN
XD
S&W
Beretta
Ruger :(

Dhena81
10-08-2011, 3:49 PM
625's are the best 45's
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/shooting4life/IMG_2935.jpg

I handled one of those JM the other day and I think that is an awesome gun one that one day I'll own. If I didn't just put a deposit on a TRP full rail and have another TRP on the way from Buds.

bsg
10-08-2011, 4:22 PM
w german/german Sig P220 would get my vote. you've really got to try out your final list of contenders before making purchase, imo.

hkdad
10-08-2011, 4:27 PM
625's are the best 45's
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/shooting4life/IMG_2935.jpg

I'm not a revolver guy, but I won't mind owning one of those.

thejudge50
10-08-2011, 4:31 PM
KImber all models. I also like my Glock 36 for concealed carry

Remaxman
10-08-2011, 4:33 PM
Another vote for SIG P220.

beingretiredsucks
10-08-2011, 4:53 PM
Glock 21 for ruggedness/reliability/simplicity/price.

dwtt
10-08-2011, 6:48 PM
FNP-45. DA/SA trigger, decocker, 17-rd capacity, tough, and as accurate as a glock (I only own a Glock 20 to compare it to), reliable.

Q619
10-08-2011, 7:08 PM
I'd go with a HK45 or HK45c

Dark Mod
10-08-2011, 7:14 PM
Glock gets my vote

g17owner
10-08-2011, 7:19 PM
Having owned all three of the majority of recommendations listed (1996 built P220, Gen 2 Glock 21 and HK USP 45) I would say USP all the way. Grip is slimmer than the G21 I had, carried more rounds then the P220, and I could carry it in condition 1 which was a big plus. Only down side IMHO is its proprietary rail but I actually like the M2 light better than my M3. Plus its the only one of the three that can handle +P+ rounds with relative ease or the lack of an aftermarket 'kit'.

Q619
10-08-2011, 7:38 PM
It's really hard to beat this kind of performance: http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027

InGrAM
10-08-2011, 7:42 PM
It's really hard to beat this kind of performance: http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027

The M&P9 did ;) but yes, the HK45 is very impressive.

http://pistol-training.com/archives/998

Legasat
10-08-2011, 7:59 PM
My fav so far is my M&P .45, but I have not shot the HK45 yet...

den888
10-08-2011, 8:02 PM
Sig P220, Glock 21 or Glock 30, HK USP

jyo
10-08-2011, 8:31 PM
Count me in for the HKs---HK45 - 45C - USPf 45 - or even a USP Compact in 45---I have the 45C and the USPf and really like 'em!

pyromensch
10-08-2011, 9:11 PM
S&W M&P 45?

liking it better every day

pyromensch
10-08-2011, 9:15 PM
Best 45s?

I thought most people have moved to 33 1/3 LPs by now.

But, the best 45 I have is a picture disc of Iron Man.

can someone turn up the volume? csacannoneer didn't hear the question! :)

Q619
10-09-2011, 2:40 AM
The M&P9 did ;) but yes, the HK45 is very impressive.

http://pistol-training.com/archives/998

I have a M&P 9mm and like it.....but it feels nowhere near as substancial as my HK P30. The trigger isn't as good either. Even given the lower bore axis, the felt recoil and muzzle flip are more pronounced on the M&P. Still a hell of a gun. If you could take the ergonomics from the M&P along with the trigger, simplicity and easy takedown of the Glock while keeping it at that price point you might very well have the perfect plastic gun!

Ergonomically, the only two things I'd change on the M&P would be to have more of an undercut on the front strap and have it rounded/narrowed more where the undercut connects the trigger guard and the front strap as well as not have the narrowing of the back of the gun up by the web of your hand....just have it continue straight without the contour.

The test gun was impressive but the slide cracking makes me more nervous than if it were something expected like a spring....or the polymer frame at a stress point (due to being run WAY hotter for much longer and much more often than any of us will ever run a gun).

It DID have one more parts breakage and one more stoppage while the HK45 had one malfunction that might have been due to a spring not being installed correctly :p. Either way, you have a winner :D I don't feel undergunned or question the quality/reliability of my M&P.

gunafficionado
10-09-2011, 4:20 AM
Glock G21....price and performance.

jigenax
10-09-2011, 4:39 AM
Excluding my M1911s, it would have to be SIG P220 & Springfield XD45 Compact. Glock 21/30 are abit too big for me to have a proper grip.

fennecfrank
10-09-2011, 7:30 AM
several choices for a good .45:

Sig P220, P220 Carry
HK Mark 23/Mk23
HK P9S
HK HK45, HK45C
Glock 21

Striker
10-09-2011, 8:02 AM
The M&P9 did ;) but yes, the HK45 is very impressive.

http://pistol-training.com/archives/998

You're comparing a 9mm pistol to a .45. Not the same. The 9mm gun should have a longer life span with fewer problems because there is less stress on it. A better comparison is the M&P 9mm to the HK P30 or the M&P .45 to the HK 45.

appagohm
10-09-2011, 9:14 AM
Springfield armory Xd45, or Glock 21. Sigs would be good but not a fan of the single stack mags. Usp45 are good as well but really dont' like how it looks like two rectangles put together. Either one of these firearms would be a good duty gun though. I would trust all four of these pistol to go bang when the trigger is pulled.

intl1911
10-09-2011, 11:36 AM
I would have to agree, if a 1911 is not an option :) then a glock 21 is the best. However as a revolver lover I also agree on the 625.

People say the revolver is slow to load, but I have won a few IDPA matches with mine and my scores have even beat out some of the auto shooters.

CSACANNONEER
10-09-2011, 11:57 AM
can someone turn up the volume? csacannoneer didn't hear the question! :)

WHAT???

Glock G21....price and performance.
As someone who owns a G21, I'd go f
Wirh a 1911 or a 2011 before I grabbed a Glock.

CessnaDriver
10-09-2011, 12:09 PM
It's really hard to beat this kind of performance: http://pistol-training.com/archives/4027


That is what convinced me for the purchase.
Though note that they changed the sights and I didn't like them either
so changing them too.

loosewreck
10-09-2011, 12:09 PM
Best 45s?

I thought most people have moved to 33 1/3 LPs by now.

But, the best 45 I have is a picture disc of Iron Man.



can someone turn up the volume? csacannoneer didn't hear the question! :)

I though he was a DJ. :D

Back on topic-
If Glock made a single stack full size for my small paws, that would be my choice. Otherwise, I'd default to 1911s.

ZX-10R
10-09-2011, 2:08 PM
1911 and M&P 45...Off Roster SSE - FNP-45.

InGrAM
10-10-2011, 11:18 AM
You're comparing a 9mm pistol to a .45. Not the same. The 9mm gun should have a longer life span with fewer problems because there is less stress on it. A better comparison is the M&P 9mm to the HK P30 or the M&P .45 to the HK 45.

Look at the context of the post before you respond :facepalm:. I was clearly being a smart ***.

Check this out if you like the HK P30 (which I am sure you do since you had to come in and defend HK)
http://pistol-training.com/archives/2626#more-2626

pkc168
10-10-2011, 12:20 PM
Sig P220 is my vote.

Sumo99
10-10-2011, 12:49 PM
Of the 4 .45's I own, my preference is:
1) The gun you said was not an option
2) Sig P220
3) HK USP
4) Glock 21
#1 is the most accurate and has the best trigger, but it also requires the most maintenance. 2 & 3 are pretty much even. The Sig is more comfortable but I prefer the safety/decocker on the HK. In double action, the sig is better, but the HK has a better single action. The P220 has never had a malfunction (it's my oldest pistol), neither has the HK (It's new and I've only shot it twice). The Glock, is well, a Glock. It goes bang, have never had a problem, I'm just not that good of a shooter with it. I actually prefer my buddies XD45 over my Glock, just because I can shoot it much better.

I still need to try the M&P

Q619
10-10-2011, 2:52 PM
You'll dig the M&P. While the triggers/reset aren't the best, the ergo's as a whole are great and they're reasonably priced guns. The sights that M&P's come with are the best factory sights I've seen outside of some 1911's and the Sig tritium sights....both of which will run you more $ :D

Can't go wrong with an M&P.


Of the 4 .45's I own, my preference is:
1) The gun you said was not an option
2) Sig P220
3) HK USP
4) Glock 21
#1 is the most accurate and has the best trigger, but it also requires the most maintenance. 2 & 3 are pretty much even. The Sig is more comfortable but I prefer the safety/decocker on the HK. In double action, the sig is better, but the HK has a better single action. The P220 has never had a malfunction (it's my oldest pistol), neither has the HK (It's new and I've only shot it twice). The Glock, is well, a Glock. It goes bang, have never had a problem, I'm just not that good of a shooter with it. I actually prefer my buddies XD45 over my Glock, just because I can shoot it much better.

I still need to try the M&P

AeroEngi
10-10-2011, 3:08 PM
USP, SIG, S&W 4506-1 etc. What are best .45's for duty in Your opinion? (NO 1911's)

If you're not interested in 1911's then I highly recommend the Sig P220. Damn thing is reliable as hell!. I've fired over 2000 rounds through mine and not even one hiccup. It's accurate, very comfortable and the trigger is good. You just can't go wrong with a P220.

orangeusa
10-10-2011, 3:19 PM
Ruger P345 - good enough for Ayoob.... And they don't make P90's anymore.


I can tear a hole at 15 yards with my P90. And I am not a great shot.

P220ST
10-10-2011, 3:25 PM
I'm a little biased, but P220 gets my vote!

themailman
10-10-2011, 3:53 PM
Ive only owned one .45 in the past, and that was a stainless P220. It was a bit big for being a single stack, but it was relaible as hell. Had to sell it for personal reasons, but I wish I could get it back.

Metal Monster
10-10-2011, 4:48 PM
S&W M&P 45?

For the M&P 45 you'd have to get an upgraded aftermarket trigger. The factory trigger is squishy and not precise. On dry firing, I notice a lot of movement (shaking) after pulling the trigger (like my bb gun). Makes me wish I got an XD45 or a G21.

Getting back on subject. The best duty gun would be the SA 1911-A1 MC Operator. Took that to the range today, for the first time and it kicks a**!!! Solid, accurate, precise at any range, and it's a good looking gun. [Edit: "No 1911?!?" Nevermind then. Good luck.]

Neptune
10-10-2011, 7:20 PM
I bought my first USP back in 1994 or so, and I waited forever for it to come in. I still have that gun with tens of thousands of rounds through it without any issues. I love 1911's too, but if I had to recommend a fail safe .45 for duty use, it would have to be an HK45 variant, or a Sig P220. You can't go wrong with either one.


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DRAB_81
10-10-2011, 8:39 PM
I have owned and shot several 1911's, HK45, HK45C, HK USP45, HK USP 45C, XD45, M&P45, (2) G21SF's, G30SF & a GEN 4 G21.

The GEN 4 G21 has been the best 45 of the lot. I love the Glock trigger, Glock simplicity, Glock feel, Glock reliability & Glock capacity. I am absolutely in awe of this handgun. If I could only own ONE handgun, the GEN 4 Glock 21 would be it...

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/rabara9/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_6298.jpg

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/rabara9/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_9173.jpg
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Hollis
10-10-2011, 9:38 PM
I wouldn't say its the best, but i must say its 100% reliable and extremely accurate

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Agent Tikki
10-10-2011, 10:23 PM
Personal experience + many others who shot both.
In my experience it's as accurate as high end 1911's (my main reason for my purchasing one).
I guess I have big hands since I made my 30 even wider (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0803/sergey25/Guns/Image3-1.jpg), it's just as comfortable as 21..... or actually more so. It's not front heavy and balances just perfect between shots, I guess that might contribute to it's accuracy, maybe not as much frame flex as well.
Compact mags hold 10 rounds. With +1 you have 11 rounds and I think that's plenty enough. 21 mags are only 13, you can carry 21's (mags) on your belt.

The dual recoil springs are usually attributed to this phenomina. That's why there all over the Gen 4s.

fifthward
10-10-2011, 10:45 PM
Hk45c

No compromise

savtru
10-11-2011, 1:37 AM
@HOLLIS.... /////////////YEAH BABY.... I love my 4506-1. The most reliable and accurate gun I have owned. I am so deadly with this gun, it's not funny.

For a gun not made I have to give it to the S&W 4506-1...
For current manufactured I have to go with my XDM 45...

The SIG 220 my next. Unfortunately I haven't had to much work with the sig!

Bart1
10-11-2011, 8:18 AM
Having owned fired a few 45's I would have to say G30 ro 21. My first pick would have been the Sig220 but for the size and weight and only carries an 8rnd mag tips the scale to the Glocks for me. I really love the way my West German Sig220 shot...very accurate and realiable as heck!!

Ventura_Yak'r
10-11-2011, 1:56 PM
Here's my Lil stable of non 1911 .45's.... Accurate as hell w/ the Sig P220-ST!

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr177/ruwako/HKGlockSigsauer/45family1.jpg

Toolbox X
10-11-2011, 2:50 PM
FNP-45. DA/SA trigger, decocker, 17-rd capacity, tough, and as accurate as a glock (I only own a Glock 20 to compare it to), reliable.

Are there some 16 or 17 round mags I'm not aware of? I only have the 15rd mags.

1911RONIN
10-11-2011, 3:51 PM
Here's my Lil stable of non 1911 .45's.... Accurate as hell w/ the Sig P220-ST!

http://i481.photobucket.com/albums/rr177/ruwako/HKGlockSigsauer/45family1.jpg

Nice. I'm looking into polymer .45s...I shoot the XD series well--love the grip size and angle. Is the HK much different?

TheExpertish
10-11-2011, 4:08 PM
Yes, the H&K has its own unique feel. You may notice a biased trend below that I 110% agree with and a few side notes.

hk usp or hk 45

...Id consider HK but I never had a chance to shoot one... Just seems really expencive for a polymer gun.

Expensive but worth it. You can find gently used USP .45's for $600-700 all day.

Count me in for the HKs---HK45 - 45C - USPf 45 - or even a USP Compact in 45---I have the 45C and the USPf and really like 'em!

kinda odd to leave out the model of gun that JM Browning designed the cartridge for.. :rolleyes:

but if that's the criteria, my next choice out of my safe is the USP expert..

very, very accurate and will eat anything I have ever fed it it with zero malfunctions.. even reloads that other guns coughed up.. I have a couple of thousand through this one and I'll testify to it's reliability and performance..

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My top choice for you is the USP Expert .45. It makes a great duty weapon. If I was still an LEO that's what I would have upgraded my regular USP .40 to. I loved having an H&K as a duty weapon. I will also recommend getting the LEM trigger and make it DAO. I trained with Glock 22's in the academy and wanted to (1. keep in line with my training, and (2. Double-action to single-action is not a good trait for a duty weapon.

Socom16Fan
10-11-2011, 5:25 PM
My H&K USP Compact .45 has almost 15K rounds run though her with all original parts and mags (3) . Very reliable and accurate. I use and abuse her as well as CC her every day but you would never be able to tell by looking. I am not a follower, just a believer.

Prodigal_son
10-11-2011, 5:39 PM
My vote goes for the HK45c

Kosuki
10-11-2011, 6:04 PM
G21 is good. I find it a bit big for my liking though

Ventura_Yak'r
10-12-2011, 12:23 PM
Nice. I'm looking into polymer .45s...I shoot the XD series well--love the grip size and angle. Is the HK much different?

Sorry... No experience w/ the XD series...

Colt-45
10-12-2011, 12:30 PM
I have this one as a non 1911 .45:

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/155344.jpg

HK P30 .45 - been eying it for awhile now, or a GLOCK 21 thoughs are my picks

Isn't the HK P30 a 9mm? the .45 would be the HK45 wouldn't it?

TheExpertish
10-12-2011, 7:18 PM
...Isn't the HK P30 a 9mm? the .45 would be the HK45 wouldn't it?

P30 like the P2000 is also available as a .40 S&W. P2000 adds a 3rd with the .357 sig. HK45 is indeed a .45 ACP.

Ranger20
10-12-2011, 10:48 PM
2 non 1911's that I really like.. I've owned the G36 and currently own the SIG Combat...


Glock 36
http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT5V37TVaE58da89RQp6-cV1b1E6MiIGqfcWqlVRFDd3nXo29_r


And my favorite all around 45acp...

http://i908.photobucket.com/albums/ac288/Ranger20/100_4434.jpg

savtru
10-13-2011, 1:45 AM
Starting to like the XDM 45.....

bug_eyedmonster
10-13-2011, 2:56 AM
boo. this is my opinion, and please take it only as that, but there's nothing better than a well-made 1911. I've shot almost every non-1911 listed on this thread, and owned at one point or another some (if not most) of these guns.

Just to stir up the pot... has anyone here ever tried to deal with HK for any type of warranty issues? Working with HK is pretty much the worst thing I've ever done. Their customer service was horrible, they don't answer phones, the whole freaking company leaves for some kind of German event, and they do not stock parts to fix their guns that break more often than not.

Those torture tests are based on guns GIVEN TO THE TESTER BY THE MANUFACTURER (other than some of the hill billy Glock ones) and are supported by them with supplied ammo, all the service and techincal support they can handle, just like magazine editors. There's always talk of these guns being hand picked by someone, or specially fitted, blah blah blah... the bottom line is, they are done to sell people more guns. Again, this is just the thoughts of a random dude sitting with a computer, someone hold my beer while I put my flame suit on.

Jerry

mcat707
10-13-2011, 7:38 AM
Glock 21SF with 13+1 rounds of hot loads comin' at ya!

Moving Chicane
10-24-2011, 12:57 PM
I see mainly .45 HKs for duty guns, not so much glocks or the rest. In .40 and 9mm, glock and sig.

Personally I like steel / hefty guns.

What other all metal/steel .45's are there? I used some Kimber "competition model" (ACE ?) this past weekend at the range and loved it; the metal chasis absorbed the recoil better than any non-metal .45 I've used. But I'm not sure I want a 1911 derivative.....what else is there?

Low-Pressure
10-24-2011, 5:56 PM
P220

epcii
10-24-2011, 6:17 PM
Mine. Because they're mine :)

+1. There are many like it, but this one is mine. :cool:

Rhatical
10-24-2011, 8:35 PM
HK USP .45, look no further. But, if you must, a high quality 1911 is a decent alternative.

pyromensch
10-24-2011, 9:12 PM
What other all metal/steel .45's are there? I used some Kimber "competition model" (ACE ?) this past weekend at the range and loved it; the metal chasis absorbed the recoil better than any non-metal .45 I've used. But I'm not sure I want a 1911 derivative.....what else is there?

para-ordinance

i got one of the original steel frames, with my SA slide, barrel, and other parts

sorry, didn't read the "non-derivate" part

1lostinspace
10-24-2011, 9:16 PM
I rather have a g17 backed with 26 but if have to have ACP then G21&G30

ir0nclash86
10-24-2011, 9:33 PM
http://www.tomtac.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/f/n/fnp-45_tactical_15rd_flat_dark_earth_3_mags_66805.jpg

MAC USMC
10-24-2011, 9:40 PM
I have owned several .45's and liked them all, however the two that are simply outstanding in every regard: 1) HK .45C (compact) and, 2) the SIG SAUER 220.

Both are very accurate out of the box and handle well. I have medium sized hands and the HK is a little better fit. It comes with night sights, dual mag release, a de-cocker and safety combination lever which works like a charm. The mags have an extended "lip" which aids in control. The Sig, well it is a quality firearm and, like all Sigs is dead-on shooter. I shoot them both a lot and could not recommend one over the other. Comes down to personal choice.

Also, I own and shoot Springfield Armory, Colt and Smith & Wesson .45's. All very good weapons, the other two fall into the SUPERB CATEGORY for me.