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Dark Mod
09-20-2011, 10:47 PM
Anyone around and into guns back in 1978? what were the hot guns of that era? im assuming mostly 1911's and revolvers.

Christmas is coming, and that was the year my Dad opened his pawnshop, so i thought it would make a really special present to get him the hottest gun from back then. He wouldnt have been able to afford it at the time and ended up getting out of guns before he started making enough money to buy it.

He doesnt know much about modern guns, and his "dream" gun from back when he was into them would be epic

six10
09-20-2011, 10:56 PM
Perhaps his dream gun wasn't the hottest seller of 1978. Maybe he always wanted a certain model rifle (or whatever). Really, I'd strike up a general conversation with him about guns and then while he's reminiscing, deftly ask him if there was ever any particular gun he wished he could've owned. Then buy him one for Christmas.

Nice idea, btw. Good luck! :)

tileguy
09-20-2011, 11:01 PM
smith and wesson highway patrol model 357

kylemurdoc
09-20-2011, 11:03 PM
I wasn't even born yet in 78 but I know Browning FN Hi Powers have always been big. Get him a few magazines with Hi Powers and 1911's, then pick his brain to get an idea of his taste. Find out if he prefers to shoot 45 or 9mm that might make or break the 1911 idea.

Specter6A
09-20-2011, 11:10 PM
For autoloaders S&W Model 39 & 59 9mm pistols were pretty state of the art back then. However, revolvers ruled that era. I know a nice S&W 2.5" Model 19 snub takes me right back.

InGrAM
09-20-2011, 11:12 PM
Colt 70's series? Any 1911.

Red Devil
09-21-2011, 6:39 AM
Ruger nm Blackhawk... Colt Python...

...both in .357 magnum.


The S&W Mod. 29 in .44 magnum was fanboy qualified by Dirty Harry...

bsg
09-21-2011, 6:57 AM
For autoloaders S&W Model 39 & 59 9mm pistols were pretty state of the art back then. However, revolvers ruled that era. I know a nice S&W 2.5" Model 19 snub takes me right back.


S&W Model 19 is a nice suggestion. the Model 39 would be a great one as well.

Rekrab
09-21-2011, 6:58 AM
Keep in mind you're talking about non-C&R and most likely not Rostered handguns if you actually get one from 1978. Better start hitting the for sale section hard.

I wasn't around back then, but I would think the Ruger Security Six, Speed Six, and Service Six were all hot items considering their reputation as unstoppable tanks.

yzernie
09-21-2011, 6:59 AM
S&W Model 66

rogervzv
09-21-2011, 7:05 AM
These are the ones I bought around that time. I still have them all today and they are all still great shooters!

Dan Wesson 357 (Mod. 15-20)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a331/Roger54/Gun%20Stuff/_DSC3933.jpg

Beretta Model 84 (.380)
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a331/Roger54/Gun%20Stuff/_DSC3930.jpg

Colt Gold Cup Series 70
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a331/Roger54/Gun%20Stuff/_DSC3910.jpg

shooting4life
09-21-2011, 7:27 AM
S&W 27-2
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/shooting4life/IMG_2945.jpg

Oceanbob
09-21-2011, 8:14 AM
I remember Skeeter Skelton (RIP) did a story about a 5,000 round torture test on a .45 Auto.......

1911s were king.

Dark Mod
09-21-2011, 8:46 AM
Thanks for all the help, i dont want to ask him cuz i want this to be a complete surprise. A python or a gold cup would be nice if i can find one. Now to start scouring the marketplace

Joewy
09-21-2011, 9:09 AM
Colt Pythons, MAC-10's and there were some little 6 shot 45 autos that were sold in matching pairs that you wore on double shoulder holsters. Cant remember who made them.

Bongos
09-21-2011, 9:14 AM
Dirty Harry came out in 1971... the S&W 29 was the king of toys for the big boys

AEW
09-21-2011, 9:25 AM
Yep, S&W revolvers were the hot ticket at that time. Colt 1911A1 & Commanders, Colt Pythons, Ruger Mk 1 22 autos, Browning HPs, and lots of mil surplus stuff such as P08, C96 Broomhandles, P38s, GI 1911s, were all popular. Certainly the choices for new guns are much greater today but all of the nice surplus stuff seems to have dried up. Good memories of those days but you can't live in the past.

RedFord150
09-21-2011, 9:25 AM
Ruger Security Six, Police Service Six, Speed Six, and .22 Auto were all very popular.
S&W Model 10 was commonly found on the belt of many LEO's. The Model 36 Chief was under the coat of many detective.
S&W Model 29 in .44 mag was only a dream for many young shooters.
Colt Python, Trooper, Cobra, Detective Special, Gold Cup, etc.
Browning Hi Power was legendary.
Walther PPK/s, Mauser, and Beretta were all popular .380 semi-autos.

smle-man
09-21-2011, 12:16 PM
I can tell you what was hot in my area back then. I worked in a gun shop until 77. A wood display case M29 was the holy grail and sold way over retail. Any luger was hot. M59s were the must have for an auto shooter followed by a commander in nickel finish. M19s were the revolver for shooters. M25-2 .45ACP were pursued heavily. PPK and PPKS were it for pocket autos. Any of these except the 19 went for more than retail. The 19 was just the revolver everyone wanted since the police carried them. If you shot a Ruger it was because you couldn't afford the SW.

ocmsrzr
09-21-2011, 12:23 PM
S&W 59...the First of the much contested Wondernines.

Lead Waster
09-21-2011, 12:27 PM
Get some back issues of Guns and Ammo (or whatever) from 1978.

billybob_jcv
09-21-2011, 12:48 PM
Instead of the "most popular gun in 1978", here's another couple of ideas for you:

1) Find a cool gun that was actually first came to market in 1978. This gives you a closer tie-in to the year 1978 - the pawn shop and this gift were both born the same year.

2) Since we're talking about a pawn shop, I'm assuming he sold firearms? What was the first firearm he either bought/accepted or sold in the shop?

My thinking is that the hot gun of 1978 may have also been a hot gun of 1975, 76, 77, 79 or 80, etc - or, in the case of the 1911 - for the previous 67 years. So - why not make the tie to 1978 very strong and obvious - even if wasn't really a "hot" gun. It's the sentiment that really matters, yes? :happybday:

Dark Mod
09-21-2011, 12:56 PM
Get some back issues of Guns and Ammo (or whatever) from 1978.

Good call!

Colt-45
09-21-2011, 1:17 PM
Colt 45 Gold Cup series 70.

dls
09-21-2011, 1:22 PM
I was only 10,but I still have my Montgomery Wards .22, which I thought was the best.

nitroxdiver
09-21-2011, 1:40 PM
Hk P9S in 9mm. Made up until 1978. If you find one in Kali
and don't want it, pm me and I'll buy it. ;-)

billybob_jcv
09-21-2011, 1:44 PM
The #1 film of 1978 was Grease (no help there) and #2 was Superman (still not much help), however #3 was Deer Hunter - now we're talkin'! You could include a movie poster or some other movie memorabilia along with one of the many guns shown in that film. Here's a list: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Deer_Hunter,_The

For example, the Colt Model 36...

http://www.imfdb.org/w/images/thumb/e/e2/TDH-Colt5.JPG/600px-TDH-Colt5.JPG

22popnsplat
09-21-2011, 6:02 PM
In 1978 I turned 21 , If I would have had the money I would have bought me a Nickle Smith and wesson N frame . 41 or 44 mag . I didnt have the money so i bought a .50 cal blackpowder pistol .

CamW
09-21-2011, 6:07 PM
Smith and Wesson Model 66 and 60. Both were hard to find around then.

Black_Talon
09-21-2011, 6:07 PM
I was working in a gunshop back then. Blue Smith revolvers were always in demand, and always in short supply. 6" and 8-3/8" Model 29s, Model 27's and 4" and 6" Model 19's were probably the most popular. Blue 5" Series 70 Colts and all Pythons were also great sellers.

All of these were so popular that we couldn't keep them in stock. The wholesalers would cut loose with one here and there, but that was only if we bought a bunch of other guns that were slow sellers.

Dark Mod
09-21-2011, 6:25 PM
That actually sounds more like him, a blue S&W revolver with wood grips. Seems like it would be right up his alley

1surfguy
09-21-2011, 7:38 PM
I wasn't even born yet in 78 but I know Browning FN Hi Powers have always been big. Get him a few magazines with Hi Powers and 1911's, then pick his brain to get an idea of his taste. Find out if he prefers to shoot 45 or 9mm that might make or break the 1911 idea.

Not quite the same year but in the 1973 movie Serpico, Al Pacino uses a Browning Hi Power. I remember the scene when Serpico purchases the firearm and the gun store owner says something like "What are you expecting, an army?"

beerman
09-21-2011, 7:50 PM
I remember in78 I bought my 1st revolver...a 6" nickle plated Colt Trooper. Wanted a python,but couldnt justify the extra $200 bucks.Never regretted the purchase,Troopers are (were) great guns

tozan
09-21-2011, 7:53 PM
I picked up a S&W 39 9mm auto that year great gun fun to shoot.

pyromensch
09-21-2011, 9:21 PM
For autoloaders S&W Model 39 & 59 9mm pistols were pretty state of the art back then. However, revolvers ruled that era. I know a nice S&W 2.5" Model 19 snub takes me right back.

Colt 70's series? Any 1911.

and the PYTHON.... of course

pyromensch
09-21-2011, 9:23 PM
I remember in78 I bought my 1st revolver...a 6" nickle plated Colt Trooper. Wanted a python,but couldnt justify the extra $200 bucks.Never regretted the purchase,Troopers are (were) great guns

me too, only i didn't go "pimp":), and just got the blued 6"

pyromensch
09-21-2011, 9:25 PM
Get some back issues of Guns and Ammo (or whatever) from 1978.

i think i have them, back to 75

23 Blast
09-22-2011, 6:00 AM
Rogervzv, what sort of grips are those on the Colt Gold Cup?

Hopalong
09-22-2011, 6:54 AM
S&W Model 66

Yes. I had to have one, and did.
Sold it last year because I couldn't handle the explosion anymore.

BigDogatPlay
09-22-2011, 7:08 AM
For autoloaders S&W Model 39 & 59 9mm pistols were pretty state of the art back then. However, revolvers ruled that era. I know a nice S&W 2.5" Model 19 snub takes me right back.

^^^This^^^

I bought a 39-2 in 1977, and a 59 in 1979, still have the 59.

Revolvers were king then. 1911's were, largely the domain of competetive men shooters and (perceived at the time) cranky old men like Colonel Cooper. Among those I ran with, Browning High Powers were prized then as they are now.

The earliest Sigs, what we know now at the P220 and P226, started coming into the country in 1977 under the Browning BDA name, with Euro-style mag releases. I shot a P220 in 1978 and was impressed, but the heel mounted mag release was impratical.

Looking at a Gun Digest for that time period is a walk through pure S&W, Colt and Ruger revolver goodness.

whipkiller
09-22-2011, 7:52 AM
Once you determine what gun you're getting him, go on E-Bay and I'd be willing to bet you can also get him some of the original print ads from when the gun came out.

My wife has a '64 Rambler convertible that she's had since high school, and I got her some of the full page magazine ads off ebay and framed them. They hang on the wall by the door to the garage where the Rambler lives.

Having the ads would help the historical connection to '78.

Very cool gift, BTW. It means so much more when someone puts a lot of thought into a gift.

HighLander51
09-22-2011, 8:07 AM
I remember Skeeter Skelton (RIP) did a story about a 5,000 round torture test on a .45 Auto.......

1911s were king.

Well I was around in 1978, and we bought and sold S&W 29s' for double the retail price long after Dirty Harry came out. The Colt Python became cool because of Starsky and Hutch, but those are both Hollywood guns. Shooters were just starting to run the S&W59 and H&K double stack 9mm in shootig games, i remember Bruce Gray blew a couple of them up, but the 1911 was still king. Some guys ran Browning HiPowers, but not stock, they were Cylinder & Slide reworks. I also had a S&WK38 Masterpiece for bullseye, along with a S&W17.

Amazing! right, 5,000 rounds and it lived. Any Glock would spit on this, even at 500,000 rounds.

whipkiller
09-22-2011, 1:48 PM
After I suggested th4e vintage ads I made myself curious and took a look.

There are a BUNCH of vintage gun ads, very cool to look at... kinda' puts you in the wayback machine.

Herre's just a couple; Check out the Colt 1911 ad - calls it "The gun that stopped the hun over there".

1964 Ruger 10/22 for $55.00 anyone?

Dark Mod
09-22-2011, 3:24 PM
After I suggested th4e vintage ads I made myself curious and took a look.

There are a BUNCH of vintage gun ads, very cool to look at... kinda' puts you in the wayback machine.

Herre's just a couple; Check out the Colt 1911 ad - calls it "The gun that stopped the hun over there".

1964 Ruger 10/22 for $55.00 anyone?

Wow! thats awesome! where did you get them and got any more? Id love to see some more colt ads

dascoyne
09-22-2011, 4:44 PM
Everyone knows the hottest guns of 1978, by far, were the Imperial blasters and Han Solo's sidearm.

BayouBullets
09-22-2011, 6:43 PM
Keep in mind you're talking about non-C&R and most likely not Rostered handguns if you actually get one from 1978. Better start hitting the for sale section hard.

I wasn't around back then, but I would think the Ruger Security Six, Speed Six, and Service Six were all hot items considering their reputation as unstoppable tanks.

All three barrel lengths. I LOVE them. They have butter smooth triggers and YES, they are unstoppable tanks, but don't FEEL like a tank the way a GP100 does. On foot, at night, in the pines, wild hogs common in the area... Nothing I'd rather be carrying than a Security Six with a Pachmayr grip, loaded with Hornady 140gr FTX.

Sunday
09-22-2011, 7:44 PM
The GoldCup, the Python, The Hipower were the hot pistols. Smiths were owned by Bangor punta and sucked. Dirty Harry caused the M29 Smith to sell like hot cakes.

deconb
09-22-2011, 8:55 PM
1978, your dad saw The Deer Hunter. Every dude saw The Deer Hunter.

Consider a revolver featured in this movie...

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Deer_Hunter,_The


what? too dark? :43:

PRCABR4Christ
09-22-2011, 10:26 PM
A model 19, 39, or 59 was the cats meow back in those days, other than that, Ruger and S&W revolvers, 1911's and Hi Powers are great pieces for all generations...

whipkiller
09-23-2011, 8:17 AM
Wow! thats awesome! where did you get them and got any more? Id love to see some more colt ads

Just go on E-Bay and search on "Vintage Gun Ads" (or cars, or whatever) and there's bunches of them.

The Rambler ads I got for my wife's car were in surprisingly good condition for being almost 50 years old.

protoolsnerd
10-21-2011, 7:27 AM
I luckily inherited 2 pistols from my father that were tops during that time that were both mentioned

Colt Python

and

Series 70 Gold Cup 1911

either of those guns would make any long time gun enthusiast very very happy.

Consider a newer model of a 1911 and getting the slide laser engraved for you dad commemorating this .

I know there are a few members on here that do that kind of thing , if that sounds interesting pm me and i'll find his name

den888
10-21-2011, 7:47 AM
Python, Colt Trooper, S&W 39 and 59