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morfeeis
09-13-2011, 1:58 PM
so i'm looking at getting a rimfire handgun and rifle they will both be rugers and my question is, when i look at some of the MK3 some have rails on top while others dont. I want one with rails on top, so my question is can i add rails later to a non railed MK3?

ie, can i add rails to this later
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/13/13153.jpg

so it looks like this?
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/images/D11/74/74662.jpg
without the threaded barrel of course and the rail on the bottom too.

Merc1138
09-13-2011, 2:05 PM
It already comes with a top rail in the box that you can install to mount an optic.

Blackpowder Burner
09-13-2011, 2:06 PM
The Ruger Mark III comes with a separate top rail piece that can be screwed on. There will be some small screws on the top where it is fastened. You can see the little bumps in the picture. Can only add a top rail.

BSlacker
09-13-2011, 2:08 PM
On the top line of the pistol look close to the top surface you will notice 3 little nibs sticking up. Two in front of the ejection port above the serial number and one between the rear sight and the port. These are little set screws you can remove and install the rail. IIRC all current MKllls will accept the rail. :)

Ledbetter
09-13-2011, 2:12 PM
The mount it comes with, in my recollection, will only accept Ruger scope rings. You can install a Weigand mount that takes any Weaver ring or optic.

Big Ben
09-13-2011, 2:12 PM
^^^^ What they all said.

As a hint, use a little purple loctite on the screws when you install the rail. You can get away with blue, but purple is a little easier to remove if you want to later. Anything more than blue, and the rail will be "permanently" installed.

morfeeis
09-13-2011, 5:57 PM
Thanks a bunch guys.

then why is this $260 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/74/products_id/13153) and this one (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/74/products_id/12754) $325?

Merc1138
09-13-2011, 6:20 PM
Thanks a bunch guys.

then why is this $260 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/74/products_id/13153) and this one (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/74/products_id/12754) $325?

Because the 22/45 has a polymer frame, the mkIII has a metal frame. The uppers are actually the same, most of the internal components are the same, the mags are different because of the grip angle though.

xBEEFEDGEx
09-13-2011, 6:23 PM
then why is this $260 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/74/products_id/13153) and this one (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/74/products_id/12754) $325?

Pretty sure the cheaper one has a composite lower, and the standard (more expensive) has a steel lower just like the old mkII

CHS
09-13-2011, 6:28 PM
The mount it comes with, in my recollection, will only accept Ruger scope rings. You can install a Weigand mount that takes any Weaver ring or optic.

This. The Ruger mount isn't a true picatinny or weaver-compatible rail. The cross-slots are machined much shallower and are rounded rather than squared.

However, the gun WILL come with a mount. More importantly though, the receiver comes from the factory already drilled and tapped for any 3rd party mount that you choose to add later.

CHS
09-13-2011, 6:31 PM
Thanks a bunch guys.

then why is this $260 (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/74/products_id/13153) and this one (http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/74/products_id/12754) $325?

All-steel classic MK style versus 22/45.

They use the same top-ends but the frames are totally different and they use different magazines. The 22/45's are only a few years old. The all-steel MK/MKI/MKII/MKIII style has been around since the..... '50's I believe?

Junkie
09-13-2011, 7:01 PM
I believe that's only true for target models - I've got a "standard" MkIII, 6", and it doesn't have any holes in the top of it.

OHW
09-13-2011, 7:32 PM
Mk lll 512 can't go wrong.

morfeeis
09-13-2011, 9:45 PM
so is it worth it to spend a little extra for the steel over the polly lower?

Fatcat
09-13-2011, 10:29 PM
morfeeis:

People get the 22/45 because they want to replicate the feel of a 1911 and want a inexpensive .22 trainer. Or because of the price.

An Mk III (+ all it's variants) is an all metal gun. It will feel heavier in the hand vs. the 22/45 which will feel kinda top heavy. A Mk III's grip angle is more acute you will have to cock your wrists slightly more forward.

Personal preferences. Go to a range which you can rent both of them, then shoot them to experience the differences youself.

Also, go here to research the specific knowledge that this group has:

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/index.php

ThortheDog
09-14-2011, 7:25 AM
I believe that's only true for target models - I've got a "standard" MkIII, 6", and it doesn't have any holes in the top of it.

I think you are correct: the Mark III standard is not drilled & tapped, although the I think the target, hunter and competition models all are (and include the rail).

Likewise, the 22/45 bull barrel and hunter models come drilled & tapped.

morfeeis
09-14-2011, 5:05 PM
so MKIII 20/45 it is for me, i like the idea that it has a 1911 style grip as i'll be getting one of those too later and it'll be nice if i have already shot something with the same grip angle already a lot.

Thanks folks!

morfeeis
09-14-2011, 5:06 PM
so MKIII 20/45 it is for me, i like the idea that it has a 1911 style grip as i'll be getting one of those too later and it'll be nice if i have already shot something with the same grip angle already a lot.

Thanks folks!

psango
09-14-2011, 8:10 PM
I had no trouble mounting my BSA red dot, or the Bariska holographic sight on the rail that came with my Mark III. You can still use the fixed sights with the rail mounted. I added a fiber optic front sight (not shown). I also installed the Speed Strip Kit, and a new hammer, and bushing. It's easy to get rid of the magazine disconnect, and the ILS if you are so inclined like I was.

http://i782.photobucket.com/albums/yy107/psango/Mark%20III/DSC_0011.jpg