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Requiem
09-18-2011, 11:21 AM
Hey, guys. A friend of my family recently cleared out their garage and gave me a few old CB radios. They look to be in fairly good condition, so I need help ID'ing whether they'll be suitable for me or not. I've been thinking about putting a CB radio/police scanner in my truck for a while, but I don't even know if these archaic things work (well the police scanner does but with a weak signal). Also, I'm wondering (since technology has advanced so much since these have been made) if I would be better off just buying a brand new set up.

In short, as much guidance as can be given will be much appreciated. Here are some pics:

Bearcat 590 police scanner
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4199/bc590close.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/3476/bc590specs.jpg


Cobra 29 CB Radio
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3757/cobra29close.jpg
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/2480/cobra29specs.jpg


JCPenney CB Radio??
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/1662/jcpclose.jpg


Some kind of Coax?
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5171/coaxwhole.jpg
(writing says: "Saxton Coax Lightning Arrester Model 725")

shooterfpga
09-18-2011, 11:25 AM
im interested in the cobra 29. what does the backing plate say? i wouldnt use the coax, it might be good, but it might be broken internally. just get some new coax.

shooterfpga
09-18-2011, 11:25 AM
EDIT: misfire triple post.

shooterfpga
09-18-2011, 11:26 AM
EDIT: misfire, triple post.

okglockman
09-18-2011, 11:28 AM
I'd be interested in hearing comments also... I've never messed with CB Radios much, but would like to know more. I'm interested in setting up one in my rig.

Requiem
09-18-2011, 11:34 AM
Cobra 29 back:

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3667/cobra29back.jpg

shooterfpga
09-18-2011, 11:46 AM
the cobra is pre 1977. it had to have been manufactured when it was still a joint venture with uniden before they split. taiwan and philippine model cobra 29s are good quality. thats also a 23 ch dynascan cobra, so that was phased out early 80's, as the FCC pulled their type acceptance.

Requiem
09-18-2011, 12:00 PM
So what's that mean for me (the guy who's only operated military radios and never CB/Ham radios in his life)?

shooterfpga
09-18-2011, 12:02 PM
that means you have a rare but not that rare banned 23ch radio. it was banned in the early 80s from fcc. they were found to not be in compliance with new rulings on rf interference. use it if you want, nobody is gonna complain just you, cuz you wont have all 40 ch.

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Blitzburgh
09-18-2011, 12:30 PM
Don't by any means take my word as gospel, but I believe having a Police scanner in your vehicle is illegal.

I think it's o.k. to have one at home, but not a mobile unit. I'd check it out before you get to deep into wiring it into your truck.

Ham Radio Outlet could probably answer that question for you, and a lot of others. They have quite a few locations. Here is their website: http://www.hamradio.com/

But it does answer a question I had stewing in the back of my brain for quite some time. I know CB's are 40 channels now, but I remember quite a few years back there were fewer channels. Now if I look closely, I can tell :)

Thanks :)

GrizzlyGuy
09-18-2011, 12:37 PM
You have two vintage CB radios from the 1970's and a discontinued scanner that was made in the early 90's.

Watch this eBay auction for the vintage Cobra 29 that you have (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-Cobra-29-23-Channel-CB-Radio-w-Mic-Mount-Bracket-/180723488667?pt=US_CB_Radios&hash=item2a13f5979b) and see if it has any collector's value (my guess is that it doesn't). A new/modern Cobra 29 goes for around $90at Amazon.com (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00006JPF3) and has all 40 channels. If you really want to put a CB in your truck, it's probably best to buy a new one since they aren't that expensive.

The Bearcat might work OK if you connect a decent antenna to it and you are in a rural area where you don't need to listen to "trunked" communications. Don't worry about what that means exactly, it basically means that your scanner won't be able to pick up a lot of the police/fire communications from the big city departments. Up here in the sticks, it would pick up everything. A modern version of a scanner with the same capabilities as yours (no trunking support) goes for around $100 (http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=uniden+bc370crs&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=14749472362288365278&sa=X&ei=_kZ2TuPdBI63tgf_6tC_DA&ved=0CFoQ8wIwAw). Ones that support trunking cost more (http://www.scannermaster.com/Trunking_Scanners_s/270.htm).

For use in your truck, I'll save you the 'ham radios are superior to CB radios spiel'. Someone else will probably stop by to provide that to you. ;)

GrizzlyGuy
09-18-2011, 12:39 PM
Don't by any means take my word as gospel, but I believe having a Police scanner in your vehicle is illegal.

Only if you intend to use it in conjunction with committing a crime (636.5 PC (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/636.5.html)). For us law-abiding folks it is perfectly legal to have one in your car.

CessnaDriver
09-18-2011, 12:42 PM
I would let kids play with the CBs with a scrawny anntenna so they don't get too much range. 23 channel fossils not worth putting in a vehicle, unless your just looking for some basic communication car to car now and then and save some money.

shooterfpga
09-18-2011, 12:54 PM
the forum i belong to gives free cb radios up to $600 in value. every month theres a contest, which is free. lots of gracious people including vendors make it happen.

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shooterfpga
09-18-2011, 1:02 PM
oh and that lightning arrestor, looks like some type of low pass filter with the arrestor on it. im guessing it was for a base station.

Requiem
09-18-2011, 2:22 PM
Well I guess that answers my question... guess I'm just gonna sell this stuff for cheap. Private Non-firearm related sales forum here I come!

Cokebottle
09-18-2011, 2:47 PM
Don't by any means take my word as gospel, but I believe having a Police scanner in your vehicle is illegal.
Only if used in support of criminal activity.


As for the radios... The Cobra 29 is a nice radio, but seriously, you can get a very nice unit with all 40 channels for $100 or less.
Both the Cobra and JCP are old, and the RF decks may no longer be in proper alignment.
Not that it's an issue if you splatter on adjacent channels... that happens anyways from people running footwarmers, but it could be a problem for reception.

shooterfpga
09-18-2011, 3:08 PM
Only if used in support of criminal activity.


As for the radios... The Cobra 29 is a nice radio, but seriously, you can get a very nice unit with all 40 channels for $100 or less.
Both the Cobra and JCP are old, and the RF decks may no longer be in proper alignment.
Not that it's an issue if you splatter on adjacent channels... that happens anyways from people running footwarmers, but it could be a problem for reception.

yup, both rx and tx are muddy on those old ones.

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Taidaisher
09-18-2011, 8:04 PM
the forum i belong to gives free cb radios up to $600 in value. every month theres a contest, which is free. lots of gracious people including vendors make it happen.

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What forum do you belong to?

shooterfpga
09-18-2011, 8:17 PM
What forum do you belong to?

cbradioforum. in my opinion its the best of the other cb forums. ive tried them all, i just dont trust the others when it comes to knowledge and quality work.

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Sanderhawk
09-19-2011, 6:28 AM
You can get a brand new cobra 19 from walmart for $35.

daveinwoodland
09-19-2011, 7:23 AM
Nobody posted this? I'm shocked!

HWO_AIh8drk

shooterfpga
09-19-2011, 8:41 AM
sir mix a lot is big time on cb radios. he still makes music, but under his psuedonym prime minister. theyre all about cb radios, linears and the skip known as superbowl.

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CessnaDriver
09-19-2011, 12:43 PM
I used to talk to Australia sometimes when conditions allowed it.
During a lightning storm I was able to talk from San Diego to Sacramento.
That was a weird night, the skip never worked quite that way before.
Sounded like they were local. Go on a mountain top and the range can
be impressive.

shooterfpga
09-19-2011, 12:47 PM
I used to talk to Australia sometimes when conditions allowed it.
During a lightning storm I was able to talk from San Diego to Sacramento.
That was a weird night, the skip never worked quite that way before.
Sounded like they were local. Go on a mountain top and the range can
be impressive.

ive talked almost all over the us, during skip. unfortunately, most of the skip is mexican based.

CessnaDriver
09-19-2011, 12:55 PM
ive talked almost all over the us, during skip. unfortunately, most of the skip is mexican based.

Yep, or some of those southern states I could not even decipher the slang used. LOL I bet that is still the case.

shooterfpga
09-19-2011, 12:58 PM
Yep, or some of those southern states I could not even decipher the slang used. LOL I bet that is still the case.

its still the same way, a lot of them talk too fast and all i can hear is superbowl, droppin the maul, i just got down, lol.