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ElvenSoul
09-25-2011, 9:22 PM
Anyone know of anyone who has these in the US?

Think I want a 9x39mm Hybrid Rifle/Carbine.

MrPlink
09-25-2011, 9:27 PM
AFAIK never been imported, not to mention ammo would be near impossible to get

Cali-Shooter
09-25-2011, 9:32 PM
I've always wanted an AS VAL, but I think the chances of getting one here in the U.S. is a pipe dream. Not to mention the 9x39 round is nowhere to be found domestically here.

ElvenSoul
09-25-2011, 9:45 PM
Wonder why it was never brought over...the 9x39 ammo.

MrPlink
09-25-2011, 10:05 PM
Wonder why it was never brought over...the 9x39 ammo.

because we dont have anything that shoots that round!

Besides, its kinda pointless if you arent running a suppressor with it.

If we are talking Russian exotics, Id rather have a PP19 Bizon.

Built on an Ak receiver. Blowback operation. Helical mag that holds 64 rounds, and available in 9mm luger among others
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/STJ-3jhMM1I/AAAAAAAAA18/j1GH3rgYs34/s320/Russian+Bizon+PP19+9mm+Helical-Feed+Sub-machinegun.jpg

El Gato
09-25-2011, 10:10 PM
glad to see someone besides me ponders such things.....

and yes it does have a point... big heavy bullet comparatively speaking out of a rifle... maybe penetrates well with a good bullet?

don't know but as a recent convert to the AK platform... not that I've abandoned any other platform mind you... but I think the 9 would be fun...

or maybe a mini AK in the TOK round?
using PPSH mags?

in the meantime...there is the 358 Gremlin... and apparently Horn. makes ammo!

http://www.bfgcartridges.com/358Gremlin.html

http://www.bfgcartridges.com/sitebuilder/images/Magazine_1_-281x240.jpg

Cali-Shooter
09-25-2011, 10:14 PM
because we dont have anything that shoots that round!

Besides, its kinda pointless if you arent running a suppressor with it.

If we are talking Russian exotics, Id rather have a PP19 Bizon.

Built on an Ak receiver. Blowback operation. Helical mag that holds 64 rounds, and available in 9mm luger among others
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_abaJ0xbRju4/STJ-3jhMM1I/AAAAAAAAA18/j1GH3rgYs34/s320/Russian+Bizon+PP19+9mm+Helical-Feed+Sub-machinegun.jpg

There's your 9mm AK right there! :cool:

I bet the production cost is significantly lower than an H&K MP-5 also.

13204u
09-25-2011, 10:53 PM
If you want the 7.62x25 Erie ordnance has done that already.
http://erieordnancedepot.com/eod.asp
http://erieordnancedepot.com/30060901/asp/EODDetail.asp?i=91

It's not cheap.

El Gato
09-25-2011, 10:57 PM
now that's cool...
I wonder if it could be built on a std. AK receiver with their parts...Hmmmmm
like home built etc...or a nodak receiver...std. AK parts.. mag well etc...maybe..

13204u
09-25-2011, 11:09 PM
Well if you are serious they mention a PPSH barrel. Here is the only ones I know of still available in excellent shape. You would need a PPSH parts kit, the listed above bolt, this barrel, a 5.45 krink kit, and a nodak receiver and alot of time to make it work. Again not cheap, but unique.

http://www.k-var.com/shop/product.php?productid=16542&cat=274&page=2

El Gato
09-25-2011, 11:39 PM
got an email in to them....

AK Builder lists a 9mm AK flat...Hmmm...
the thought is intriguing....

the pictures on AR15.com with the 9mm AK using the finn mags is coolness also...
but I have a Colt 9mm in the safe what don't get enough exercise as it is... so She has to get to the range this week now that I'm thinking about it...

13204u
09-25-2011, 11:45 PM
As more initiative to do it. Here are some cheap mags from copes. Just remember to order them as rebuilds.
http://www.copesdistributing.net/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ppsh&x=0&y=0
:43:

ElvenSoul
09-26-2011, 7:40 AM
Not all of the 9x39 is suppressed. They have different ammo for different missions. Why before there where 2 weapons that fired it. Now the AK9 is suppose to replace them both.

Killawhale415
09-26-2011, 8:12 AM
Ive seen some ak kits converted for 9x19 on gunbroker a few times.

Very very hard to come by

timdps
09-26-2011, 8:37 AM
As more initiative to do it. Here are some cheap mags from copes. Just remember to order them as rebuilds.
http://www.copesdistributing.net/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=ppsh&x=0&y=0
:43:


The mags shown in the rifle photos are pps43 mags - not interchangeable with the PPsh41 mags on the Copes page.

tujungatoes
09-26-2011, 8:54 AM
The real issue with the 9mm flats that ak-builder sells is that they're meant to be used with the 2xtm suomi magwell adapter. Last I checked those magwells weren't in production anymore. Also you need to make extensive modifications to the bolt and carrier to adapt them for blowback operation.

wash
09-26-2011, 9:41 AM
Someone needs to figure out a way to make ~Type 79 rifles and pistols for the pistol caliber AK stuff.

http://world.guns.ru/smg/ch/type-79-e.html