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h0use
09-18-2011, 1:19 PM
Hellos fellow calgunners. I am looking into buying a full-size or sub compact 9mm. I some what narrowed it down. Here are my pics Glock17, ruger sr9,spring field xd,smith and wesson MP.

zfields
09-18-2011, 1:25 PM
throw a CZ in the mix, and this will be just about every other "what 9mm thread"

Ill skip all the BS. You need to shoot them all, and see what is comfortable. Im a fan of XDs and CZ, the M&P I loved the ergos and hated the trigger

You never know what will fit till you try them.

CK_32
09-18-2011, 1:25 PM
Put me in for glocks vote.

Also consider the 19. Sub compact version of the 17.

Glock is a great first gun to start out with due to the simplicity and how they don't need to be babied and still stay reliable. But you really can't go wrong with any of those listed

510GUY
09-18-2011, 1:28 PM
Go glock 17 or 19

zfields
09-18-2011, 1:31 PM
Put me in for glocks vote.

Also consider the 19. Sub compact version of the 17.

Glock is a great first gun to start out with due to the simplicity and how they don't need to be babied and still stay reliable. But you really can't go wrong with any of those listed

Cmon man, Im not even a glock guy and I know the 19 is a compact, not sub.

stphnman20
09-18-2011, 1:32 PM
G26 or M&P 9 compact.

Also, no pic..

briguy73
09-18-2011, 1:39 PM
Big fan of the M&P after mag disconnect mod... Looking at the xd sub for my next one...

DaveFJ80
09-18-2011, 1:55 PM
I am looking into buying a full-size or sub compact 9mm.

Completely different types of guns and completely different feels and styles of shooting with each.

If you want something in between, then obvioulsy a compact size would be your best bet. But saying you want a full-size G17 or a sub compact (which would be equivalent to a G26), they are 2 completely different handguns to shoot.

IMO, you're best off deciding what size frame you want.... but then you kind of already made up your mind on a full size frame with your choices above.

Q619
09-18-2011, 2:07 PM
I'd go with either a Glock 19 or S&W M&P. I personally like M&P's more but for the fact that the Glock trigger is much better. I wish my M&P had the same trigger as my Glock.

If you're able to SSE, the HK P30 is my favorite 9mm out of them all and the FNX 9mm is pretty good as well.

Cali-Shooter
09-18-2011, 3:17 PM
I would consider a Glock 17 or M&P9.

But if for some reason you don't like or want them, then XD9 and lastly, SR9.

luckygunner
09-18-2011, 3:34 PM
You've narrowed it down to 4 solid pistols. I can give you my choice (CZ75) but you'll need to rent or borrow them. After shooting all four you will know which one is the best for you.

Out of your list of four. I prefer the XD. The grip angle is a more natural fit for me. The Glock just feels wrong, M&P doesn't feel substantial enough (barely makes sense to me), and the Ruger is nice but not refined enough. With that being said I would be comfortable with any of them.

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Colt-45
09-18-2011, 3:48 PM
Go with the Glock or the M&P.

rogervzv
09-18-2011, 3:49 PM
Of the ones that you mention I would go with the Ruger. I actually tend to prefer the SR9c to the SR9 but both are very nice firearms.
My fav 9mm is the Beretta M9A1 or 92FS but if that does not strike your fancy for one reason or another I would go with the Ruger. The M&P is nice but the Ruger has a better trigger than either the M&P or (especially) the Glock.

RollingCode3
09-18-2011, 3:55 PM
Pick one.....

or both

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v105/cadetcode3/guns/IMG_1391.jpg

CK_32
09-18-2011, 3:58 PM
And let the glock porn posting begin :D

mugiwara
09-18-2011, 4:00 PM
my wife picked a cz p01 just by picking it up for two seconds at our local shop. pick what feels best.

RollingCode3
09-18-2011, 4:00 PM
Cmon man, Im not even a glock guy and I know the 19 is a compact, not sub.

Dont question the internet expert. ;)

CK_32
09-18-2011, 4:22 PM
Dont question the internet expert. ;)

:rolleyes:

den888
09-18-2011, 4:27 PM
A vote for Glock.

paul0660
09-18-2011, 4:28 PM
And let the glock porn posting begin :D

That would be the amateur chubbies with implants catagory.

tacticalcity
09-18-2011, 4:30 PM
Of what you have listed I would go with the Glock. I own a Glock 17, and have owned Glock 19s and 23s in the past. Great guns. Easy to learn on.

I am personally torn between a Glock 26 and a Springfield EMP as my next gun. Need something for carry. Leaning towards the EMP only because it has a thinner frame and won't print as much. But the cost is an issue. The Glock 26 costs half as much. Which my wallet likes.

Here are some Gen 2s for the porn collection...both police trade ins that I got dirt cheap and ran flawlessly.

Glock 19
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh183/tacticalcity/My%20Glocks/Glock19-2.jpg

Glock 17
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh183/tacticalcity/My%20Glocks/GLOCK17.jpg

gunafficionado
09-18-2011, 5:05 PM
G19 - the best of both worlds.

WW2Buff
09-18-2011, 7:29 PM
Beretta M92 or CZ or M&P if you want polymer.

zfields
09-18-2011, 7:49 PM
CZ makes a nice poly
: )

mag360
09-18-2011, 9:19 PM
original poster: man you really narrowed that down! I've seen hurricanes assemble a more cohesive list. Get a glock 19 or m&p 9 and go from there. Once you become more familiar with semi auto's you can change up what you have. But you can't go wrong with either of these choices.

HKMadness
09-18-2011, 9:41 PM
Op, do you want a full size or sub compact gun? Your op said you want either/or, but there is quite a difference in size between them. It depends on what your intended use is for them and size of your hands. Cant go wrong with a glock, if thats your price range.

BayouBullets
09-18-2011, 9:44 PM
You've narrowed it down to 4 solid pistols. I can give you my choice (CZ75) but you'll need to rent or borrow them. After shooting all four you will know which one is the best for you.

Out of your list of four. I prefer the XD. The grip angle is a more natural fit for me. The Glock just feels wrong, M&P doesn't feel substantial enough (barely makes sense to me), and the Ruger is nice but not refined enough. With that being said I would be comfortable with any of them.

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+1 exactly my thought as well

g17owner
09-18-2011, 9:46 PM
How about a Beretta 92 or the M9A1. Soaks up recoil well, full size and has a rail and is pretty reliable.

ZombieTactics
09-18-2011, 9:51 PM
... Glock17, ruger sr9,spring field xd,smith and wesson MP.
All excellent choices. I own Glock, Springfield XD and Ruger SR9 myself ... the SR9c is my favorite, followed closely by my Glocks.

Pick what feels best in your hand and don't look back.

epcii
09-18-2011, 9:57 PM
XD's are on sale, and you get an additional 3 mags for free. All the firearms listed are great choices, however.

Dark Mod
09-18-2011, 10:17 PM
went to walmart today before i went to the range, they were out of the federals so i bough a box of wwb. after 100 rounds, i could tell that the federals were much cleaners as the wwb left a lot of residue on my gun. after shooting hundreds of federals i didnt have to clean my front mount light but after a box of the wwb, imy light mount was all caked up. Dont know if that means anything but i havent had a problem with the federals in either 50 or 100 pack.

Huh? hes asking about 9mm handguns...

Tinfoil_Hat
09-18-2011, 10:44 PM
Yep. All great choices. I personally like the ergos of the M&P. Have a M&P .45 full size with Apex Tactical FSS and trigger kit. Shoots like a dream. Have a M&P 9 on 2/10 days wait that has the same Apex candy waiting for it when I pick it up.

Used to be a Glock guy but the M&P won me over. I'm not too crazy about the XD grip for my hands but know a lot of guys that love it. Don't really have trigger time on the Ruger. But yeah, like others have said...go rent em all, put some rounds down range and pick the one that you like shooting the most. Some extra up front cost but at least you won't play the shoulda woulda coulda game later.

InGrAM
09-18-2011, 10:56 PM
RIA 1911 tactical in 9mm.

http://e-sarcoinc.com/rockislandtacticalm911a19mmpistol.aspx

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/9965/ria1911.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/821/ria1911.jpg/)



Or a M&P9
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/4186/mp9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/853/mp9.jpg/)

Aspec5vz
09-18-2011, 11:07 PM
Walther P99!

Norsemen308
09-18-2011, 11:52 PM
y no p226? p229? from your list I would go G19 or XD9 if I wasnt considering a Sig

Jyruiz
09-19-2011, 7:58 AM
Walther P99!

^^^ This FTW. :)

kunho
09-19-2011, 8:09 AM
Huh? hes asking about 9mm handguns...


so sorry, totally posted this reply in the wrong thread.

xxINKxx
09-19-2011, 8:18 AM
Sub compacts aren't going to be very fun to shoot on a regular basis. At least not for me. Unless your a very small person or a female.

I don't think I've shot my sub compact xd9 in like 2 years. Great gun, just too small and sorta pointless for target shooting. I love my glock 17. I'm nowhere close to a fanboi, never open glock threads, or post in them. But I think I made a bad decision with the RTF2 grip version, so damn rough on the hands.

Moto4Fun
09-19-2011, 8:23 AM
I agree with others. Narrow down the size a little more first. If this is the first (of many) or even a one and only gun purchase, I would suggest a full size/length alloy (or steel) gun in 9mm with not too many bells and whistles. You don't want to be distracted by that ability to add/change too much. Just putting hundreds/thousands of rounds down range and having fun with it. So to increase the ability to enjoy the pistol, I suggest metal for reduced "felt" recoil (if you aren't carrying it, it doesn't need to be light) and the feel of sturdiness. You would also want to consider the trigger operation. For the simplest of trigger operation (striker fired IMO), you might struggle to find a non-polymer option. I liked starting with a DA/SA trigger because I was more comfortable knowing the first pull would take "intention". OF course this opens up a whole can of worms that we don't want to get into here.

OF the options you listed, I would suggest a Glock17 or 19 or the M&P9. I would actually suggest a p226 or 229 or CZ75 (quite a few variants) as they have the heft that I think people should start out with. Once you decide you want to carry it, or once you have learned the importance of trigger finger control and are confident in your ability to handle a loaded gun, then move on to the many other options that are out there.

Original Phantom
09-19-2011, 11:03 AM
To make an informed recommendation it would be best to nail down the size you want and the intended purpose of the new pistol. Going on the available information my recommendation would be for a M&P (9 or 9c) or Glock (17 or 19). Of course I love the G26 if you are serious about a sub compact.

Sturnovik
09-19-2011, 11:54 AM
Go with the Glock or the M&P.

I agree.

ZX-10R
09-19-2011, 1:28 PM
M&P or FNP-9.

runway1
09-19-2011, 2:36 PM
What feels good in your hands? Personally, polymer guns don't feel good to me. They feel poorly balanced. That's right - don't like Glocks. Try getting those polys back on target with that kind of balance.

Browning High Power or Beretta 92FS(M9). Maybe a CZ.

someR1
09-19-2011, 2:42 PM
RIA or glock :)

Akers
09-19-2011, 2:47 PM
I have a glock 27 and the xd sc40....honestly get them both (of course a minimum of 30 days apart). I can never decide which I like more. It's like having two kids, you can't pick favorite.

Professional Gunfighter
09-19-2011, 11:49 PM
I really enjoy my G23/27 but since you want 9mm, I would pick the G19.

bsg
09-20-2011, 12:05 AM
i like the Glocks; G17, G19 and G26 are my favorites.

steelholder
09-20-2011, 8:42 PM
dumb question some1 gLOCK this thread ...jk

aermotor
09-20-2011, 9:11 PM
Another vote for Glock 17 or Glock 19.

cindynles
09-20-2011, 9:51 PM
Hellos fellow calgunners. I am looking into buying a full-size or sub compact 9mm. I some what narrowed it down. Here are my pics Glock17, ruger sr9,spring field xd,smith and wesson MP.

Well.....that's quite a list you have there, why don't we try a pro/con list:

Glock
Pros: Easily available, lots of aftermarket support, easy to work on/modify yourself, cheap parts, great trigger re-set, cheap factory mags.

Cons: One size fits all (you SOL if it doesn't fit you), right hand controls only, cheap plastic sights, no options for different configuration (external safety, ect.)

Ruger
Pros: Inexpensive, decent adjustable sights, changeable backstrap, external safety, mag safety, ambi controls, made in America.

Cons: Expensive factory mags, little aftermarket support, mag safety, early models had recalls, unproven track record due to newness.

Springfield
Pros: Easily available, lots of aftermarket support, decent trigger, decent sights, cheap factory mags.

Cons: High bore axis, no options for different configuration (external safety, ect.), grip safety

Smith and Wesson
Pros: Decent aftermarket support (and getting better), decent sights, adjustable backstraps, low bore axis, multiple configurations available, ambi controls, made in America.

Cons: Hard to find in stock right now, mushy trigger, difficult to work on yourself, mag safety (on roster models).

So based on all of that, what do you want? What is important to you? I own Glocks, a Springfield, and a Ruger and have shot an M&P multiple times (I think it will be my next purchase) and each has its own quality. You really have to shoot them (or at least hold them) to decide.

If it were me I would pick a Glock because of the ease and cost of upgrading (you only need a 3/32" punch the completly detail strip one) and the availability of accessories (factory mags are only $25 when NOT on sale). But the Glock 17 also fits my hand really well.

orangeusa
09-20-2011, 10:00 PM
This is a funny thread. 92FS for me, but it's not a sub-compact... :)

Jimmy310
09-20-2011, 10:52 PM
OP, where are you located?