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CGK60
09-27-2011, 6:42 PM
I'm thinking of getting a 357 snubnose. Been looking at the taurus 605, S&W model 60 and ruger SP101, any one have any recomendations.

sk8804
09-27-2011, 6:43 PM
either ruger or s&w.

Dark Mod
09-27-2011, 6:46 PM
Smith

BigBronco
09-27-2011, 6:49 PM
Double that Smith!!

Cokebottle
09-27-2011, 7:06 PM
Ditto.

Can't beat the trigger on the Smith, but for the price, I went SP101

mayo 111
09-27-2011, 7:22 PM
go with the smith. not only is it a nice revolver, but i think smith and wesson makes sexiest revolvers.

Rob454
09-27-2011, 7:27 PM
My wife has a Taurus 605 SS snub nose revolver. its actually a great gun. Only thing thats not so good if you have big gorilla hands but i got a aftermarket Hogue grips that were a little bigger than the factory grips so its better.Trigger was a little stiff at first but it worked itself out. For the price its actually a very good gun. And truthfully its pretty accurate for a snubnose. its a lot more accurate than I though tit woudl be even at 15-20 yards I looked at this Armscor 38 snub nose. Total POS. The action locked up on me while I was taking delivery at the store. I refused to pick it up and ended up getting the Taurus.
Lots of people knock Taurus but every one I had were trouble free revolvers. I don't know anything about their semi autos.

Oceanbob
09-27-2011, 7:30 PM
I own a smith and a ruger. Ruger takes more abuse without tuning.

Smith is a great weapon; but if I were going to the mountains for the day, the Ruger SP101 goes with me.

I cannot recommend other brands. At all. Ever.

fastpowerstroker
09-27-2011, 7:33 PM
Sp101 is great. Fun and heavy enough to tame the recoil

jdg30
09-27-2011, 7:42 PM
I'm thinking of getting a 357 snubnose. Been looking at the taurus 605, S&W model 60 and ruger SP101, any one have any recomendations.

If you want the nicest shooting .357 snub I would get a S&W 686+ 2.5" barrel. I got one and it shoots better than all my smaller snub revolvers. It soaks up most of the recoil from the heavy frame and is very easy to shoot.

I also have a Ruger SP101 and S&W centennial 640. Both are very good shooters but not as pleasant to shoot .357 magnum out of. .38 special or .38+P are no problem but shooting magnums out of them isn't as fun as with the 686+.

I also have a S&W 340PD .357 and I really don't shoot it very much. At first I was in to the light weight and easy concealability but actually shooting it isn't much fun. With .357 it is really not fun to shoot at all. The blast and recoil of .357 through the lightweight revolver isn't enjoyable for me.

On the other hand, the 686 is a great gun to shoot .357 out of and I almost prefer it to .38 because the .38 rounds feel almost like a .22 and I like the higher velocity of the .357.

If it was me I would never get a Taurus. I've never owned one, never will and have never liked them. That's just my personal opinion but I think they are junk. Some people may like theirs and that's ok, but for me I would rather spend a little more and have peace of mind about function then save a few bucks and settle for less.

If you want a good all around gun that is great for concealed carry, target practice and general plinking, the SP101 is hard to beat. They are very good guns.

jermedic
09-27-2011, 7:59 PM
I picked up a new 605 about a year ago. For me it was as accurate as my S&W model 37, had a great trigger and the bluing on it was great quality. I didn't shoot it much and it has about 100 rounds of 38 and less than 20 rounds of 357 thru it. Last trip to the range it locked up on me and the cylinder wouldn't rotate and I could not get the cylinder open either. I ended up having to take it apart to get the 2 live rounds out of it and plan to send it back for repair this week. I think I will keep it, but it is going to be a range toy since I cant trust it. Now my 37 on the other hand is 28 years old and I bought it used last year. I have never had a single issue with it and it is well used. Whoever owned it before me obviously carried it since it had a good amount of holster wear on it. Even tho the gun is almost as old as me, I trust it 100% and sometimes carry it as a primary gun or as a backup to my Glock 36.

jimmykan
09-27-2011, 8:34 PM
Are you accustomed to shooting 357 in short barreled revolvers? The recoil is mean and the blast is crazy.

At the range it's only fun for the first few rounds, then it gets old.

I had a Ruger SP101. The trigger was heavy, and I only had it for a couple months. I noticed that the barrel was over-screwed into the frame, and the front sight was canted as a result.

Also, I wished it were a 6-shot.

For conceal carry, I think the all-steel SP101 is too heavy. I would imagine the all-steel S&W 60 and 640 are also pretty heavy.

If for carry, Ruger makes the LCR in 357, and S&W makes the 340 in 357 as well. I would imagine EVERYONE to the back, front, and sides gets a kick out of shooting those.

If it's just for shooting at the range, I think medium frame revolvers with 4-6" barrels are a better choice. S&W K and L frames with their flat hammer springs have really nice triggers.

scarville
09-27-2011, 8:34 PM
This is one time I think the Ruger comes out a little ahead in overall value. But only a little.

I will not at this time recommend a Taurus for "serious" work. There is some evidence they are improving their quality but I still don't think they are are reliable enough for an SD gun.

Bigtwin
09-27-2011, 8:44 PM
If it was me I would never get a Taurus. I've never owned one, never will and have never liked them. That's just my personal opinion but I think they are junk. Some people may like theirs and that's ok, but for me I would rather spend a little more and have peace of mind about function then save a few bucks and settle for less.

I love posts like this...it is like a child that refuses to eat his food though he has never tried it. "I don't like that" says the child, I say "Have you tried it?"...child responds "No...but I don't like that food"...I say "How would you know if you have not tried it?" Child responds "It's yucky"....

You get my point!?

I HAVE had very good expierence with my Taurus revolvers. I would recommend them .

XDRoX
09-27-2011, 8:47 PM
Get the Model 60 and then throw an even smaller grip on it :43:

http://members.cox.net/chrismosteller/S&W.jpg

Jasonaspears
09-27-2011, 8:52 PM
I love my SP101. Great weight and the balance is nice. Put on a Hogue and you're good to go

Jn316
09-27-2011, 8:58 PM
If you want a good all around gun that is great for concealed carry, target practice and general plinking, the SP101 is hard to beat. They are very good guns.[/QUOTE]

+1 on the Ruger I enjoy mine very much spent some time doing a trigger job thanks to Iowegan’s Book of Knowledge for the Ruger like as much as S&W snub nose

Paradiddle
09-27-2011, 9:00 PM
Smith will have the best trigger and the highest resale value. Get a used pre-lock.

Jeff

ckprax
09-27-2011, 10:48 PM
I would pass on the taurus too many quality issues for my liking.

I have a 2.25" SP101 DAO and it is a great little gun. Shooting .38+P is a lot of fun, .357Mag can be a handful depending on the load. It may be a little on the heavy side but that is what makes it a great shooter. With a good carry rig, the weight should be a non issue. The trigger on mine was terrible at first, I polished it up and it's much better now. If you get one, PM me and I will send you instructions for a DIY trigger job.

The 60 is a great choice but shooting.357Mag may be punishing. Ideally I get a model 19 or 66, they will have a little more weight and about the same size as the SP101. A 686 would also be a good choice albeit a bit larger.

jessegpresley
09-27-2011, 11:26 PM
I love posts like this...it is like a child that refuses to eat his food though he has never tried it. "I don't like that" says the child, I say "Have you tried it?"...child responds "No...but I don't like that food"...I say "How would you know if you have not tried it?" Child responds "It's yucky"....

You get my point!?


I don't have to taste dirt to know i don't want to eat it. I don't have to drive a Daewoo to know I don't want to own one. I don't have to visit Somalia to know I wouldn't like it there.

A Smith & Wesson 686+ 2.5" would be great for someone wanting a snub nosed .357.

CGK60
09-28-2011, 5:53 AM
Long ago I used to own a Taurus model 689 6 in barrel and it ran great, I guess taurus has went down in quality lately. I've carried a full size 1911, so going to a ruger SP-101 would be a lighter option. I like the price of the ruger over the Smith.

RedFord150
09-28-2011, 8:58 AM
Can't go wrong with a Smith or a Ruger wheel gun. If price is an issue, go with the Ruger.

^^^^^ This.

I have owned a Taurus. It is the only revolver that ever failed on me. After Taurus fixed it, I sold it. Will never own another.
My safe currently holds 3 Ruger Revolvers and 1 Colt Revolver. I have sold at least 3 other Rugers over the years. I have never had a problem with Colt or Ruger.
I have fired more S&W Revolvers than I can count. No failures at all.
Good luck.

21SF
09-28-2011, 9:04 AM
RUGER !!!!!!!!!! for a hot load loving nympho tank.

S&W for the cool aid and finish.

movie zombie
09-28-2011, 9:08 AM
i have a smith 60 and smith 19 snubbed.....you can't go wrong.

billybob_jcv
09-28-2011, 10:32 AM
There is no way anyone will every get agreement from any group of shooters on ruger vs s&w revolvers. Thank gawd both exist - I think we're the winners because of it!

Biigg50
09-29-2011, 1:30 PM
I love my Ruger LCR 357!

Iskra
09-29-2011, 1:59 PM
The frames have slightly different angles to the grip. I'd recommend you find someplace where you can pick them up and aim them. I really wanted an S&W but when I tried to aim it instinctively, between the size of my hands, my natural wrist angle, and the frame of the gun, I always had to adjust my aim a little bit. I then picked up the SP101 and it aimed itself very naturally for my hands & wrist. No adjustment in wrist angle or grip needed. You can't buy a gun on brand name or someone else's recommendation and assume its the best one for you.

Bigtwin
09-29-2011, 8:26 PM
I don't have to taste dirt to know i don't want to eat it. I don't have to drive a Daewoo to know I don't want to own one. I don't have to visit Somalia to know I wouldn't like it there.

A Smith & Wesson 686+ 2.5" would be great for someone wanting a snub nosed .357.

Oh, you forgot, You don't have to get cancer to know it is bad!
Those comments aren't very relevent though now are they. We are talking about brands and products. I am not trying to change anybodys mind, just putting a point to the unwarented bashing of a brand, you likely(from your post) know zip about.
You are welcome to contact me and shoot my Taurus revolvers and really develop an opinion or you could keep bashing a brand you have no real expierence about on the internet.
If I am mistaken on the expierence you have(IE you had problems with ones you owned), It would be a better service to readers that you tell the story as to why!

The S&W and Ruger pistols are fine guns I would not dispute that. But I have had no problems with my Taurus revolvers. One has had 1500 rounds and another 4000 rounds with out problems.
Maybe I just got lucky!

orangeusa
09-29-2011, 8:50 PM
There is no way anyone will every get agreement from any group of shooters on ruger vs s&w revolvers. Thank gawd both exist - I think we're the winners because of it!

Agreed. But what about the Colts? Sad that they used to be king, and gave it away.... :)

(Stupid Pythons are so overpriced.. flame on)....

.

BayouBullets
09-30-2011, 4:33 PM
I saw a comment about sp101 being more durable than the smiths. I have to agree. The Ruger frame is a tougher design. Might I suggest looking for a used Security Six? Ruger hasn't made them since the late 80's, but they built them like anvils. They have 6 shots instead of five, better trigger than the sp101, good full-size combat sights, and the snub version had a 2 3/4" barrel instead of the sp101's 2 1/4" barrel. I still see them for sale on GB regularly.

RedFord150
09-30-2011, 11:42 PM
...The Ruger frame is a tougher design. Might I suggest looking for a used Security Six? ....

Great suggestion. Also, keep in mind that the Speed Six and Police Service Six are same frame as Security Six, but fixed sights.
I have owned a 2 3/4" Speed Six for over 20 years and still love it.

jessegpresley
10-01-2011, 1:58 AM
I saw a comment about sp101 being more durable than the smiths. I have to agree. The Ruger frame is a tougher design.

Let's say for the sake of argument it is tougher. Who is wearing out their S&Ws?


unwarented bashing of a brand, you likely(from your post) know zip about.
You are welcome to contact me and shoot my Taurus revolvers and really develop an opinion or you could keep bashing a brand you have no real expierence about on the internet.

Yep,don't know anything about Taurus, or Hi-Point, Charter, Bersa, etc.

chim-chim7
10-01-2011, 3:27 AM
Those are all good choices, I can only recommend the one that feels best in your hand. Never buy a gun because someone else here recommended it. Rule #1, make your own decision by feel, and if possible to rent, do that as well. Asking which gun you should get is a personal choice.

21SF
10-01-2011, 7:51 AM
Agreed. But what about the Colts? Sad that they used to be king, and gave it away.... :)

(Stupid Pythons are so overpriced.. flame on)....

.

They have to many cowboy style guns.

Let's say for the sake of argument it is tougher. Who is wearing out their S&Ws?




Yep,don't know anything about Taurus, or Hi-Point, Charter, Bersa, etc.

Not many, they get baby'd.

But I dare you to put my 300gr xtp load in one.

Thats why there are "RUGER ONLY LOADS"

den888
10-01-2011, 7:56 AM
Smith, if possible

scarville
10-01-2011, 8:34 AM
Thats why there are "RUGER ONLY LOADS"
The Ruger and TC Contender only loads are for 45 LC not 357.

PRonyan
10-01-2011, 9:12 AM
Sure, if you want a pretty gun to look at get the Smith, but if you want a gun you can use as a sledge hammer get the Ruger.







Just kidding. I love posts about how rugged Rugers are.

ckprax
10-01-2011, 9:21 PM
They have to many cowboy style guns.



Not many, they get baby'd.

But I dare you to put my 300gr xtp load in one.

Thats why there are "RUGER ONLY LOADS"

I am not 100% positive but I think that some of the "Ruger Only" loads are too long to fit in the S&W cylinder, the Ruger is slightly longer. No doubt that Rugers are tanks but S&W are not weak by any means and can take some hott loads.

FUBAR
10-02-2011, 9:31 PM
Ruger SP101 or S&W J frame with a 3 inch barrel is what I recommend. The extra inch makes a big difference when shooting magnum loads. It soaks up some of the recoil and increases velocity. I also like the fact that the 3 inch J frame has adjustable sights and a full length ejector rod. A huge improvement from the gutter sights you get with the other models. Just my opinion.

mlevans66
10-02-2011, 9:39 PM
+1 on the 686 plus. I agree though that shooting magnum rounds are not fun. Shooting reguler 357 and 38s are fine. Get the hogue after marke grip and you'll br great. As for the Ruger I can not comment on but I get a GP100 and it's awsome so I'd assume a SP!101 would be good. Now a Taurus I have no idea about. Good Luck!

watsonville
10-02-2011, 9:54 PM
Smith
Ruger
Taurus

3" or 6". Love the capabilities of the 357/38+p options

junkit_boy
10-03-2011, 2:07 AM
I had a S&W 357 340 stub. It was the the only gun I couldn't wait to sell and regret buying. My shot placement was horrible, the recoil was just unenjoyable. After 15 rounds I put it back in the case and moved on to another gun. It was the most expensive paper weight I ever bought. I rather have a cool sub compact Glock...and that is coming from some one who dislikes Glocks

kuya51
10-03-2011, 10:25 AM
For people that have Rugers: Besides shot capacity and price, is there any difference between the SP101 and GP100?

gorenut
10-03-2011, 10:34 AM
Smith and Ruger, can't go wrong. If this is going to be a gun that'll be thrown around a lot.. get the Ruger. Otherwise get the Smith if money is available.

For people that have Rugers: Besides shot capacity and price, is there any difference between the SP101 and GP100?

Size.

ckprax
10-03-2011, 10:39 AM
For people that have Rugers: Besides shot capacity and price, is there any difference between the SP101 and GP100?

The SP101 has a smaller frame, only comes in stainless, has fixed sights, and 5 round capacity. The GP100 is a large framed revolver with 6 round capacity, comes in both blue and stainless and has adjustable sights. The three inch Gp100 has fixed sights and uses the SP101 grip.

For concealed carry go with the SP101, for open carry and target shooting, step up to the GP100. You should be able to find either used for under $400.

kuya51
10-03-2011, 10:45 AM
Thx for the info. Yeah I noticed that size difference too. I'm getting a blue GP100. I dont conceal carry. I just wanted to see some input between the two.