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kwansao
10-05-2011, 5:49 PM
Thinking of getting an Armscor 206 .38 Special

http://thehandgun.info/img/Armscor/Armscor-M206-RIA.gif

or S&W Bodyguard .380.

http://desertdefender.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/bodyguard380.jpg

High Bridge quoted me ~$350 for the Armscor and ~$400 for the S&W.

The pistol would be for home defense or for use in the office. I'm inclined towards the revolver for simplicity of use, but the recoil may be too much for my elderly family members to use.

The .380 on the other hand may be too difficult to use for someone not familiar with automatics.

What's your vote?:confused:

kwansao
10-05-2011, 6:14 PM
If you vote "Other" please state your preference in a reply to the thread.

puropuro
10-05-2011, 6:17 PM
Wheelgun like a S&W model 66 K-frame loaded with .38sp (and the option of going to .357mag)

You're not carrying or concealing it, so the .380 is a poor choice. I'm not familiar with the Armscor, but it sounds like a better choice. Bigger, heavier gun is better for managing recoil.

maddoggie13
10-05-2011, 6:18 PM
Ruger LCR...38plus

bsg
10-05-2011, 6:23 PM
Wheelgun like a S&W model 66 K-frame loaded with .38sp (and the option of going to .357mag)




+1. i like that suggestion.

kwansao
10-05-2011, 6:43 PM
i have no problem with recoil, but my arthritic elderly family member with bad eyesight might not be able to handle a .38 special... let alone a .357 magnum!

tacticalcity
10-05-2011, 6:44 PM
I voted other because if at all possible you don't want to drop below 9mm for self defense.

There are more and more very compact 9mms being released. It is an emerging market. Getting the on the roster is another thing, however. This time next year there will probably be 10 times as many to choose from.

I have a Glock 26 9mm Baby Glock in my future, I can feel it. It is a little thicker than I would like but I trust it more than I do the Rugers, Khars, and Keltecs. It is also a lot cheaper than the gun I really, really want...the Springfield Armory EMP 9mm.

kwansao
10-05-2011, 6:47 PM
well, i already have a .45 and a 9mm.

JTROKS
10-05-2011, 6:48 PM
I vote for a model S&W 66 with a 4" barrel. Practice with 38 spl and when you're ready for a little more power get some 357 mags in the 125 to 158 grain fodder.

tacticalcity
10-05-2011, 6:50 PM
well, i already have a .45 and a 9mm.

Use one of them for self defense at the office. Defensively speaking the .380 is for when you need deep, deep, deep concealment and there is just no way to make a 9mm work.

Or they are for the fun of it. Because all guns are fun! Even BB guns!

But a reliable defensive round starts at 9mm. Shooting schools offering defensive handgun courses won't let you train with anything below 9mm because anything smaller is not a defensive handgun.

I like the .380s, and even the 22lrs. Just not for your stated purpose.

den888
10-05-2011, 6:57 PM
S&W 442/642/637

kwansao
10-05-2011, 7:06 PM
Like I said the .38ACP would be for someone who has major physical problems. She could barely shoot an Auto Ruger .22LR without becoming fatigued.
I know 9mm is the bare minimum.

Bug Splat
10-05-2011, 7:55 PM
38spl is an ok tame round. I don't personally like it and would rather have a 9mm or even 380. I've always hated the thin stubby handle in small older style revolvers. Feels very unstable and twists a lot in my hand.

Owned a G27 and while it was 100% reliable it was too thick to deep carry and uncomfortable having my pinky hanging off the end. Rather get a G23.

Own and carry a Bersa and like it but it can be complicated for new shooters. Safeties up the wazzoo.

I'm in the market now for a Kahr K40 which will be more kick than you want but the K9, P9 or CW9 are great options. Like a glock or revolver its just a point and pull the trigger. Simple to use.

Legasat
10-05-2011, 8:09 PM
I would choose a S&W or Ruger Revolver. I'll bet a heavier .38 Spl like the Ruger or S&W will kick less than a small lightweight .380, and much easier to use.

Just my $0.02

kwansao
10-05-2011, 11:38 PM
The super small kahr pistols are great! A bit pricey though.

InGrAM
10-06-2011, 12:00 AM
If it is not for CC then get something bigger in a larger caliber.

Glock_fanboy
10-06-2011, 12:33 AM
Desert tan Kel Tec PF9

http://www.kygunco.com/prodimages/29200-DEFAULT-L.jpg

Edit: idk the company at all. Just posting first picture that popped up in google

jessegpresley
10-06-2011, 12:37 AM
Don't buy that Armscor. I bought a Smith & Wesson 642 for $337 at Jetguns.com, which is a *much* more reliable weapon.

And if you're concerned about elderly family members, racking a slide can be very difficult. Cancel the Bodyguard.

Like the others, a K frame S&W would be infinitely better. 38sp out of my 3" K frame are very soft.

bsg
10-06-2011, 1:39 AM
I have a Glock 26 9mm Baby Glock in my future


the perfect companion/stablemate to that G17 you picked up not too long ago.

Quiet
10-06-2011, 6:57 AM
Other = 4" barrel .38Special revolver.

kwansao
10-06-2011, 5:54 PM
Well I might just have to get a double aciton .22 revolver then :puke:

BayouBullets
10-06-2011, 6:51 PM
My wife has small weak hands. So, I'm comparing your elderly shooter to her or one of my little girls. An heavy all-steel revolver like the Smith K-frames or a used Ruger Security Six typically shoots softer with 38's than the little 380 will. Those small .380's are snappy and difficult for novice shooters to even hit their target with. I would go one further though and add a hogue monogrip or a full-size target-style grip from Pachmayr (depending on the shooter's hand size). Either will turn a big steel .357 revolver into a real *****cat on recoil when loading with 38's. Both have good combat sights and both can be cocked with the left hand into single-action if your arthritic shooter has trouble with the double-action trigger.

Kodemonkey
10-06-2011, 7:31 PM
I'd vote for a full size revolver if it's not being concealed. For an older person who isn't used to semi autos, the ease of use of a wheelgun is a good idea IMHO.

The DA pull is going to be a little longer but under a defensive use it shouldn't be an issue.

Not sure if this is common across the board but snub nosed revolvers always seem to have much heavier trigger pull. I have a S&W 686 that the 9 year old next door loved to shoot. In fact it was her favorite. She had no problem with the DA pull.

LDSGJimbo
10-06-2011, 7:44 PM
I vote for the 38. 38 recoil is pretty similar to 40 cal imo

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XD Guy
10-07-2011, 12:25 PM
I use a Glock 27 (compact 40) for my carry permit. I would bet my life on it.