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Steve1968LS2
09-22-2011, 5:29 PM
Like the SGL31 (74) vs the SGL21 (47).. there's something like a $50 or more price difference.. one can't possibly cost more to make..

Shopping around and we just curious..

Also, anyone heard of Legion? Are they like Arsenal in terms of converting Saigas?

pacifico23
09-22-2011, 6:16 PM
From what I gather Legion is the Importer of Saigas. They don't convert, they ship over the sporterized version from Mother Russia.

zfields
09-22-2011, 6:25 PM
From what I gather Legion is the Importer of Saigas. They don't convert, they ship over the sporterized version from Mother Russia.

took over from russian american armory.

Didnt they used to/still do some conversions though?

Steve1968LS2
09-22-2011, 6:26 PM
Gotcha.. but why (Legion or Saiga) do the 74s cost more than the 47s?

Bigtwin
09-22-2011, 6:30 PM
Gotcha.. but why (Legion or Saiga) do the 74s cost more than the 47s?

My guess (and it is just that), it is supply and demand!
I can't imagine much if at all cost of manufacuring difference.

Dark Mod
09-22-2011, 6:37 PM
Yeah supply and demand makes more sense. If they didnt get more money for making them, then they wouldnt make them

Bigtwin
09-22-2011, 7:02 PM
Yeah supply and demand makes more sense. If they didnt get more money for making them, then they wouldnt make them

I wouldn't go that far. If they make money on one caliber why not add to that, other options?
The Ak74 replaced the Ak47, so I would imagine as it happens in the US, many folks want whatever is new....by comparison...the Ak74 is the newer platform(in the AK line that is)!
So if they can squeeze out a few bucks more for the 74....why wouldn't they?

They would surely make them even with out the extra cash.

SanPedroShooter
09-22-2011, 7:33 PM
Right, but isnt 74 ammo way cheaper? I am going to buid a 74 for just that reason, well that and I already have two guns in 7.62x39

backstrap
09-22-2011, 7:59 PM
Because they are better.

Javi
09-22-2011, 8:42 PM
Interarms 74's cost more than 47's too haha. I was wondering the same thing, OP.
74 MSRP: $639.00
47 MSRP: $589.00

Solidsnake87
09-22-2011, 10:09 PM
AK-74s probably don't sell as well as their 7.62 or .223 counterparts for a number of reasons. I would attribute this to the fact that corrosive milsurp is the most commonly available. Corrosive ammo is a maintenance issue most want to avoid. Also, I have yet to enter a shop that carries 5.45 ammo of any type. People like conveniently available ammo. Cabelas carries 20 round boxes of hornady match grade 5.45 for $26 each, which makes me LOL. Pretty much one must order bulk ammo online. Non-corrosive 5.45 is available in a few places online (Tula, wolf, and silver bear) at good prices. Again, shipping ammo is not what most people do. They buy from a local store or range out of convenience.

Personally, 5.45 is superior for plinking. Its WAY cheaper (both in bulk and 20 rnd boxes) and cleaning is not that hard. You will cover any difference in price in ammo costs after 200ish rounds are fired.

Javi
09-22-2011, 10:12 PM
I would think that since 5.45 isn't as popular as 7.62, they'd set the price lower than or equal to a 47 for the "hassle" of not finding ammo for it everywhere :)

novalondon
09-23-2011, 1:29 AM
The reason is the barrels are the same size diameter on the outside but with smaller diameter for caliber it makes for a thicker barrel....More metal, more cost to build.
Sounds good anyway.....LOL

Cali-Shooter
09-23-2011, 1:39 AM
I think it's because the manufacturers assume that anyone who shoots 5.45 out of their AK-74 will do so to save money(compared to regular 7.62x39) on ammo costs, so they figure they could price the firearm higher due to the demand for such an AK that can shoot the cheaper and flatter trajectory round, and people would still buy it for the savings it would incur (compared to a 7.62x39 AK).

Cali-Shooter
09-23-2011, 1:43 AM
of interesting note, however, is that Century Arm's AK-74's are either the same price as, or cheaper than their "trademark" AK-47 line, the WASR.

The Bulgarian CAI AK-74 that they sell with the cheapo plastic stock and furniture is only about $369 (free state price).
The CAI Polish Tantal is about $399.
Their new WASR-2 line of 5.45x39 AK's are about the same price as a WASR-10 ($399 - $450).

pyro3k2
09-23-2011, 2:10 AM
:facepalm: buy a spam can of 5.45x39 and you will get your money back in savings right then and there.

limitdown
09-23-2011, 8:00 AM
The 47 might have lower cost of production because of economies of scale when mass producing higher volumes.

Steve1968LS2
09-23-2011, 8:11 AM
:facepalm: buy a spam can of 5.45x39 and you will get your money back in savings right then and there.

You're a GENIOUS!!

:)

Using that logic a 10/22 should have been priced higher than a PC9...

Anyway, just something I noticed while shopping.. was curious if there was a real manufacturing reason, looks like it's more of a marketing reason.

I think the most likely one I've heard is that they sell more 47s compared to 74s..

Colt-45
09-23-2011, 1:26 PM
Ak74 ammo (5.45x39) is way cheaper than AK47 ammo (7.62x39) the reason why an AK74 rifle is more expensive is simply because they just have to screw you somewhere. No escape.

NorCalK9.com
09-23-2011, 9:25 PM
Ak74 is newer. Plus I truly love the 74 so much more than the 47.
Also screw those sgl's lmao
Wait for it.

Bigtwin
09-23-2011, 10:01 PM
Right, but isnt 74 ammo way cheaper? I am going to buid a 74 for just that reason, well that and I already have two guns in 7.62x39

Yes it is! The only thing is all I can seem to find is surplus. No current manufacture, no reloading dies , no reloading specs available!

Not that it is a terrible thing, but it will be hard to find the ammo at many LGS's.

AK47 on the other hand seems to have all those things! I do too!

Cali-Shooter
09-23-2011, 10:04 PM
I still prefer my 7.62 Ak, but the 5.45 is nice. Definitely gets the job done.