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Mad Jax
10-05-2011, 11:25 AM
I know this will rub some the wrong way, but ,I am looking for a CHEAP scope that functions. I've used friends optics at the range and I know I would like one to mount on my AR. I tend to shoot at ranges from 25-200 yards ( I am limited at the range). Nothing fancy ,nothing big, truthfully I don't even understand the science of MOA, or what power I should be looking at. I am not a dullered just never got that much into it. Any info would help. THanks

Vacaville
10-05-2011, 11:46 AM
Depends on what you consider cheap. For $100 - $150 you can get a functional base model scope that will hold zero and won't fall apart from the recoil. Stay away from Barska, Tasco, low model Bushnell, Leapers, and all the other scopes where you can get 6 - 40X magnification for $69 (most of the stuff in your Cheaper Than Dirt catalog). They are all crap.

There are enough variables involved in setting up a scope that you don't want the problem to be the scope itself. I made the mistake of buying an el cheapo scope the first time out, and it was a VERY frustrating experience trying to keep it zeroed. After a few months I got rid of it, and chalked up the $40 cost to learning a valuable lesson.

For your magnification range you are probably looking at a 1 - 4X or maybe 2 - 7X. Look at Bushnell Elite, Vortex Diamondback or Viper, Nikon Prostaff or Buckmasters, Burris Fullfield II, or Redfield. These are all base model, solid scopes that should serve your purposes. And these scopes are relatively cheap. A top of the line scope can run anywhere from $800 to $3000.

If your vision is good, you may even want to look at a red dot or holosight. Others who know more than me on the forum can make suggestions for those.

Places I've shopped for scopes that have low prices are Midway USA, Amazon.com, Cabelas, and Poor Fish Outdoors.

uscbigdawg
10-05-2011, 12:02 PM
Vacaville - You know that less than an hour drive away you have one of the largest scope distributors in the country. CS Tactical (http://www.cstactical.com/) is in Elk Grove and they are a Calguns supporter and a California company. Mike is as straight up as they come and will do everything he can to get you what you're looking for.

Just suggesting we try to keep our dollars within California even if it means paying a little more.

Rich

Vacaville
10-05-2011, 12:46 PM
Vacaville - You know that less than an hour drive away you have one of the largest scope distributors in the country. CS Tactical (http://www.cstactical.com/) is in Elk Grove and they are a Calguns supporter and a California company. Mike is as straight up as they come and will do everything he can to get you what you're looking for.

Just suggesting we try to keep our dollars within California even if it means paying a little more.

Rich

Just looked at the site and some of the prices look pretty good. I'll check it out next time I'm in the market for a scope.

Thanks

Mad Jax
10-07-2011, 7:01 PM
Wow, thats it? 3 responses. 2 from the same person.

LBDamned
10-07-2011, 11:20 PM
Wow, thats it? 3 responses. 2 from the same person.

second post was pretty damn informative.

What more are you looking for?

And no, I don't know the member - but it's about as thorough a post as your general thread can be.

The only thing missing is that Burris has E1 (an upgraded version of FFII)...

But with your "25-200" yard request - there isn't much more to add that Vacaville didn't write... instead of pondering the number of responses, you should be reviewing the scopes he mentioned.

Just my .02

daNkiest
10-08-2011, 9:29 AM
:xeno:

emc002
10-08-2011, 9:36 AM
:xeno:

Says the newbie! QFT

Given your criteria (AR15 platform), and the fact you're looking for a "scope" not a red dot, I'd look at the following (BTW, I'm assuming "cheap" means under $300.)
Falcon (http://swfa.com/Falcon-Menace-15-5x30-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P47586.aspx)
Nikon (http://swfa.com/Nikon-1-4x20-M223-Riflescope-P45743.aspx)
Millett (http://swfa.com/Millett-1-4x24-DMS-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P9251.aspx)

Alternatively, if you DO want a cheap red-dot, look at Primary Arms. I have a few of those and love them.

But this (http://swfa.com/Vortex-1-4x24-Viper-PST-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P44570.aspx) is what I run on a few of my ARs, but isn't "cheap", more like $500.

Cobra Tactical
10-08-2011, 4:14 PM
When it comes to optics - "Buy once, Cry once." You will get what you pay for. If you are looking at 25-200 I would consider a holographic red dot sight. What are you going to be engaging at this distance? Do you plan on using this weapon for hunting?

Cobra Tactical
10-08-2011, 4:21 PM
if you are looking at a Holographic EOTech, Aimpoint are great for 25-200. If you want to take it out a bit further you can look at a Trijicon ACOG. If you are looking a a variable power the Leupold Mark AR 3x9 with mil dot will run just a little over $400. it really comes down to how far you are shooting what what kind of targets you plan on engaging.

SxB
10-08-2011, 8:53 PM
Tagged.

emc002
10-09-2011, 1:17 PM
"Buy once, Cry once."

I personally hate this mantra, after all, who only owns 1 rifle? I've cried many times :p

wbrosha
10-09-2011, 2:13 PM
If you are looking for a relatively low cost scope with a good quality scope and arguably the best customer service I would take a strong look at vortex optics. I have 3 of them ranging from their low cost to their top of the line and love the ful spectrum.

only10x
10-09-2011, 2:24 PM
dont buy cheap unless you intend to replace it soon...

1lostinspace
10-09-2011, 2:43 PM
Get a Primary Arms 3x it has bullet drop compesation out to 600 yards. You don't need to know anything about MOA or Mils just 0 at 100 yards and the scope does the rest.