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Bhobbs
09-15-2011, 11:54 AM
I am looking to buy my first pistol and have considered a lot of different models. I decided that I want a 10mm just to have something different. My friend has a 1911 in 10mm but I would rather have the 1911 in .45 ACP.

I am interested in the G20 but no one I know has one so I can shoot it and see how I like it. What I want to know is can it take full power loads because I know a lot of factory 10mm barely tops .40 S&W levels. I reload for other calibers so I was planning on reloading 10mm to get its best performance.

nacimientobound
09-15-2011, 12:08 PM
It can handle full loads. The 40 came about after complaints of excessive kick and over penetration with the 10mm. The Glock 20 is a great gun, just harder to find the ammo and more costly.

Bhobbs
09-15-2011, 12:21 PM
It can handle full loads. The 40 came about after complaints of excessive kick and over penetration with the 10mm. The Glock 20 is a great gun, just harder to find the ammo and more costly.

I have seen ammo around and it wasn't too expensive but I will reload it anyways. Having my first pistol caliber will give me an excuse to buy a progressive press. :43:

NytWolf
09-15-2011, 12:32 PM
Go to 10mm Talk Forum on ar15armory (http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/10mm-Talk-Forums-f187.html) or 10mm forum on GlockTalk (http://glocktalk.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=67). The Glock 20 can take full power 10mm rounds. As a matter of fact, makers of 10mm rounds use the Glock 20 to gauge their velocity and energy specifications.

gadjeep
09-15-2011, 12:34 PM
Hot loads of 10mm should be fired from a fully supported chamber if you want to get much life from the brass.

crazychinaman
09-15-2011, 1:49 PM
I have a Glock 20c.It is a great pistol.The ammo is a little price unless you reload.Actually the 40 sw is a little brother of the 10mm. The 10mm is about three hundred and fifty feet per second faster .You can load +p+ loads,but the brass gets hammered.The 20c is easier to shoot then the regular 20,But the flash is terrible .Too bad , I was just at Angeles the other weekend ,you could have shot it. I plan on going the Sept.30 Friday morning .

Bhobbs
09-15-2011, 1:58 PM
Hot loads of 10mm should be fired from a fully supported chamber if you want to get much life from the brass.

I am also interested in a S&W 610 but they are discontinued. I have seen where people ream the cylinder to chamber 10mm Magnum.

I have a Glock 20c.It is a great pistol.The ammo is a little price unless you reload.Actually the 40 sw is a little brother of the 10mm. The 10mm is about three hundred and fifty feet per second faster .You can load +p+ loads,but the brass gets hammered.The 20c is easier to shoot then the regular 20,But the flash is terrible .Too bad , I was just at Angeles the other weekend ,you could have shot it. I plan on going the Sept.30 Friday morning .

Thanks for the offer but I have school on Friday mornings.

Squidward
09-15-2011, 7:51 PM
Don't buy one... It's accurate, reliable and low in recoil. You'll have nothing to complain about; except for the price of ammo. :p

SandDiegoDuner
09-15-2011, 8:09 PM
Your first hand gun huh?

Why do you want a 10mm? Is it so you can one up your buddy or at least keep on an even playing field?

MA2
09-15-2011, 9:27 PM
I'm going to wait for the Gen4 G20.
Worth the wait for the: dual-recoil, and Gen4 grip texture.

waiting...waiting...waiting :turned:

dwtt
09-16-2011, 3:39 AM
Hot loads of 10mm should be fired from a fully supported chamber if you want to get much life from the brass.

Which 10mm semiauto pistol has a fully supported chamber?

Allentu
09-16-2011, 3:58 AM
You're looking to buy your "first pistol" and you are already "reloading for other calibers?" Most people start reloading after they buy a pistol but whatever floats your boat. Welcome to Calguns

Oceanbob
09-16-2011, 5:51 AM
Which 10mm semiauto pistol has a fully supported chamber?

While my Glock 20 barrel will fire and eject anything I feed it (including very hot loads)..the brass expands to the wall of the Glock barrels chamber. This is normal, because GLOCK barrels are purposely loose to fire anything you can find. (built for war).

However this takes a toll on the brass. Expanding the brass and then when I reload, I have to resize them full length in order to get them to feed reliably.
(to shrink them down to normal size)

With an aftermarket barrel like Lonewolf, KKM or Stormlake the chambers are much tighter. So the shell casings don't expand as much and are much easier to resize on my Dillon 550B.

The difference is significant, in fact Glock barrel fired brass simply will not feed into a Lonewolf barrel (or any of the other aftermarket barrels) without
FULL LENGTH RESIZING FIRST.

The second part of this subject is the area at the 6 o'clock position where the feed ramp enters the chamber. This area on a GLOCK factory barrel has a curve that swoops down where the feeding ramp is. When shooting HOT ammo (Not normal range ammo) the case expands in this weak unsupported area and give the brass a SMILE. Called the GLOCK SMILE.

Lonewolf, KKM and STORMLAKE have a more shallow curve and better support in the area. So if you want to really save your brass, use an aftermarket barrel.

GLOCK SMILE with excessive overcharge: the shell on the right is unfired and normal. This is an exaggeration because these rounds were overcharged by accident. But does show the GLOCK SMILE.

(If this information is redundent I apologize. I expect some new people who read these pages will get this information. It all helps.)
http://i54.tinypic.com/bfmlnc.jpg

Be well, Bob

Lumpia is sarap!
09-16-2011, 6:22 AM
While my Glock 20 barrel will fire and eject anything I feed it (including very hot loads)...

What's a hot load?

MongooseV8
09-16-2011, 7:12 AM
Which 10mm semiauto pistol has a fully supported chamber?

Kimber

Oceanbob
09-16-2011, 7:27 AM
What's a hot load?

180 grain that does 1300 FPS. (for instance, Buffalo Bore)

Glock barrels handle this without problems.

Bhobbs
09-16-2011, 8:32 AM
Your first hand gun huh?

Why do you want a 10mm? Is it so you can one up your buddy or at least keep on an even playing field?

No, because my father has a XD9 my grandfather has a S&W .40, Glock .45 and a USGI 1911. I'm thinking about buying it to have something different.

You're looking to buy your "first pistol" and you are already "reloading for other calibers?" Most people start reloading after they buy a pistol but whatever floats your boat. Welcome to Calguns

Yes, I reload some for my rifles. Mostly my M1 and Remington 700 in .30-06 because factory ammo is supposedly hard on an M1 Garand and factory match .30-06 just barely outperforms factory match .308 Win while costing more.

Thanks for the welcome but I've been here a while. Just new to the pistol side of the forum.

aermotor
09-16-2011, 11:00 AM
I bought a Lonewolf 10mm barrel for my Glock 20 and it's insanely beefy. If you want to shoot really hot loads of of your G20, it's a pretty cheap upgrade for how thick the barrel is. A few others here do the same thing.

Bhobbs
09-16-2011, 12:40 PM
I bought a Lonewolf 10mm barrel for my Glock 20 and it's insanely beefy. If you want to shoot really hot loads of of your G20, it's a pretty cheap upgrade for how thick the barrel is. A few others here do the same thing.

Yeah I was looking at the Lonewolf barrels and thought it was a pretty good upgrade for the price.

aermotor
09-16-2011, 4:11 PM
Here are some interesting comparison photos I just took of the stock 10mm vs the Lonewolf 10mm. The biggest difference is the breech thickness.

http://aermotorstudio.com/calguns/10mm-1.jpg

http://aermotorstudio.com/calguns/10mm-2.jpg

http://aermotorstudio.com/calguns/10mm-4.jpg

http://aermotorstudio.com/calguns/10mm-5.jpg

http://aermotorstudio.com/calguns/10mm-6.jpg

http://aermotorstudio.com/calguns/10mm-7.jpg

Oceanbob
09-16-2011, 5:07 PM
Here are some interesting comparison photos I just took of the stock 10mm vs the Lonewolf 10mm. The biggest difference is the breech thickness.



Hey Zack..that's good information..!!..Thanks...

Be well....Bob :)

Here is another view of chamber support. Lonewolf wins.

http://i51.tinypic.com/beyhyu.jpg

mag360
09-16-2011, 8:07 PM
whatever you get save $25 to join the NRA for a year. I'm looking to get a 10mm as well, just the g20sf.

Bhobbs
09-17-2011, 12:22 AM
Hey Zack..that's good information..!!..Thanks...

Be well....Bob :)

Here is another view of chamber support. Lonewolf wins.

[IMG]http://i51.tinypic.com/beyhyu.jpg/IMG]

Wow, that is a big difference.

Have you had any feeding issues?

Oceanbob
09-17-2011, 6:18 AM
Wow, that is a big difference.

Have you had any feeding issues?


No feeding issues on any aftermarket barrels is you remember that if you're shooting reloads (yours or someone elses) the cases need to be resized full length.

Be well, Bob

pigman
09-20-2011, 1:23 PM
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http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=252022259

KIDRR
09-21-2011, 12:34 AM
G20SF here and love it.