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indetrucks
02-07-2007, 05:49 PM
Just as the title states,
Your individual answer will not be visible to others.

I am curious and did not find a similar poll when I searched.

I understand California is a Blue State, but in the past I have found gun owners to be Republicans.
You can vote no matter which state you represent.

*NOTE* If Libertarian please vote Independent and/or just state so in the thread. Cannot add after poll has already been posted.

Thanks

grammaton76
02-07-2007, 05:54 PM
Republican voter with libertarian preferences

jjperl
02-07-2007, 05:55 PM
where's the libertarian option?

indetrucks
02-07-2007, 05:56 PM
where's the libertarian option?

Wouldn't that be Independent?

grammaton76
02-07-2007, 05:56 PM
where's the libertarian option?

Looks like indie for you...

midnitereaper
02-07-2007, 06:01 PM
both parties have been in the house for many years now and every year this country sinks deeper and deeper into s@#! So I choose independent as I feel both rep and dem parties are just full of it!

FreedomIsNotFree
02-07-2007, 06:02 PM
Where are the Republicans? Are you kidding me?

RINO's.

CalNRA
02-07-2007, 06:08 PM
I have seen enough anti-gun republicans in my life to declare myself as an independent. The democrats are almost always anti-gun around this part of the country, that doesn't mean the GOP is for guns in any way.

indetrucks
02-07-2007, 06:24 PM
Were the Independent/Libertarian pollers at one point Republican?
If so, are you claiming Indi/Libertarian because you are ashamed of how Bush and fellow Republicans are running this country? But don't want to go as extreme as Democrat?

I'm just curious... I've never seen so many Independent/Libertarians

grammaton76
02-07-2007, 06:41 PM
Were the Independent/Libertarian pollers at one point Republican?
If so, are you claiming Indi/Libertarian because you are ashamed of how Bush and fellow Republicans are running this country? But don't want to go as extreme as Democrat?

I'm just curious... I've never seen so many Independent/Libertarians

Over time, I have noted that with few exceptions, I agree with most of the Libertarian party's ideals.

I will say that this has NOTHING to do with Bush or anyone else in current events.

My main issue is that there are too many laws and too many restrictions in this country. We've got a tax code that's created and manages to pay the salary of an entire profession of people whose entire job is to tell you, at YOUR expense, just how big to make the check. It ought to be a simple flat tax. That's just one of a myriad of reasons.

I also feel that our society's grown FAR too weak-minded, and that the children are being raised to value self esteem over self determination. This is resulting in a generation of slackers with no real chance to compete in the global economy. A more merit-oriented society which isn't afraid to let people eat lousy-tasting rations if they can't afford something better, would be far outside the realm of what the Republicans could allow (after all, they'd get outvoted by the outraged poor) and it's diametrically opposed to what the Democrats would have. I'm tired of paying for dead-weight people whose only excuse for not working is "it doesn't pay enough" or their own laziness.

Although the Republicans have a lot of things going for them, a focus on smaller government and fewer, better-written laws is not part of their focus.

I'll also say that if you were to look around other gun boards, you'll see that there's a disproportionate number of folks who wish that the libertarians were in charge.

One other reason I would very much like to see the Libertarians get a turn at bat, would be to break up the status quo.

thedrickel
02-07-2007, 06:41 PM
Umm on a site like this you really gotta include libertarian. Guess what my vote is . . . ?

IMHO, George Washington was right. Politcal parties have killed democracy in this country.

indetrucks
02-07-2007, 06:49 PM
Umm on a site like this you really gotta include libertarian. Guess what my vote is . . . ?

IMHO, George Washington was right. Politcal parties have killed democracy in this country.

yeah, sorry...
If a mod would like to add Libertarian as an option, He is more than welcome:)

NSR500
02-07-2007, 06:49 PM
I've been an Independent Conservative since 94. I choose to claim independent because there are Liars on both sides of the fence.

SemiAutoSam
02-07-2007, 06:52 PM
Common law would be a great replacement for today's many laws. No victim no crime no punishment. There is only one drawback when you do break the Common law the penalties are strict and swift. SO we wouldn't have the prison population we have now thats for sure. A rapist and or murderer would get the death penalty and it would be carried out in the same speed that Saddam convicted and hung. a murderer would not get out in 10-20 years. And with that we wouldn't have the expense in keeping these people breathing like we do now.

grammaton76
02-07-2007, 06:52 PM
Afraid I have no idea how to do that. The best I could do would be to lock the thread and let you create a new poll...

C.G.
02-07-2007, 07:00 PM
Independent voting almost always Republican - the lesser of the two evils.

SemiAutoSam
02-07-2007, 07:02 PM
Gram you can redo the poll when moving the thread to another area. I did it a few times when I was a Mod on GunsCal.com

FatKatMatt
02-07-2007, 08:28 PM
I'm a paleo-libertarian.

Republican and Democratic parties are exactly the same; they just differ on what they want to ban and which countries they want to invade.

Conservatism is dead and actual Liberalism never existed.

CalNRA
02-07-2007, 08:34 PM
Were the Independent/Libertarian pollers at one point Republican?
If so, are you claiming Indi/Libertarian because you are ashamed of how Bush and fellow Republicans are running this country? But don't want to go as extreme as Democrat?

I'm just curious... I've never seen so many Independent/Libertarians

I support the GOP in California in the instances where we as gun owneres needed the political pull to shoot down bills like AB352. Without the evil Republicans we would all be buying guns with an expensive little firing pin now. Without an evil GOP governor we would all be banned from buying ammo online. So if it helps the gun owners' rights to own guns, I support whoever is the most helpful.

When was last time a Democrat submitted a pro-gun bill in the California state legislature?

SKG19
02-07-2007, 08:39 PM
I agree completely, the Republicans and Democrats are the same guys in a slightly different suit. All they do is look out for themselves and do what it takes to keep the people who put them into power happy(i.e. the people with the money).

I will no longer vote for a candidate with a R or a D next to their name no matter what.

The Soup Nazi
02-07-2007, 08:44 PM
Not old enough to vote. Libertarian at hard, will sometimes side with the Republicans because they happen to coincidentally support my beliefs (often for the wrong reasons, but now we get into the whole ends justifying means arguement), however I view the Democratic and Republican Party as one giant congolmerate of stupidity who are interested in waging the culture and authoritarian state war a la late 19th century Prussia.

James R.
02-07-2007, 09:01 PM
Wouldn't that be Independent?
*shakes head* LOL, no...not even close. The LP has a cohesive set of ideals. You produce action and gain power though consensus. There is no power in a party which can't tell you what it stands for. IMHO the, "Independent" path is simply picking and choosing ala carte and more oft than not you're simply reduced to voting for this or that Republican or Democrat.

The Libertarian Party has enumerated a great many topics and then laid out quite clearly where they stand on them. People can join the party and agree to sign on to those principles (even if you don't agree with them all) & vote for the party candidates. This is done in the hope that with some cohesion the party can actually secure enough power to bring those principles to bear in shaping law.

I am a former Republican gone Libertarian about ohh 7 or 8 years ago. When a race comes down to a Democrat Vs a Republican I will almost w/o fail vote Republican unless I'm aware of some dirt on the Republican side which would preclude my voting for him/her.

Regards,

James R.

Alanski56
02-07-2007, 09:08 PM
Independent Conservative and damn proud of it. I refuse to drink the Kool-Aid of the Republicrats and Demicans. It's a one party system and the majority on both sides are a bunch of self indulged, out of touch with us little people, blow hard do nothings. I've been thoroughly disgusted with both sides for quite a while now. Thank you!

guimus
02-07-2007, 09:49 PM
I think I may actually be registered green...but maybe independant...don't recall right now. I've never voted a party line (any party), and I've never missed an election (even the bull**** ones.)

Bishop
02-07-2007, 10:36 PM
Not republican; conservative libertarian.

Bishop
02-07-2007, 10:38 PM
Not republican; conservative libertarian.

wutzu
02-08-2007, 12:52 AM
registered unaffiliated, vote libertarian/republican.

Can't stand the christian right, but absolutely loathe the far left

.223
02-08-2007, 01:08 AM
Registered Libertarian, but I'll vote for whatever candidate most closely follows my ideals.

C.G.
02-08-2007, 02:00 AM
Not republican; conservative libertarian.

How many times did you vote in the last election?:D

Obviously, not enough.:eek:

xenophobe
02-08-2007, 03:01 AM
Registered Republican, though I'm an Independent Conservative for the last decade or so. I'm really close to being Libertarian.

The whole two party system was designed to keep the two parties in power.

DedEye
02-08-2007, 03:19 AM
Liberal Democrat with libertarian leanings.

randy
02-08-2007, 04:53 AM
How many members are on here? Wouldn't it help our cause to all register Democrat? In the primary you can vote against the canidate that least represents your views. In the general you can vote for whomever you want.

If there were a Democratic canidate running against Scott or any other anti gun Dem in the primary you could vote for that person maybe everybody together could get the anti to lose in the primary. Then band together and vote in the General for the best canidate.

Just think you could vote against Hillary twice!!!!!!!!!!!!

paradox
02-08-2007, 07:05 AM
Were the Independent/Libertarian pollers at one point Republican?
If so, are you claiming Indi/Libertarian because you are ashamed of how Bush and fellow Republicans are running this country? But don't want to go as extreme as Democrat?



I've never been a Republicrat or a Demipublican, though one day in college I did sign register for every third party in a registration binge. I think I wound up being a Peace&Freedom party member from that. Now I'm registered "decline to state party affiliation" and vote in whatever damn primary I want.

paradox
02-08-2007, 07:06 AM
How many members are on here? Wouldn't it help our cause to all register Democrat? In the primary you can vote against the canidate that least represents your views. In the general you can vote for whomever you want.


Or register "decline to state party affiliation" and then sign up for the Democrat primary when you wish.

m1371
02-08-2007, 07:34 AM
To put it bluntly, 99.9% of the so-called "choices" out there SUCK.

Doesn't matter whether you vote Republican, Democrat or just don't vote at all. The winner is going to do their damndest to screw us over in their own particular fashion.

Besides thinning out the lawyer population, we should ban the whole concept of "career politicians". Our representatives should be in for one or two terms and then they are DONE.

There are plenty of people out there who are professionals in their respective fields and industries who could do a helluva lot better than the current mob in DC are doing right now.

chiefcrash
02-08-2007, 07:43 AM
i'm registered independant because i vote with whoever better fits my issues. I have my views on things, and they have different priorities. Whoever fits the bill best gets my vote, regardless of party affiliation...

kenc9
02-08-2007, 10:24 AM
1 Constitution Party
Jim Gilchrist, born 1949, founder of the Minuteman Project. He is considering a run for president, and has indicated that he will definitely run if Arizona Senator John McCain enters the race for president. [1]

2 Green Party
3 Libertarian Party
4 Personal Choice Party
5 Prohibition Party
6 Socialist Party USA
7 Independent Green Party of Virginia
8 Independents

kenc9
02-08-2007, 10:34 AM
1 Constitution Party
Jim Gilchrist, born 1949, founder of the Minuteman Project. He is considering a run for president, and has indicated that he will definitely run if Arizona Senator John McCain enters the race for president. [1]

2 Green Party
3 Libertarian Party
4 Personal Choice Party
5 Prohibition Party
6 Socialist Party USA
7 Independent Green Party of Virginia
8 Independents

http://www.constitutionparty.org/news.php?aid=433

Constitution Party National Veterans Coalition - “Six Key National Issues”
1. SECURE BORDERS
2. STRONG NATIONAL DEFENSE
3. ENFORCE LAWS TO PUNISH EMPLOYERS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS
4. ELIMINATE TAXPAYER SUBSIDIES AND SOCIAL PROGRAMS FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS
5. ENERGY INDEPENDENCE WITHIN FIVE YEARS
6. A CONSTITUTIONAL TAX SYSTEM THAT WOULD ELIMINATE THE FEDERAL PERSONAL INCOME TAX AND THE IRS

sthornwall
02-08-2007, 11:41 AM
I'm a Republican, although I do have some liberal beliefs. I am Pro Choice and Pro Stem Cell Reasearch. That's probably the extent of my liberalism.

NoTime2Shoot
02-08-2007, 11:56 AM
Non-Partisan.

They're all crooks.

jnojr
02-08-2007, 12:25 PM
I remain a registered Republican so I can vote for the good ones in the primaries.

xenophobe
02-08-2007, 01:15 PM
Were the Independent/Libertarian pollers at one point Republican?
If so, are you claiming Indi/Libertarian because you are ashamed of how Bush and fellow Republicans are running this country?

I didn't see this quip before... I was a hard line Republican but I grew up. I've considered myself a conservative independent long before GWBush hit the national scene. I actually like Bush and other than Iraq, has done a pretty decent job as President.

GW Bush has had really bad luck in Iraq, but I wouldn't dare imagine how badly things would be if Al Gore or John Kerry had won. Now THAT would be embarrassing for the country.

xenophobe
02-08-2007, 01:16 PM
1 Constitution Party
Jim Gilchrist, born 1949, founder of the Minuteman Project. He is considering a run for president, and has indicated that he will definitely run if Arizona Senator John McCain enters the race for president.

I would definitely consider voting for him.

Pulsar
02-08-2007, 02:35 PM
Libertarian

jumbopanda
02-08-2007, 02:40 PM
I would vote against the candidate I hate most (read Democrat, although I'd reconsider if a moderate, pro-gun Dem came along), but I wouldn't vote for a third party candidate. Yes, I do consider that to be throwing my vote away.

grammaton76
02-08-2007, 03:04 PM
GW Bush has had really bad luck in Iraq, but I wouldn't dare imagine how badly things would be if Al Gore or John Kerry had won. Now THAT would be embarrassing for the country.

You and me both... I love seeing peoples' faces when they're bashing Bush, and I observe that regardless of anything else, their other choice would've been a disaster... :)

Blackwater OPS
02-08-2007, 03:20 PM
Libertarian, although I am still registered as independent.

anotherone
02-08-2007, 08:09 PM
Given the parameters of the system, we are left with two choices: Republican or Democrat. All other choices indirectly lead back to those choices as well: Libertarian vote = vote for the Dems, Green Party vote = vote for the Reps.

Because, on average, most Republican candidates will do less to disrupt my lifestyle and take my property I have consistantly voted Republican. Those who see my way of life as some "barrier to social progress" continue to vote Democrat. Unfortunately for me there are more Dems than Republicans in California so I have continually surrendered my rights, priviledges, and property to them for a few decades now. It's alarming how quickly and thoughlessly we vote away the freedoms of others.

stag1500
02-09-2007, 01:29 PM
Althogh I started out as a Republican, I was never entirely confortable with the moral crusade that the Republicans are on (anti-abortion, anti-stemcell research, anti-drinking, anti-having sex with the light on in your bedroom, etc...).

After GWB came to power I finally realized that the Republicans and Democratics are simply two branches of the same statist party, and each competes with the other for the spoils of corruption. Furthermore, each party tries to impose its morality on the people through the legislature. (Sounds a lot like communism).

I'm a member of the Libertarian Party now because it pisses me off that some a**hole in Washinton, who never held a real job in his entire life, thinks he can tell me what's best for my body or my money or my children!

ravenbkp
02-09-2007, 02:32 PM
I register Libertarian but on the big races usually end up voting Republican. It seems the dems no longer understand the difference between a democracy and a free state so I cannot go there. I do not want to live if the freest nation on earth but in a truly free nation there is a difference!

HUTCH 7.62
02-09-2007, 10:53 PM
Mc Cain 2008!!!!!!!!!

redneckshootist
02-10-2007, 08:18 PM
I voted Republican but am actually a Libertarian

Super_tactical
02-10-2007, 08:33 PM
Savage 2008

cyberhh
02-10-2007, 10:14 PM
I am now a libertarian.

Every vote is made on the issue or individual first, party second.

caduckgunner
02-11-2007, 01:02 PM
I'm currently registered as a Republican, but now that they are no better than the dems, I think I;m going to change to a Independant.

63 tango
02-11-2007, 01:13 PM
i vote to keep them burnout, commie, liberal dems out of office.

LAK Supply
02-11-2007, 05:26 PM
Savage 2008

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!