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ILVSMOG
09-30-2011, 3:09 PM
Some of you may have seen my post a few weeks back about a couple of my guns getting stolen out of my truck. Now, I'm in the process of trying to find a replacement for one of my beloved, expensive 1911s that was taken. I need a pistol that will live in my truck/backpack that goes everywhere with me. It will be on my LTC, so no storage/transport issues there. I'm planning on replacing my lost 1911 with another, but I've decided that since this pistol will not be on my person all the time and will have a relatively rough life, I don't want to beat up or risk another "nice" gun. Therefore, I've found myself looking for a pistol that meets these criteria:

1) .45acp (all but one of my other pistols are .45 and I don't want to introduce another caliber into my carry lineup)
2) sub-$500 either new or used
3) non-1911 (I get too attached to them and they magically extract time, money and aftermarket parts from me!)

So far, I've looked at and considered the S&W M&P45, Sig p220 LE trade-in, Springfield XD45 and the Glock 21. Have I overlooked any other obvious choices? Anyone have experience they can share with these models?

Thanks!!!

freonr22
09-30-2011, 3:18 PM
Ruger p90,p97,p345?

ILVSMOG
09-30-2011, 3:24 PM
I don't think I've ever seen one of those Rugers. Are they all legal/available in CA? How do they feel and shoot?

osxgp
09-30-2011, 3:26 PM
I think that you listed every option you should consider. Sig P220 is an excellent choice but has the SA/DA I don't care for. The Glock 21 is very large in the hand, so I would reccomend the 21 SF. The M&P and XD pistols fit perfectly in a large amount of hands. I would consider getting the Springfield XD 45 compact. It is just a little bit larger than the Glock 23 and it has the option of the extended grip. That will be the next gun I purchase.

ILVSMOG
09-30-2011, 3:31 PM
Also, please keep in mind that I shoot 1911s almost exclusively. The pistol I select needs to function and fit similarly. I was reading up on the Rugers, suggested above, and while they look like a great pistol for the money, I noticed the safety (at least on the p345) appears to operate exactly the opposite of that on a 1911. I've been taught to draw and ride the safety on my 1911s. That grip on the Ruger could be a bad, bad mistake in an emergency.

zfields
09-30-2011, 3:39 PM
XDs can be found very cheap right now.

tacticalcity
09-30-2011, 3:49 PM
Gunbroker.com is your friend. Find a trade-in.

Can't help you with the 45ACP...but this seller has some dirt cheap trade-in FN Browning 9mm's and Berettas that are on list. Check the list carefully before you buy unless you have a Single Shot Exemption guy lined up to receive it.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SellerAuctions.aspx?User=979927

I bought a Glock 17 trade in from this guy for $319 a couple months back.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SellerAuctions.aspx?User=781610

ILVSMOG
09-30-2011, 3:55 PM
XDs can be found very cheap right now.

I've been keeping an eye on the Calguns classifieds and GB for the last week or so. Any other classifieds you can suggest?

Gunbroker.com is your friend. Find a trade-in.

Can't help you with the 45ACP...but this seller has some dirt cheap trade-in FN Browning 9mm's and Beretta 92FS 9mms that are on list.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Sel...px?User=979927

I bought a Glock 17 trade in from this guy for $319 a couple months back.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Sel...px?User=781610

Thanks for the links. I saved both of those sellers and I'll keep an eye on them.

Richard Erichsen
09-30-2011, 4:01 PM
Also, please keep in mind that I shoot 1911s almost exclusively. The pistol I select needs to function and fit similarly. I was reading up on the Rugers, suggested above, and while they look like a great pistol for the money, I noticed the safety (at least on the p345) appears to operate exactly the opposite of that on a 1911. I've been taught to draw and ride the safety on my 1911s. That grip on the Ruger could be a bad, bad mistake in an emergency.

You are going to have a difficult time weening off of the superior manual of arms for the 1911 to any other handgun which you've already mentioned. Almost all safeties operate opposite of the 1911 in counter-intuitive fashion (however, if you learn on one of those double-action pistols you'll say the same of the 1911). Only the Browning Hi-Power (P35) operates similarly to the 1911, JMBs last project before he died. You'll be hard pressed to find one in .45 ACP since they are a weapon designed for a different military customer on the other side of the pond where 9x19 mm was the caliber of choice.

There is one other option worth considering, but once again there will be a learning curve, just not as much as jumping into a more typical double-action semi-auto. The Tangfoglio/EAA Witness (based on the CZ 75B) is available in .45 ACP and has versions that are single action (primarily for match use), but the controls are still different than that of the 1911. They aren't listed on the CADOJ roster anymore, but they come up for sale every so often on Gunbroker, GunsAmerica, etc. I prefer the older all steel guns anyway, the new weapons are modern plastic frame jobbies that lost something in the translation from the original weapon. Read more here: http://www.savvysurvivor.com/gearrevewtangfoglio_witness_series_pistol.htm

Your desire for the .45 ACP round on a weapon that operates like the 1911 pretty much seals the deal. A used, "gently beaten" USGI 1911A1 from any major maker will do ya. Don't bother trying to resist, there is no alternative for you. Learn to resist the urge to modify and "upgrade" it and you'll be fine.

R

Distro
09-30-2011, 4:03 PM
If you do decide to open up the 1911 option, just get a standard RIA 1911, can be had at Turners on sale for $419 before tax+DROS.

aermotor
09-30-2011, 4:08 PM
I would go Glock 21SF or Glock 30SF without even thinking about it. No hammers, no safeties, nothing hanging off the side. Ultimate simplicity and reliability for cheap. Look around enough and you can find one for $500 or less.

If you don't want to go that route then I guess an XD would do.

ILVSMOG
09-30-2011, 4:09 PM
Gah, I know, you guys are probably right about the 1911. My biggest problem is my emotional attachment to them. When one of mine got stolen, I was pretty seriously depressed. It felt like someone shot my dog. I love those things like they're members of the family. I'd have a pretty hard time if something happened to another one, especially another Colt. Maybe I should just quit whining and spend the +/- $1k for a Loaded Springer or even one of the new Sigs. The Sigs have that goofy external extractor, so maybe I could even fool myself into not loving it like a "real" 1911. :) Heh, "Sig, the ginger of 1911s" That's sure to offend somebody.

aermotor
09-30-2011, 4:14 PM
Goof external extractor? They may have had a bad rep when they first came out but I don't see the problem with them these days as any issues have been worked out.

paul0660
09-30-2011, 4:21 PM
but the controls are still different than that of the 1911.

Arent both 1911's and Cz's up for safe down for fire?

evidens83
09-30-2011, 4:22 PM
XD45

BajaJames83
09-30-2011, 4:22 PM
if you can find a single shot ffl, the FNP45 could be an option...

SteveSatch
09-30-2011, 4:23 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=471660&highlight=p97

shooterdude
09-30-2011, 4:28 PM
http://www.hi-pointfirearms.com/handguns/handguns_45acp.html

$199.00 msrp

llamatrnr
09-30-2011, 4:48 PM
I have a Glock 36 I'd take $500 for . . .

Cali-Shooter
09-30-2011, 4:55 PM
Get a used or LEO trade-in Glock 21. Or get an XD45.

robcoe
09-30-2011, 4:58 PM
Some of you may have seen my post a few weeks back about a couple of my guns getting stolen out of my truck. Now, I'm in the process of trying to find a replacement for one of my beloved, expensive 1911s that was taken. I need a pistol that will live in my truck/backpack that goes everywhere with me. It will be on my LTC, so no storage/transport issues there. I'm planning on replacing my lost 1911 with another, but I've decided that since this pistol will not be on my person all the time and will have a relatively rough life, I don't want to beat up or risk another "nice" gun. Therefore, I've found myself looking for a pistol that meets these criteria:

1) .45acp (all but one of my other pistols are .45 and I don't want to introduce another caliber into my carry lineup)
2) sub-$500 either new or used
3) non-1911 (I get too attached to them and they magically extract time, money and aftermarket parts from me!)

So far, I've looked at and considered the S&W M&P45, Sig p220 LE trade-in, Springfield XD45 and the Glock 21. Have I overlooked any other obvious choices? Anyone have experience they can share with these models?

Thanks!!!

Sub-500

Ruger P90 or RIA 1911

railroader
09-30-2011, 5:01 PM
You don't say where you are in so cal but turners in pasadena has a consignment ruger p97 for $350 in 90% condition. I have one and it is a lightweight accurate 45. They are decocker only so there isn't a safety. Mark

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss101/candymanmac/RugerP97.jpg

SteveSatch
09-30-2011, 5:04 PM
You don't say where you are in so cal but turners in pasadena has a consignment ruger p97 for $350 in 90% condition. I have one and it is a lightweight accurate 45. They are decocker only so there isn't a safety. Mark

http://i566.photobucket.com/albums/ss101/candymanmac/RugerP97.jpg

There's one in the for sale section here for $300 :)

llamatrnr
09-30-2011, 5:05 PM
APNF128 has a Glock 30 for $430 about 10 threads down - great gun - great price . . .

orangeusa
09-30-2011, 5:06 PM
Sub-500

Ruger P90 or RIA 1911

Yes. P90 is all metal, the P97 has a poly lower, but pretty good grip. I love my P90... :)

pacifico23
09-30-2011, 5:14 PM
Hi point, ugly, cheap but they are beaters. For like 180.00 or whatever you cant beat that. Heres a recent review of it by nutnfancy. For a cheap gun, rough reliable gun. It would be this. Then you can save the extra to your next nice 1911!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkq7WdB-0LA

Bug Splat
09-30-2011, 5:32 PM
Used Glock 21!

little oil on the rails and forget about it.

Richard Erichsen
09-30-2011, 5:35 PM
Gah, I know, you guys are probably right about the 1911. My biggest problem is my emotional attachment to them. When one of mine got stolen, I was pretty seriously depressed. It felt like someone shot my dog. I love those things like they're members of the family. I'd have a pretty hard time if something happened to another one, especially another Colt. Maybe I should just quit whining and spend the +/- $1k for a Loaded Springer or even one of the new Sigs. The Sigs have that goofy external extractor, so maybe I could even fool myself into not loving it like a "real" 1911. :) Heh, "Sig, the ginger of 1911s" That's sure to offend somebody.

I think you should give the previous poster's RIA 1911 suggestion serious consideration.

R

Richard Erichsen
09-30-2011, 5:38 PM
Goof external extractor? They may have had a bad rep when they first came out but I don't see the problem with them these days as any issues have been worked out.

It can be done right or done wrong, at this point the players that build them with an external extractor have figured it out. In theory that external extractor should be less fiddly, not more fiddly over time. There is also an interesting hybrid that has an extra spring, which is odd, since the internal extractor is just one big spring itself.

R

bsg
09-30-2011, 5:39 PM
i'd suggest you continue to consider the Sig P220. try one out if you haven't already. i prefer the older w german examples; personal preference.

Richard Erichsen
09-30-2011, 6:07 PM
Arent both 1911's and Cz's up for safe down for fire?

The safety position is the same (Down for FIRE, up for SAFE), but how the controls feel and the location of those controls are not in the same positions for reusing tactile "muscle memory." The learning curve is shorter than for switching from 1911 to more typical double-action semi autos.

That the CZ 75 or Tangfoglio clone is available in single action, or could be converted by a competent gunsmith, is why I added it to the list. Even the Browning Hi-Power takes some getting used to and that's about as close as you get to 1911 feel in a non-1911 gun.

R

Foriegn power
09-30-2011, 6:10 PM
Used Glock 21!

Richard Erichsen
09-30-2011, 6:11 PM
i'd suggest you continue to consider the Sig P220. try one out if you haven't already. i prefer the older w german examples; personal preference.

Nothing is more dissimilar from the 1911 philosophy than the European double-actions. For what it is, it's a great semi-auto, but for those who have already had a double-dose of the 1911 koolaid, it's very hard to switch.

R

railroader
09-30-2011, 6:13 PM
There's one in the for sale section here for $300 :)
I can't believe you haven't sold that p97. I guess people don't realize what you are selling. Mark

RealBarber
09-30-2011, 6:58 PM
Glock 21SF

c good
09-30-2011, 7:04 PM
I can't believe you haven't sold that p97. I guess people don't realize what you are selling. Mark

This is a great deal if still available. Ruger P series are under rated and definitely one of the best deals out there. My old P85 just never quits. c good

bsg
09-30-2011, 8:42 PM
Nothing is more dissimilar from the 1911 philosophy than the European double-actions. For what it is, it's a great semi-auto, but for those who have already had a double-dose of the 1911 koolaid, it's very hard to switch.

R


you know... i'm going to agree with you here. i think the answer is to stick with what he knows and loves the best. i'd suggest that his carry gun, HD gun and primary range gun be of the same platform. it is evident the OP is not looking to abandon his trusted 1911 platform... and i think he's best to go with it now as he has in the past, and not turn to a different style handgun for certain times of the day, or when traveling.

ExtremeX
10-01-2011, 2:51 AM
My pick would be XD45 or M&P.

den888
10-01-2011, 6:59 AM
Glock 21, 30 or 36

sekatoa
10-01-2011, 7:32 AM
Glock 21, 30 or 36

+1 on this. I have a used Glock 21 I picked up in trade for exactly this purpose, when and where I can-which isn't much!

billybob_jcv
10-01-2011, 9:52 AM
In this situation, I think I would either stick with a 1911 and get an RIA (or a similar low-priced 1911), or I would go completely low-end ghetto and get a hi-point .45. But, with either one, I would definitely shoot it enough to make sure it was 100% reliable so it will work when you need it to work!

Synergy
10-01-2011, 11:05 AM
Also, please keep in mind that I shoot 1911s almost exclusively. The pistol I select needs to function and fit similarly. I was reading up on the Rugers, suggested above, and while they look like a great pistol for the money, I noticed the safety (at least on the p345) appears to operate exactly the opposite of that on a 1911. I've been taught to draw and ride the safety on my 1911s. That grip on the Ruger could be a bad, bad mistake in an emergency.

Its a little above your range of 500, but the USP has almost identical controls as the 1911, same grip angle, can be carried condition 1. I love my USP Compact and have no problem transitioning from a 1911 to the USP or vise a versa.

USP for 766 at Buds
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/15374

Markus
10-01-2011, 11:12 AM
if youve got monster hand go for a cz 97!

Dhena81
10-01-2011, 2:04 PM
Used USP 45 compact or just get the HK45C

ojisan
10-01-2011, 2:35 PM
Frame mounted push-down-to-fire safety levers are also available from Taurus (24/7 and Millenium models in 9mm, .40 and .45), also the Ruger SR (9mm and .40 only for now).
Both cost less than a 1911 by far.

Grumpyoldretiredcop
10-01-2011, 3:10 PM
There are a lot of used Glock 21/21SF pistols popping up on the sale forum. They can be beaten pretty severely and still be expected to function.

JJ1911
10-01-2011, 4:55 PM
Glock 21sf. Sold my glock 21 and regret it.

cgood311
10-01-2011, 5:06 PM
I was told by Turner's today that the Glock 21 Gen 4 is not CA legal? Is this true?

!@#$
10-01-2011, 6:05 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=484068

this is a good deal

tuna quesadilla
10-01-2011, 6:11 PM
+1 vote for Glock 21 or Glock 30.

I was told by Turner's today that the Glock 21 Gen 4 is not CA legal? Is this true?

It's perfectly legal; as an average citizen, you just have to jump through some hoops to get one.

olhunter
10-01-2011, 6:18 PM
You really want a beater that won't pain you if it gets stolen, get the Hi-Point. Heck, you could probably get 3 for $500. And it won't bother you one teensy bit if it gets stolen (except for the money part). They're pretty damn ugly, but they work.

!@#$
10-01-2011, 6:20 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=471660

this is a good deal too.

ILVSMOG
10-02-2011, 3:38 PM
Dang, I missed a couple good deals while I was gone this weekend. :( It looks like it's going to be either a Glock 21sf or XD45, probably whichever I come across first. I'm on the hunt for a replacement 1911 as well, but it won't be subjected to the same rough life as the last one.

PanaDP
10-02-2011, 4:41 PM
In your place, I would get a basic RIA 1911. Don't do anything to it to tighten it up, pretty it up, etc. Just leave it loose and therefore reliable. Shoot it a bunch and keep it lubed and it will be perfect for you.

ILVSMOG
10-02-2011, 6:39 PM
I've dealt with this guy before and had a good experience.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=254162364

Price is definately right . . . opinions?

pyromensch
10-02-2011, 7:19 PM
i have 1911 types exclusively, but got my hands on an m&p 45 compact, love it, and am looking at the full size version, it felt much better in my hand, than the XD, which was going to be my first choice

a plus is the m&p has a stainless slide, and of course a polymer frame, "set it, and forget it"

watsonville
10-02-2011, 9:00 PM
Well if "cheap beater" is what you want there's a hi point 45 acp on gun broker that's a 200$ option and it's steal no if I was you I'd get a cheap 22 just my 02.

jazzyjey
10-02-2011, 9:02 PM
CZ 97B

tuna quesadilla
10-02-2011, 9:34 PM
I've dealt with this guy before and had a good experience.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=254162364

Price is definately right . . . opinions?

If you want to ignore all of our advice and trust your life to a questionable pistol manufactured in a third-world country, then yes it is a good buy. :)

ILVSMOG
10-03-2011, 6:35 AM
Ignore whose advise?? Several people have recommended RIAs and even a couple of votes for Hi-Point!! BEsides that, I know a LOT of people have had very good results with RIAs. I know it's a lower price-point, but I certainly wouldn't catagorize them as junk. I'm also not saying I really want one either . . .

Old4eyes
10-03-2011, 7:02 AM
The grip angle of the XD45 will be similar to that of a 1911. The trigger won't be but nothing is like the trigger of a 1911. The biggest problem I have when going from the 1911 to the XD is that my thumb placement for assuring the thumb safety is disengaged on the 1911 will put it on top of the slide lock of the XD causing the slide not to lock back on the last round.

If you are used to a commander size 1911, go with the XD service model. If you prefer the govt. size, look at the tactical XD.

ILVSMOG
10-03-2011, 7:14 AM
I've read about the thumb placement issue with 1911 guys and the XD. I shot my brother in law's XD9c and it didn't bother me too bad. I'd probably go for the Service model, but it's still going to come down to whatever I can find a deal on.

Richard Erichsen
10-03-2011, 7:26 AM
I've read about the thumb placement issue with 1911 guys and the XD. I shot my brother in law's XD9c and it didn't bother me too bad. I'd probably go for the Service model, but it's still going to come down to whatever I can find a deal on.

What you play around with on the range and what you fall back to under stress tends to be two different scenarios. If your brain is conditioned to do something unconsciously (and therefore much faster than having to do it consciously) bad things happen when the firearm in your hand doesn't work the way you trained. Imagine being in the most awful of scenarios with no escape route and no other choice but to draw and under the stress the lever you just mashed on the weapon you just made ready was the decocker or the slide stop instead of the safety.

If you choose a non 1911 firearm at this point and hope to use it for defense, it's going to take many hundreds if not thousands of rounds to recondition the brain to the operation of the new handgun. A "cheap" gun plus the ammo required to overcome instincts might not be so cheap all told. What's the going rate for 1500 rounds of .45 hardball to familiarize? Looks to be about $400 for a really good deal, about $500+ with shipping at a more typical, less stellar rate.

A 1911 clone will keep you out of trouble, you already know how to use it, a couple boxes of ammo to make sure it all works properly and into the pack or vehicle it can go.

R

dicksailor
10-03-2011, 10:43 AM
I would have to recommend a Taurus Millenium. My PT145 is my EDC. Have had some hiccups with the magazines, but Taurus fixed it in the newer mags.

AragornElessar86
10-03-2011, 11:05 AM
The Rugers will be cheap, reliable, and adequately accurate. Triggers are long and they look like bricks. Nice ergonomics for me though.

bsg
10-03-2011, 11:23 AM
What you play around with on the range and what you fall back to under stress tends are two different scenarios. If your brain is conditioned to do something unconsciously (and therefore much faster than having to do it consciously) bad things happen when the firearm in your hand doesn't work the way you trained, worse, if the lever you just mashed was a decocker or a slide stop instead of the safety.

If you choose a non 1911 firearm at this point and hope to use it for defense, it's going to take many hundreds if not thousands of rounds to recondition the brain to the operation of the new handgun. A "cheap" gun plus the ammo required to overcome instincts might not be so cheap all told. What's the going rate for 1500 rounds of .45 hardball to familiarize? Looks to be about $400 for a really good deal, about $500+ with shipping at a more typical, less stellar rate.

A 1911 clone will keep you out of trouble, you already know how to use it, a couple boxes of ammo to make sure it all works properly and into the pack or vehicle it can go.

R


+1. agreed.

someR1
10-03-2011, 1:08 PM
RIA 1911 @ buds ! under $400!

Lead Waster
10-03-2011, 1:22 PM
CZ-97 (used) or RIA Tactical 1911.

I think step one is to get over your attachment to 1911's as your pets. They're just lumps of metal. And replacement cost is like $500 for an identical model, not like a dog or friend. YOu can replace them with exact replicas.

stormy_clothing
10-03-2011, 4:36 PM
http://www.theprepared.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=90

Glock_fanboy
10-03-2011, 5:03 PM
I understand there are handguns out there just as awesome as glocks... to some people at least... but with a glock, you don't have to worry about manipulating the gun. You can just point and shoot. That was directed more towards the whole working with a different setup discussion up top ^^^.

Buy a Glock 21. Shoot the Glock 21. Enjoy the Glock 21. Glock 21 FTW. EZ choice.

orangeusa
10-03-2011, 5:05 PM
Noob Glock_Fanboy has spoken. End of thread. hahaha

watsonville
10-03-2011, 5:08 PM
i agree ria or glock 21

casting kid
10-03-2011, 5:12 PM
Another vote for RIA...

sounish
10-31-2011, 9:25 AM
My Taurus Millenium PT145 was inexpensive and has been a great shooter. With the laser it has a great HD presence as well.
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i348/psullyvan/PT145_2.jpg
http://i1089.photobucket.com/albums/i348/psullyvan/PT145_5.jpg

Sturnovik
10-31-2011, 9:30 AM
Some of you may have seen my post a few weeks back about a couple of my guns getting stolen out of my truck. Now, I'm in the process of trying to find a replacement for one of my beloved, expensive 1911s that was taken. I need a pistol that will live in my truck/backpack that goes everywhere with me. It will be on my LTC, so no storage/transport issues there. I'm planning on replacing my lost 1911 with another, but I've decided that since this pistol will not be on my person all the time and will have a relatively rough life, I don't want to beat up or risk another "nice" gun. Therefore, I've found myself looking for a pistol that meets these criteria:

1) .45acp (all but one of my other pistols are .45 and I don't want to introduce another caliber into my carry lineup)
2) sub-$500 either new or used
3) non-1911 (I get too attached to them and they magically extract time, money and aftermarket parts from me!)

So far, I've looked at and considered the S&W M&P45, Sig p220 LE trade-in, Springfield XD45 and the Glock 21. Have I overlooked any other obvious choices? Anyone have experience they can share with these models?

Thanks!!!

A 3rd gen smith. A sig if the price is right since you said 500 was the total.

Striker
10-31-2011, 9:39 AM
Some of you may have seen my post a few weeks back about a couple of my guns getting stolen out of my truck. Now, I'm in the process of trying to find a replacement for one of my beloved, expensive 1911s that was taken. I need a pistol that will live in my truck/backpack that goes everywhere with me. It will be on my LTC, so no storage/transport issues there. I'm planning on replacing my lost 1911 with another, but I've decided that since this pistol will not be on my person all the time and will have a relatively rough life, I don't want to beat up or risk another "nice" gun. Therefore, I've found myself looking for a pistol that meets these criteria:

1) .45acp (all but one of my other pistols are .45 and I don't want to introduce another caliber into my carry lineup)
2) sub-$500 either new or used
3) non-1911 (I get too attached to them and they magically extract time, money and aftermarket parts from me!)

So far, I've looked at and considered the S&W M&P45, Sig p220 LE trade-in, Springfield XD45 and the Glock 21. Have I overlooked any other obvious choices? Anyone have experience they can share with these models?

Thanks!!!

M&P .45 with thumb safety and Apex FSS trigger. Won't be under $500.00, but pretty close to what you're use to. Or HK USP Variant 1 I think. You can carry condition 1, but understand that you cannot ride the safety on this gun. I have seen them go for around $650.00 used. Finally, if you like 1911s, why not consider a standard Colt Government model. You can get one lightly used for $700-$800 or so.

chrisf
10-31-2011, 10:53 AM
Some of you may have seen my post a few weeks back about a couple of my guns getting stolen out of my truck. Now, I'm in the process of trying to find a replacement for one of my beloved, expensive 1911s that was taken. I need a pistol that will live in my truck/backpack that goes everywhere with me. It will be on my LTC, so no storage/transport issues there. I'm planning on replacing my lost 1911 with another, but I've decided that since this pistol will not be on my person all the time and will have a relatively rough life, I don't want to beat up or risk another "nice" gun. Therefore, I've found myself looking for a pistol that meets these criteria:

1) .45acp (all but one of my other pistols are .45 and I don't want to introduce another caliber into my carry lineup)
2) sub-$500 either new or used
3) non-1911 (I get too attached to them and they magically extract time, money and aftermarket parts from me!)


So far, I've looked at and considered the S&W M&P45, Sig p220 LE trade-in, Springfield XD45 and the Glock 21. Have I overlooked any other obvious choices? Anyone have experience they can share with these models?

Thanks!!!
If thats what you consider "cheap" I need to get on your level lol. Cheap to me is a hi-point.

Mister.E
10-31-2011, 1:53 PM
M&P 45. I've seen them on sale for $499 new. Mine was $519 new, OTD price was just under $600. It's cheap, accurate, reliable, and as ergonomic of a gun I've ever held. Glad I went with this over the G21 and P220, though I do love them as well.

loose_electron
10-31-2011, 2:01 PM
Get another 1911, thats what you like and are used to.
As for the emotional attachment and depression thing?
Talk it over with a shrink.

esartori
10-31-2011, 2:37 PM
If it is a beater, I say glock 21/RIA tactical. Both will serve u well.

ILVSMOG
10-31-2011, 7:37 PM
Thanks to everyone for the good advice. After shooting and handling a few of the different options, I decided to stick with 1911s. I just picked up a RIA Tactical out of jail yesterday. After tearing it apart, it's nicer than I expected. We'll see how it shoots.

Fishslayer
10-31-2011, 9:13 PM
I don't think yer gonna be unhappy with yer Tactical.

BHPFan
11-01-2011, 4:19 AM
Ruger p90,p97,p345?

+1.

For the money, these are great .45ACP pistols.