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NotPukeGreen
09-25-2011, 5:10 PM
Hi, I was wondering if anyone here has used this upper Gas piston set up and how did it hold up?
http://blackriflearms.com/AR-15-556x45-Complete-Piston-Upper-201106110001.htm
I'm going to a complete upper and wanted a piston set up and this price looks very affordable.
I know the Adams is a good quality set also, but I'm on a tight budget, Thanks for any input on these.......:)
Eric..........

MrPlink
09-25-2011, 5:40 PM
never heard of em

tomd1584
09-25-2011, 5:47 PM
that looks like an exact copy of the Adams Arms piston setup, with a Failzero coating on the BCG..

Perhaps they buy piston retrofit kits from AA, and assemble their own lowers?

308Shadow
10-17-2011, 7:10 AM
I run both the Black Rifle Arms 5.56 and 7.62x39 and they are NOTHING like Adams Arms....they have their own design. If you go here: http://www.youtube.com/user/BlackRifleArms#p/u/0/Jta-_DQl7nk then scroll to the 20 second mark and it will cover their piston system. Last time I talked to the owner at Black Rifle Arms they said they were working on a low profile gas piston system that will FIT UNDER THE HAND RAILS as seen in their photo gallery:
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/blackriflearmsgps/bralowprofilewithsamsonrail.jpg


I initially went with them because of their carrier design that eliminates metal on metal contact and I can't say enough good about their piston uppers. The nice thing about their carrier design is I haven't experienced any carrier bounce and I shoot a lot of auto.
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/blackriflearmsgps/boltcarrier.jpg

NotPukeGreen
10-17-2011, 8:14 AM
Thanks for your reply,
I went with the A.A. mid, because of the good reviews, I just couldnt find much about the Black rifle setup.
I do like the bolt carrier and sounds like a very sound idea.
Eric......

Droppin Deuces
10-17-2011, 8:34 AM
I run both the Black Rifle Arms 5.56 and 7.62x39 and they are NOTHING like Adams Arms....they have their own design. If you go here: http://www.youtube.com/user/BlackRifleArms#p/u/0/Jta-_DQl7nk then scroll to the 20 second mark and it will cover their piston system. Last time I talked to the owner at Black Rifle Arms they said they were working on a low profile gas piston system that will FIT UNDER THE HAND RAILS as seen in their photo gallery:
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/blackriflearmsgps/bralowprofilewithsamsonrail.jpg


I initially went with them because of their carrier design that eliminates metal on metal contact and I can't say enough good about their piston uppers. The nice thing about their carrier design is I haven't experienced any carrier bounce and I shoot a lot of auto.
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z349/blackriflearmsgps/boltcarrier.jpg

Really? NOTHING like Adams Arms? While it is definitely not a copy of the Adams one piece op-rod, it does look like they combined the Adams and CMMG type systems by adding an extra part.

308Shadow
10-17-2011, 10:33 AM
Really? NOTHING like Adams Arms? While it is definitely not a copy of the Adams one piece op-rod, it does look like they combined the Adams and CMMG type systems by adding an extra part.



Sorry but I don't see the connection at all.

BLACK RIFLE ARMS:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/floridatlc/308LPSIDEFENSEUPPERBRAGP2.jpg
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/floridatlc/308LPSIDEFENSEUPPERBRAGPS.jpg

CMMG:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/floridatlc/cmmg.jpg

AA:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/floridatlc/Adams_Arms_AR-15_carbine_piston.jpg


Last I looked AA looks more like LWRC:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a320/floridatlc/lwrc007121.jpg

Droppin Deuces
10-17-2011, 10:52 AM
Wow, it has even more useless parts that I initially thought. The op-rod is still just a shortened version of the Adams Arms with the addition of a couple extra "This makes our design original" pieces.

308Shadow
10-17-2011, 11:11 AM
Listen if your a fan of AA that's fine but to comment or talk about a system you never ran or have touched is you being bias. You have a preference and I have mine, you don't see me cutting AA down nor do I feel the need to...just difference of opinions! Im not here to be judgmental or put down others like you have. I was answering the OP and my own experience with a piston system that has been rock solid for me...it surely isn't my first piston system as I have owned a couple over the years! Don't know why you feel the need to harass.

Also your words are slanderous as you base them on no knowledge of this company's piston system. Everything you state is your opinion and not based on facts....you ought to be careful as you put calguns.net in a very peculiar position with defamation of a company.

308Shadow
10-17-2011, 11:28 AM
Thanks for your reply,
I went with the A.A. mid, because of the good reviews, I just couldnt find much about the Black rifle setup.
I do like the bolt carrier and sounds like a very sound idea.
Eric......


Welcome...just thought I would share my experience. I have nothing bad to say about AA and wish you the best with your rifle!

Droppin Deuces
10-17-2011, 11:36 AM
Oh please. All I'm saying is that they all more or less work the same. The biggest differences between one system and the next MIGHT be the size of the holes. All of these companies come up with what they think is their own groundbreaking version of the same damn thing and pretend they're selling something different. Trust me, there's only so much that can happen between the gas block and BCG. These guys cut the op-rod into three pieces and now they have something "different," right?

I use Adams Arms as my reference point because they have the simplest system.

SacMacNut
10-17-2011, 11:51 AM
I too own a adams arms moe mid length upper but haven't had the chance to test it out yet.

Droppin deuces have you notice any carrier tilt from your upper?

308Shadow
10-17-2011, 11:53 AM
Oh please. All I'm saying is that they all more or less work the same. The biggest differences between one system and the next MIGHT be the size of the holes. All of these companies come up with what they think is their own groundbreaking version of the same damn thing and pretend they're selling something different. Trust me, there's only so much that can happen between the gas block and BCG. These guys cut the op-rod into three pieces and now they have something "different," right?

I use Adams Arms as my reference point because they have the simplest system.


I said they had their own design, it wasn't their word it was mine then you choose to bash with your words stating "even more useless parts" and bottom line is that's your own opinion. I guess you feel LWRC has "more useless parts" too but bottom line they are a awesome company. We all have our preferences when it comes to these systems and there surely no need to bash another company when one has no experience with them, that's all. To each their own! I'm happy with my piston upper, your happy with yours, period!

I have no need to comment further I only came to address the OP and have done so.

Droppin Deuces
10-17-2011, 12:11 PM
I too own a adams arms moe mid length upper but haven't had the chance to test it out yet.

Droppin deuces have you notice any carrier tilt from your upper?

No. I put a ton of rounds through it and never had a malfunction of any kind. No signs of wear that you wouldn't find on a DI carrier. No Carrier tilt, no marks on the inside of the buffer tube, etc. It's a great no nonsense design, but I ended up selling it just to have something different. I would buy another if looking for a piston upper again.

eviioiive
10-17-2011, 12:22 PM
Also your words are slanderous as you base them on no knowledge of this company's piston system. Everything you state is your opinion and not based on facts....you ought to be careful as you put calguns.net in a very peculiar position with defamation of a company.


:rolleyes:

SacMacNut
10-17-2011, 12:56 PM
No. I put a ton of rounds through it and never had a malfunction of any kind. No signs of wear that you wouldn't find on a DI carrier. No Carrier tilt, no marks on the inside of the buffer tube, etc. It's a great no nonsense design, but I ended up selling it just to have something different. I would buy another if looking for a piston upper again.

Cool, you ease my worried mind.