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CrossedRifles
09-29-2011, 4:32 PM
On the rare occasion there is a burglary or home invasion, do you think 10 rounds of 9mm would suffice?

All I keep is a loaded 10 rd. mag next to my empty Sig P226.

I'm guessing it's all about shot placement but would 10 Rds. be a risky amount?

Montu
09-29-2011, 4:34 PM
up to you..I keep 2 mags of .45 one 8rd and one 7rd

your probably fine but i say its cheap insurance to add another mag

InGrAM
09-29-2011, 4:35 PM
I would say that two loaded magazines is probably enough. One, I do not think is enough. I also would keep more than one handgun loaded if you have more than one.

Buy another range magazine and keep the two factory ones loaded at all time. Just my advice.

tradecraft
09-29-2011, 4:35 PM
I always have a few handy, for no other reason than "why not?"

RollingCode3
09-29-2011, 4:44 PM
minimum 3 mags for HD and another 5 mags for range/training. 8 total per gun

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/cadetcode3/guns/IMG_1592.jpg

POLICESTATE
09-29-2011, 4:46 PM
One mag is better than none but no it's not enough.

My sig is loaded with 10 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber, in a Gun Vault safe. Also in the safe are two more loaded 10 round magazines.

My main safe has more for that plus other guns all with loaded mags. However many magazines I have for a particular gun they are all loaded to capacity.

XDRoX
09-29-2011, 4:50 PM
I'm comfortable with one. But there's more than ten in it.

IPSICK
09-29-2011, 4:51 PM
One's enough because mags are perfectly reliable and never fail when you absolutely need them. ;)

Cato
09-29-2011, 4:52 PM
Probably.

I like to keep a holster with an extra mag that clips on my belt. That way the first mag is to deal with (or attempt to deal with) the threat. The second would be to provide retreating suppressing fire until I can get to my rifle.

Can't buy anything here
09-29-2011, 4:52 PM
If you have a good grip angle, one should be enough...:)

P220ST
09-29-2011, 4:52 PM
One mag is better than none but no it's not enough.

My sig is loaded with 10 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber, in a Gun Vault safe. Also in the safe are two more loaded 10 round magazines.

My main safe has more for that plus other guns all with loaded mags. However many magazines I have for a particular gun they are all loaded to capacity.

Say you wake up and the a burglar is already inside your bedroom. Will you be able to access your gun safe and loaded guns? I keep an unloaded P220 on my nightstand right next to a mag full of hollow points. I can grab and load the chamber pretty quickly, so I don't feel a need to keep her loaded.

IPSICK
09-29-2011, 4:53 PM
I don't have extra necessarily for more rounds but in the off chance a 'good' mag completely farts it up and I need to drop it and reload with my backups.

XDRoX
09-29-2011, 4:56 PM
One's enough because mags are perfectly reliable and never fail when you absolutely need them. ;)

You need a Glock.

Briancnelson
09-29-2011, 4:56 PM
I keep one in the gun and 2 more loaded. Not so much because I need 30 bullets, but I figure that of 3, if one runs into problems, I still have 2 mags.

berg
09-29-2011, 4:57 PM
An extra Mec Gar 10 rounder is, what, $20? Plus about $5 in ammo. Is spending $25 worth the extra peace of mind?

paul0660
09-29-2011, 4:58 PM
10 rd. mag next to my empty

Leave that one where it is and put another, +1, in the gun. That is how they were built to run. Whatever safety you achieve by not having your gun loaded is defeated by having the loaded mag nearby. If your 226 is SA/DA, keeping it loading in DA is not a safety issue, and if it is DAO, certainly not an issue.

It is a tool. You don't assemble a hammer when it is time to NAIL something.

XDRoX
09-29-2011, 4:59 PM
I think the better question here is why do you have a full clip next to an empty gun. Stick it in and then put one in the chamber.

That's right I said clip, what you gunna do?

nrakid88
09-29-2011, 4:59 PM
I keep my Glock with 6 magazines.

I feel pretty darn safe with it.

I would prefer to have a Glock with a suppressor, and 6 33 round magazines... but hey, I live in Liberal paradise.

IPSICK
09-29-2011, 5:02 PM
You need a Glock.

I have a Glock and sadly enough, I still never believe any gun is 100% reliable. I will take my chances on 99.99999%

paul0660
09-29-2011, 5:02 PM
I think the better question here is why do you have a full clip next to an empty gun. Stick it in and then put one in the chamber.

That's right I said clip, what you gunna do?

LOL he said..............never mind.

Zartan
09-29-2011, 5:03 PM
Full magazine, chamber empty...hmmm, maybe I should rack it

canative
09-29-2011, 5:06 PM
I keep my S&W 9mm near me in my gun vault loaded with one in the pipe at all times. With an extra mag next to it. 2-15 round mags. My Glock 22 is in the big safe with 4-15 round mags. Both handguns are pre-ban and came with the hi-cap mags.

POLICESTATE
09-29-2011, 5:12 PM
Say you wake up and the a burglar is already inside your bedroom. Will you be able to access your gun safe and loaded guns? I keep an unloaded P220 on my nightstand right next to a mag full of hollow points. I can grab and load the chamber pretty quickly, so I don't feel a need to keep her loaded.

Got kids, not an option. Before I had kids I used to keep the sig next to the bed. All I would have to do is point and shoot.

Well once the kids grow up and move out of the house then I'll be more ready than I am now.

Except I sleep like the dead; but I tend to wake up instantly if there is a strange noise at night.

shooterfpga
09-29-2011, 5:12 PM
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/1939/imag0280w.jpg

this is how i keep my HD handgun loadout, its never less than this at all times.

Turo
09-29-2011, 5:16 PM
If I'm not carrying my Glock 27 at the time, it's got a 15 round mag in it, with a couple other mags nearby. If I'm carrying it, it has the factory 9 + 1 in it with the 15 round reload on me as well. I figure if someone can take 25 rounds of .40 and keep coming, it's time to grab the shotgun.

bsg
09-29-2011, 5:20 PM
i keep a few extra magazines available for immediate use.

Norsemen308
09-29-2011, 5:21 PM
fact is if u need more then 2 mags, this wasnt a break in... this was an assassination attempt...

if a burglar doesnt turn around at the first shot, you got bigger problems on your hands.

OC-Indian
09-29-2011, 5:23 PM
An unloaded sidearm is a club. And anyone who has ever done any pressure training has had to drop a mag and reload a different one for any number of reasons. One is none

P220ST
09-29-2011, 5:26 PM
Got kids, not an option. Before I had kids I used to keep the sig next to the bed. All I would have to do is point and shoot.

Well once the kids grow up and move out of the house then I'll be more ready than I am now.

Except I sleep like the dead; but I tend to wake up instantly if there is a strange noise at night.

Totally understand why you would keep it in a safe due to the kids, but don't you think it kind of defeats the purpose of keeping it in a safe if it's for HD? If I were you, I might just keep it in the safe during the day and keep it next to the bed at night as well as have the bedroom door locked so the kids cant have access to it.

Oceanbob
09-29-2011, 5:46 PM
Glock 20 with nite sites, loaded, 15 round with 175 Grain Silvertips, one body bag in the closet, bleach in the laundry room, plenty of rags, a shovel and a shop creeper for transport out to the trunk. :43: A printed MapQuest to the High Desert.......



I don't call 9-1-1




Be well, Bob ;)

ChaneRZ
09-29-2011, 5:55 PM
4 mags loaded for my G27

sequoia_nomad
09-29-2011, 5:57 PM
Glock 20 with nite sites, loaded, 15 round with 175 Grain Silvertips, one body bag in the closet, bleach in the laundry room, plenty of rags, a shovel and a shop creeper for transport out to the trunk. :43: A printed MapQuest to the High Desert.......



I don't call 9-1-1




Be well, Bob ;)

Don't forget a change of clothing, coveralls are ideal. You will also want some non-descript footwear that you can dispose of, some cheap rubber boots from Walmart will suffice.

five.five-six
09-29-2011, 5:57 PM
beta-C

a1c
09-29-2011, 5:58 PM
In all the cases I've ever heard of, one mag was more than enough. Most of those cases only involve one or two shots, three max.

Truth is, if you are worrying about a home invasion, before putting another mag in your nightstand drawer, you should invest in a home alarm system, and upgrade your locks.

tbc
09-29-2011, 6:25 PM
It is better to have it even if you don't need it than you need it but you don't have.

Bug Splat
09-29-2011, 6:29 PM
Glock 17 with 3x 17rd mags and 1x 33rd mag all with 147gr Gold-dot.

84 rounds should be enough I hope :D

G60
09-29-2011, 6:33 PM
Probably. but mags are only $25, and it's better to be safe than sorry.

junkit_boy
09-29-2011, 6:39 PM
If you haven't done what you needed to do in the first 6 shots then an extra magazine isnt going to matter. Get a pump shotgun. That sound alone will scare off anyone so you don't need to shoot a single round.

Foriegn power
09-29-2011, 6:40 PM
Shooterfgpa, where'd you get those cool grips at?

ON the mag question one is enough.

Cole125
09-29-2011, 6:41 PM
Glock 20 with nite sites, loaded, 15 round with 175 Grain Silvertips, one body bag in the closet, bleach in the laundry room, plenty of rags, a shovel and a shop creeper for transport out to the trunk. :43: A printed MapQuest to the High Desert.......



I don't call 9-1-1




Be well, Bob ;)

Hahaha!!! :cool:

I keep my Glock 19 with Streamlight TLR2, 10 round magazine in, one in the chamber, and two spare magazines within reach at night.

To answer your question, **** no, one magazine is not enough! You should also at least store your gun with the magazine in. The last thing you want to be doing when some gangbanger is breaking into your house is trying to find your magazine to put in your gun!

PRCABR4Christ
09-29-2011, 6:53 PM
1 mag should be more than enough....unless Mr. Murphy shows his ugly face and makes the first mag malfunction...it's always a good idea to have too may mags :)

10rounds
09-29-2011, 7:05 PM
You need a Glock.

Glock replaced either one or two G17 mags when they went bad. This was many years ago.

KillZone45
09-29-2011, 7:09 PM
Currently I keep my XD45 with a loaded mag in the gun but not in the chamber. I had an incident happen about 2 years ago that kinda freaked me. I also keep 3 mags loaded in the case. When I get my Sig out of "jail" I am thinking of either getting a soft sided gun bag for it or a small safe that opens off your fingerprints, I think they are called Biometric safes. Im thinking Ill go that route and then later on get a bag for the range.

zfields
09-29-2011, 7:10 PM
minimum 3 mags for HD and another 5 mags for range/training. 8 total per gun



Im with Rollin' on this one, especially if you are running 10 round mags.


I keep 10+1 in the nightstand, and 2 loaded mags in the dresser, Just because the girl *****es that there is no room for the remote in the nightstand otherwise.

bigmark408
09-29-2011, 7:10 PM
So at 3am when you wake up out of a dead sleep in your boxers where do you keep the extra mag? .... hanging from your neck on 550 cord.

Exile Machine
09-29-2011, 7:10 PM
I have tons of loaded mags available for just such an emergency. Also handy when you get a sudden hankerin' to go to the range, you don't have to spend your time loading when you could be shooting.

-Mark

ontmark
09-29-2011, 7:17 PM
At least two magazines needed in HD.
One in pistol and one spare.
It is not the number of rounds.
It is the functionally of the pistol.
If there is a miss feed issue there is no time to analyze the failure.
Strip the magazine from the pistol, forcefully if needed, insert the second magazine, cycle the slide to camber a round and continue the fight if needed.
Feeding on a Semi-Auto pistol is so important to its function.

shamu415
09-29-2011, 7:18 PM
2 is 1, 1 is none. Best to have 3 mags for each handgun, especially for HD. A weapon light would help too, but thats another debate. It doesn't hurt to have more than 1 mag, maybe just the wallet..

zfields
09-29-2011, 7:22 PM
So at 3am when you wake up out of a dead sleep in your boxers where do you keep the extra mag? .... hanging from your neck on 550 cord.

I keep a paddle style mag holster....granted it just about pulls my boxers down, but I just think of it as a distraction.

operator13
09-29-2011, 7:27 PM
TWO IS ONE, ONE IS NONE

five.five-six
09-29-2011, 7:40 PM
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Oceanbob
09-29-2011, 7:45 PM
I like the way you think..! :43:


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zfields
09-29-2011, 7:49 PM
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Why only shoot through your neighbors wall 10 times, when you can do it 100?

stix213
09-29-2011, 7:51 PM
One mag for your gun is plenty.

Just make sure you got two guns :p

Dark Mod
09-29-2011, 7:59 PM
1 is more than enough provided you have your house properly secured. You need at least 1 claymore facing each door, and if you dont have bulletproof windows, you should probably think about a claymore on each window as well.

I found its best to place the claymores 10 feet or so away from the door on the inside of the house, facing slightly upward. If you have it rigged properly it will slow down anyone trying to get in, and also makes a nice alarm so you can get up and put those 10 rounds of yours to good use

Uhhlexxxis
09-29-2011, 8:01 PM
I keep my Glock 19 w/ 15 rd mag (and TLR1) near the bed. If I can't hit stuff with the first 16 rounds I'm pretty dead.

223556
09-29-2011, 8:04 PM
I say minimum 4 mags per handgun. 3 for use fully loaded. 4th as a spare if 1 mag fails.

UserM4
09-29-2011, 8:06 PM
If you're taking cover and exchanging doubles and triples, you're gonna feel really demoralized knowing that you've already fired 3 bursts and you've only got 1 or 2 rounds left. There is a chance that the bad guy could've cornered himself in your house. Hopefully you have the opportunity to escape and call the police... or have an extra magazine.

Woo
09-29-2011, 8:07 PM
2 is 1, 1 is none. Best to have 3 mags for each handgun, especially for HD. A weapon light would help too, but thats another debate. It doesn't hurt to have more than 1 mag, maybe just the wallet..


+1 on the light. Weapon light or handheld, doesn't matter-I feel a good tactical illuminator is almost as necessary as a good quality magazine, especially for home defense.

shooterfpga
09-29-2011, 8:22 PM
Shooterfgpa, where'd you get those cool grips at?

ON the mag question one is enough.

they were custom made for me from a guy in georgia.

http://sgmgrips.com

pontiacpratt
09-29-2011, 9:06 PM
The handgun is only ready to get to the 590

paul0660
09-29-2011, 9:11 PM
I keep my Glock 19 w/ 15 rd mag (and TLR1) near the bed. If I can't hit stuff with the first 16 rounds I'm pretty dead.

And, your last living thought will be, I wish I had more bullets.

morfeeis
09-29-2011, 9:12 PM
I have four loaded mags on my side mama has 4 loaded mags on her side, i think one mag is fine as long as it's one of these
http://shop.gunsfishing.com/Assets/ProductImages/PROBRAA1.jpg

ERdept
09-29-2011, 9:27 PM
Civilian self defense statistics mirror police shoot stats.

Within 5 yards, ending in 2-3 shots.

locosway
09-29-2011, 9:34 PM
On the rare occasion there is a burglary or home invasion, do you think 10 rounds of 9mm would suffice?

All I keep is a loaded 10 rd. mag next to my empty Sig P226.

I'm guessing it's all about shot placement but would 10 Rds. be a risky amount?

10 rounds should be more than enough for one person, however... What if the mag fails? What if there's more than one person?

With how cheap mags are, I see no reason why someone shouldn't have two or more ready.

My wife has a G19 and I have a G17. She has two mags, and I have two mags. There's also a third mag stashed in the living room, a 33rd mag just in case.

Yeah, we'll likely never need any of it, but it's nice to know it's there.

UserM4
09-29-2011, 9:45 PM
Civilian self defense statistics mirror police shoot stats.

Within 5 yards, ending in 2-3 shots.

Thx! I'm gonna remove 7rds from my mag. What was I thinking!?

epcii
09-29-2011, 9:50 PM
It's only enough if you don't want to be prepared for zombies. Or vampires.

paul0660
09-29-2011, 9:55 PM
Civilian self defense statistics mirror police shoot stats.

Within 5 yards, ending in 2-3 shots.

I was surprised to not see a link reflecting this.


I really don't know but I am swayed by the many vids of lawmen emptying their guns and hitting nothing.

luckygunner
09-29-2011, 10:18 PM
It's not that I don't think that 10 rounds of 9mm would be enough. The situation would determine that. I would prefer to have extra magazines in case you need more than 10 rounds or you have a magazine failure.

I like to have 5 magazines for a handgun that I'm using for self defense. It was only in training but I had 2 magazines fail on me in the military. That made an impact on me I think.

whipkiller
09-29-2011, 10:21 PM
Glock 20 with nite sites, loaded, 15 round with 175 Grain Silvertips, one body bag in the closet, bleach in the laundry room, plenty of rags, a shovel and a shop creeper for transport out to the trunk. :43: A printed MapQuest to the High Desert.......



I don't call 9-1-1




Be well, Bob ;)


Which begs the question... Is one body bag enough for HD?

What if there's two intruders?

I would hope that one mag would either stop the threat, or get me to the shotgun.

zfields
09-29-2011, 10:40 PM
Which begs the question... Is one body bag enough for HD?

What if there's two intruders?

I would hope that one mag would either stop the threat, or get me to the shotgun.

Sawzall and garbage bags.

Problem solved.

LDSGJimbo
09-29-2011, 11:48 PM
Not enough with our repressive 10rd limit. Better have two.

Plus, if u fire off a few shots and then retreat you can easily reload with the full mag.

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mister0523
09-29-2011, 11:56 PM
Here's how I look at it. My XD came with two mags. Springfield deemed it necessary for me to have more and was kind enough to give me 3 more. So that must mean five mags is the magic number for HD right?

mossy
09-30-2011, 12:39 AM
for your primary HD gun i would go with 2 mags for backup guns 1 is fine
glock 17 - 2 loaded mags one 10 rounder in the gun one 10 rounder off to the side (bedside gun)

bersa 380- 1 loaded mag in the gun (this gun is only for CCW'ing around the house when the ghetto neighbors have ghetto party's full of ghetto people)

Fishslayer
09-30-2011, 12:49 AM
On the rare occasion there is a burglary or home invasion, do you think 10 rounds of 9mm would suffice?


No way. What about zombies?:eek:

Squidward
09-30-2011, 12:32 PM
What this guy says:

http://youtu.be/Ly_7RF0oJsk

tacticalcity
09-30-2011, 12:36 PM
Probably will be, but it is a good idea to plan and prepare for the worst case scenerio. I would keep more loaded up and ready to go.

When did Noah build the arc? Before rain, son. Before the rain.

Akers
09-30-2011, 12:38 PM
I'd say one is more than ample, if you have one for each one of your 4 guns next to the bed.

Wife's side has an XD with 2 x 10 and my side has a Glock 27 with 2 x 16, with 52 rounds, one is bound to hit.

tacticalcity
09-30-2011, 12:41 PM
Why only shoot through your neighbors wall 10 times, when you can do it 100?

I don't know about your house but there is nothing in the walls of my apartment but dry wall, insulation and very spartan 2x4's and pipes. No matter what ammo I use there is no way in heck the wall is going to stop it. I would submit the same is likely true for you as well. Unless you live in a solid brick house or live miles away from your nearest neighbor. Opting for less than effective ammo when it will rip right through the wall just like the more effective ammo doesn't make a lot of sense. Not when you look at it from a realistic standpoint. It just makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside because if by some miracle you hit the 2x4 or pipe it MIGHT stop.

zfields
09-30-2011, 12:49 PM
I don't know about your house but there is nothing in the walls of my apartment but dry wall, insulation and very spartan 2x4's and pipes. No matter what ammo I use there is no way in heck the wall is going to stop it. I would submit the same is likely true for you as well. Unless you live in a solid brick house or live miles away from your nearest neighbor. Opting for less than effective ammo when it will rip right through the wall just like the more effective ammo doesn't make a lot of sense. Not when you look at it from a realistic standpoint. It just makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside because if by some miracle you hit the 2x4 or pipe it MIGHT stop.

You really need to stop trying to correct sarcasm. No one here thinks you are an expert by any means.

chrisf
09-30-2011, 12:54 PM
You need a Glock.

Look at my signature, Do you see what I mean? But as reference one mag is enough 1 bullet should be enough BUT theres always that chance your mag may fail, So 2 is the least I have or would have. I keep a ar-15 by my nightstand and a ruger p95 on my nightstand (I have no kids)

Barbarossa
09-30-2011, 1:32 PM
Anyone keep a round of ball ammo as #1?

I've heard the round nose makes for easier feeding.

Eg. Slide snags on something while closing.

Also if your going to have an ND it's likely to be that round, or the next. Maybe Glock leg wouldn't be as bad as with a JHP.

Just a rambling thought....

I keep 2 mags of JHP.

One in the gun with the slide locked open, in the gun vault.

dshooter
09-30-2011, 2:01 PM
Remember, you're going to have to defend your actions of emptying a mag when it comes to court. 10 shots in a BG will look really bad. Or 1 shot in BG and 9 in the walls and
appliances mean costly home improvement repairs.

Psychologically speaking, if a BG had a gun, it be better to rob a 7-11 or someone in the street. Easy money and fast. Burglary is more for BG's who don't have a weapon. I'm just saying.

But I've got 2 guns loaded, not racked and extra mags for each.

morfeeis
09-30-2011, 2:36 PM
What this guy says:

http://youtu.be/Ly_7RF0oJsk
" i squirt the white stuff in his face and then beat the crap out of him with the can"

wow.

CrossedRifles
09-30-2011, 2:45 PM
Thanks everyone for your 2 cents.

For some reason when the guy in the video talks, I think of it a one huge run-on sentence.

It's like he's holding his breath all the way through and trying to say everything so he can breath.

lololol

Lead Waster
09-30-2011, 2:47 PM
Like they say, it's better to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.

Lead Waster
09-30-2011, 2:52 PM
Thanks everyone for your 2 cents.

For some reason when the guy in the video talks, I think of it a one huge run-on sentence.

It's like he's holding his breath all the way through and trying to say everything so he can breath.

lololol

LOL! No kidding .... breathe dude!

P220ST
09-30-2011, 2:53 PM
Semi Off topic: Even when I'm at the range with earplugs in, the sound from my handgun is pretty loud. I'm wondering how badly my ears would be ringing if I had to use my firearm inside my house with no earplugs. Would I be inadvertently "stunning" myself?

Kosuki
09-30-2011, 3:38 PM
Always Double up. In this case "Double Trouble" fits just right. With out double you could be in trouble.

junkit_boy
09-30-2011, 3:45 PM
Try explaining to the prosecutor why you needed to unload 45+ rounds for a "last resort" method.. sounds like jail time to me

Gryff
09-30-2011, 4:16 PM
I have multiple mags for my HD gun. Not because I anticipate the need to reload, but because I want a spare in case I have a mag-related malfunction.

mif_slim
09-30-2011, 6:56 PM
Yeah, but why when you can have more?

tacticalcity
09-30-2011, 8:04 PM
Try explaining to the prosecutor why you needed to unload 45+ rounds for a "last resort" method.. sounds like jail time to me

Wrong mindset. You don't want to keep extra magazines on hand because you are worried about what a prosecutor will say in court? You definately were NOT a boy scout.

Who says it will be one guy? Most home invasions are done by gangs in groups and they come armed.

A couple years ago a duo of gang bangers in Oakland went house to house killing people while being chased by cops. That was just two guys. Imagine what more could have done.

It can and does happen. Let your lawyer worry about the DA and the civil attorney. You just worry about staying alive.

CC Gunsmithing
09-30-2011, 8:33 PM
Better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it...

evidens83
09-30-2011, 8:41 PM
I keep one mag loaded for HD....per handgun :D Plus a tube of 00 buck...

LDSGJimbo
10-02-2011, 2:52 PM
I don't know about your house but there is nothing in the walls of my apartment but dry wall, insulation and very spartan 2x4's and pipes. No matter what ammo I use there is no way in heck the wall is going to stop it. I would submit the same is likely true for you as well. Unless you live in a solid brick house or live miles away from your nearest neighbor. Opting for less than effective ammo when it will rip right through the wall just like the more effective ammo doesn't make a lot of sense. Not when you look at it from a realistic standpoint. It just makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside because if by some miracle you hit the 2x4 or pipe it MIGHT stop.

Good advice, point taken.

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