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smittty
09-25-2011, 6:35 PM
I'm reading the black rifle threads on a few forums and I'm seeing more and more A2 stocks. Are they back in fashion?

Aside from not being adjustable are there any negatives about them?

Thanks,
Smitty

UserM4
09-25-2011, 6:40 PM
They've never left.

p7m8jg
09-25-2011, 6:44 PM
Most of us don't need an adjustable stock - we're not wearing body armor or needing to shorten the overall rifle length to use in the home (shotgun works too). I've used both. I keep the original stock on my Colt Hbar for long range work and have a newer bullet-button collapsible stock version for home use.

Both have their place.....

frigginchi
09-25-2011, 6:46 PM
I like the carbine look as well as the A2. So I got the entry stock.:)
http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/297544_113772758730233_100002925298985_94592_20060 96082_n.jpg

wash
09-25-2011, 6:47 PM
For a few dollars more, I would rather have an ACE Skeleton stock.

Unless you want to go featureless with a Monsterman grip and then the A2 works out well.

kemikalembalance
09-25-2011, 6:53 PM
style is defined as what ever everyone has to have to look like everyone else. if you think its what makes you shoot better, use it. who cares what is in style, cause ide sport thishttp://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/KittyRifle.jpg

dieselpower
09-25-2011, 7:05 PM
they are heavier and dont adjust for outer gear.

m1a1driver
09-25-2011, 7:07 PM
style and functionality all in 1 package! With the MMG, they just seem to be the perfect stock pair up for me.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5547543005_df7cc27c54_b.jpg

djleisure
09-25-2011, 7:47 PM
As long as it matches your shoes, you're good to go!

tuna quesadilla
09-25-2011, 8:05 PM
Who says they ever went out of style?

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/opensourcelinuxm/AR15A2.jpg

:)

ElvenSoul
09-25-2011, 8:18 PM
Functionality over style! It is for shooting, not the runway!

shark92651
09-25-2011, 8:22 PM
style is defined as what ever everyone has to have to look like everyone else. if you think its what makes you shoot better, use it. who cares what is in style, cause ide sport thishttp://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/KittyRifle.jpg

That Hello Kitty rifle shoots great, I've sported it multiple times :D

Cali-Shooter
09-25-2011, 8:24 PM
style and functionality all in 1 package! With the MMG, they just seem to be the perfect stock pair up for me.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5547543005_df7cc27c54_b.jpg

Nice rifles! /envious :)

@the original poster

I like the A2 stock on my AR for several reasons:

1. It allows me to use my MMG for Kali-compliance for my "featureless" build.
2. The A2 stock has a hollow compartment in the rear of the stock large enough to store an entire basic cleaning kit for firearms (no brush or boresnake) or about 24 rounds of loose .223.
3. The A2 stock does a good job of enclosing and protecting the AR's buffer tube from heavy dings and damage, unlike stocks such as the basic M4 telescoping stock, which has nowhere near as much durability vs. the A2 stock, imo.
4. The A2 stock is a perfect fit for the MMG, and the MMG allows me to stay lower to the ground when shooting prone vs. the standard M-16 pistol grip.
5. I happen to like M-16a2 builds, so I am biased in liking the A2 stock, since what's an M-16a2 clone without one?! :)

Also, my current build:

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5604/pict0001rd.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/341/pict0001rd.jpg/)

tacticalcity
09-25-2011, 8:25 PM
I'm reading the black rifle threads on a few forums and I'm seeing more and more A2 stocks. Are they back in fashion?

Aside from not being adjustable are there any negatives about them?

Thanks,
Smitty

They are too long for me. I'm a nose to the charging handle shooter. The shorter A1 stock works a little better. On a 20" barrelled AR like Tuna's above either an A2 or an A1 which I prefer is a must. The adjustable stocks were not designed for them and look ugly as sin on them.

On a carbine I like adjustable stocks set to the first notch. A good quality milspec stock is going to have zero play in it. My LMT Sopmods don't. If they did have play, then I would look into replacing them with an A1 length stock.

On a side note it bugs me when people play around with my rifle's stock. Just because it can be adjusted doesn't mean I want people messing with them. Strikes me as odd that people who are practically strangers feel comfortable just making adjustments to somebody elses rifle the minute somebody lets them hold it. It's very rude. People don't realize it. Even seen somebody start to try and adjust my sights when I let them fire a couple rounds. People don't get just how messed up it is to change somebody's sights and make other changes to their rifle. If it is not yours, leave the settings alone. You wouldn't change the preset stations on somebody's car radio if they let you borrow the car for an hour.

Sorry...started to rant there for a second!

NYY
09-25-2011, 8:44 PM
i wouldnt say so much as a "style" but a personal preference. Whether or not you like it when your shooting. If i bought a 20 or 18", then id probably use an A2. Anything lower and id go collapsible.

bwiese
09-25-2011, 8:45 PM
I could live with an even longer "A2-Plus" stock and still do nose-to-charging-handle.

[Note: don't do nose-to-charging handle on an AR10 in 308. Paging W.C. Fields... ;-) ]

Note that A2 stocks have a nice storage compartment in them for cleaning gear, spare bolt, small parts, etc.

23 Blast
09-25-2011, 8:55 PM
Most normal length stocks work fine for me, the notable exception IME being the Mossberg 500 shotgun I bought from Big 5 a while back. That stock was too long for me and the 12" LOP one I bought from midway fit me perfectly.

That said, I like the lighter weight and adjustability of the telescoping stocks that are now common on many black rifles as well as in kits for various rifles like the 10/22. In the case of my 10/22, I especially like that I can use it comfortably in full extension while my son (who is 8) can use it comfortably in the fully-collapsed position. As he grows, the adjustable stock can be adjusted along with him.

X-NewYawker
09-25-2011, 8:58 PM
style and functionality all in 1 package! With the MMG, they just seem to be the perfect stock pair up for me.
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5547543005_df7cc27c54_b.jpg

ditto

nitroxdiver
09-25-2011, 8:59 PM
I love the A1 on a rifle length rifle. Easier for me to shoot prone than the slightly longer A2. For carbine length rifle, I prefer the sopmod. In fact, it's all I'll ever use for a collapsible.

ElvenSoul
09-25-2011, 9:05 PM
The best reason to have one, "with only ten rounds in Kommiefornia I want to be able to Buttstock to head that eleventh zombie!"

Moto4Fun
09-25-2011, 9:16 PM
I went with the A2 for a couple reasons. One, I thought it was less expensive, two, I thought it felt more sturdy, and three, I didn't foresee ever changing the length of my stock.

esskay
09-25-2011, 11:36 PM
This is my choice for fixed stocks:
http://www.vltor.com/images/tanrflkit.jpg

I like the wider cheek weld from these types of stocks. A1/A2 is ok but I miss the cheek weld.

Saber2Golf
09-26-2011, 11:30 AM
If they're "making a comeback" then we're all primed to be AR hipsters...Yeah, I liked A2 stocks back when they were on vinyl...before they were cool.

I actually have always liked them, so I'm as guilty as anyone else. As for the OPs question, it may be that A2 stocks never fell out of favor in CA because the popularity/necessity of the Monsterman Grip, but they're becoming popular again in free states.

As for my ARs, my 18" DMR has a collapsible stock on it, but my featureless 9mm AR has an Ace stock that I made my own grip wrap for, but I had an M16A4 in basic training that I'd love to have a replica of, complete with A2 stock.

crackerman
09-26-2011, 11:56 AM
I have a collapisble on my "combat" lower with a radlock that is for classes and to play in another state.

My A2 stock is on my "hunting" lower with an overly Loctited bulletbutton. No warden or cop will ever be able to mistake that as an "assault weapon" when I am hunting. I just set it up that way so when I am varmint hunting I have less hassles.

They both have their place but those are my reasons

Bobby Ricigliano
09-26-2011, 5:05 PM
+1 for A2 stock and MMG combo. Fashionable? In style? I don't care.

GettoPhilosopher
09-26-2011, 5:56 PM
+1 for A2 stock and MMG combo. Fashionable? In style? I don't care.

I love my A2 + Solar wrap combo on my M16A4gery.

unusedusername
09-26-2011, 6:16 PM
I personally find the A2 to be too long for me...

The A1 length ones fit me perfectly, but finding one sold as a complete set is a PAIN! If anyone sees a set (tube, screw, and stock) let me know...

RRA entries are shorter then A1 length, and I actually find them to be too short.

dieselpower
09-26-2011, 6:51 PM
I personally find the A2 to be too long for me...

The A1 length ones fit me perfectly, but finding one sold as a complete set is a PAIN! If anyone sees a set (tube, screw, and stock) let me know...

RRA entries are shorter then A1 length, and I actually find them to be too short.

A1 and A2 are the same tube.

motorwerks
09-26-2011, 8:05 PM
I love my A2 stock but I only have one on my service rifle now. I was running one on my AR .308 but it beat me up too much.

mcisniper
09-26-2011, 8:46 PM
I'm building my AR and was wondering who makes/sells the best quality/mil-spec A2 stock?

motorwerks
09-26-2011, 10:48 PM
I'm building my AR and was wondering who makes/sells the best quality/mil-spec A2 stock?

I've had Colt, DPMS, and I have no idea who made my green one if I didn't tell you which was what you wouldn't be able to tell one from the other (except maybe the green one because its.... well green).

someR1
09-26-2011, 11:09 PM
a2's look great with carry handles :)

6doubleR
09-26-2011, 11:52 PM
I was not a fan of the A2 stock or carry handle UNTIL i shot an AR configured in the A2 style. I am definitely a fan now!

Jimmy310
09-27-2011, 12:42 AM
I love the A1 on a rifle length rifle. Easier for me to shoot prone than the slightly longer A2. For carbine length rifle, I prefer the sopmod. In fact, it's all I'll ever use for a collapsible.

My first ar15 was a m16a1 style. I miss the shorter buttstock on that one, i cant get used to the a2 style yet.

Anchors
09-27-2011, 1:59 AM
I think if I build another AR, I will be using the A2 stock just because I like the way they look (might even do a retro Vietnam War era build, but still use an A2 for availability/simplicity's sake).

I like the adjustable stock because my girlfriend is short and I am tall, so she usually drops it all the way down whereas I fully extend it.
It also rides in a pretty small case collapsed.
It also looks cool.

I guess just like everything else is all comes down to what you like and what works for you and that is really the most important thing to consider :)

Standard
09-27-2011, 10:23 AM
My AR is rifle-length so I like the A2 stock to balance it out.

Grumpyoldretiredcop
09-27-2011, 12:45 PM
My AR is rifle-length so I like the A2 stock to balance it out.

Agree with this. I only put aside my A2 stocks when I went to carbine length barrels on all my ARs. Mine now vary from a full adjustable CAR stock to a pinned Magpul to an ACE entry length skeleton stock with a 1" recoil pad for length adjustment (yup, I'm a nose-to-charging-handle type).

Coyotegunner
09-28-2011, 12:22 AM
I only like the A2.I top them with KICKEEZ stick on pads.Nice on my face.Winter/summer.Had the adjustable,rattle kind before.Not me.Would like to try the Ace skeleton though.

Droppin Deuces
09-28-2011, 12:24 AM
Looks great on rifles, silly on carbines.

temilotzin21
09-28-2011, 10:07 PM
Hell yes it's back in!