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santamonica9
09-13-2011, 12:22 PM
as the title states: any comments on the Smith 617 22lr revolver

I want to get a fun plinking/recreational type of 22lr revolver that I DONT need to unload one at a time & can use it in single OR double action UNLIKE the Ruger 6 and soon to be in CA the Ruger 10's

http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product4_750001_750051_764927_-1_757769_757767_757751_ProductDisplayErrorView_Y

from the internet research ive done the 6" is very accurate and it functions like a modern revolver and it has 10 rounds HOWEVER its pricey in the 700-800 range. I wanted to ask my Calgun community what you all think. Should I get this pricey 22 that has what I wished for or just do it like the single action style, single load/unload

Thank you all

Vacaville
09-13-2011, 12:40 PM
I think it's the best .22lr revolver around, but I don't own one yet because, like you said, it's expensive. If you aren't set on a revolver, get a Ruger 22/45 semi-auto. It'll run you about half what the S&W costs, and you won't regret your choice.

bzzz
09-13-2011, 1:04 PM
hello:

i have the 4" version. i like shooting it. very accurate double action trigger and the single action is super nice, s&w's really make smooth triggers. it was originally purchased because i wanted a .22lr plinker and a trainer for the .357 S&W revolver i plan on getting.

very hefty in hand, recoil is pretty much minimized (at least when compared to a sig mosquito). a 6" would be nice to have too but I don't know if i can handle that extra weight.

maybe down the line i'll get a speedloader for it but i don't mind loading it 1 by 1.

all my buddies that shot it (guys with 9mm/.40 handguns) always tell me it is fun to shoot and the trigger on it is insane.

davek8s
09-13-2011, 3:01 PM
I love my 617 6" ten shot, but then again I own 3 S&W revolvers. So I'm a little biased. In my opinion you really get what you pay for. If cost is not an issue then get it, you'll be happy with it.
That said, I also own a Heritage rough rider single action. It's on the cheap side. About $250 otd and it's fun too. I wanted a single 6 but couldn't justify the price.

I have to agree with bzzz, all my friends think it's fun and has an awesome trigger.

Tank 57
09-13-2011, 3:56 PM
Have a 6 inch barrel 617.Worth the money.Would not part with it.

cudakidd
09-13-2011, 4:54 PM
I have a 617 in six inch, shoot it in Bianchi and Steel Challenge matches. I also have two different model 17s.

The best Revolver to plink, compete with bar none. Find one used for about $4-500. They are built like a tank and can be tuned if neccessary.

Here'e mine...617 has since had a Holosight installed on it...
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/cudakidd/CIMG4298.jpg
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo284/cudakidd/CIMG4300.jpg

quaildog1
09-13-2011, 8:24 PM
My 617 is a blued 6 inch that I have owned for almost 20 years. It is a great gun and I wouldn't ever really get rid of it. The trigger is really nice and only gets better the more I shoot. The only thing that is in the same category as this gun is my Python!

JamminJ
09-13-2011, 8:51 PM
I have a six inch one and have had mixed results with it. It needs to be cleaned very often (70-100 rounds) to keep the action from seizing up. S&W's customer service blew me off when I described the trouble to them.

I have a longer thread describing the problems, let me see if I can fish it up.

Edited to add:
Here it is...
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=378506&highlight=617

redcliff
09-13-2011, 9:23 PM
I have a six inch one and have had mixed results with it. It needs to be cleaned very often (70-100 rounds) to keep the action from seizing up. S&W's customer service blew me off when I described the trouble to them.

I have a longer thread describing the problems, let me see if I can fish it up.

Edited to add:
Here it is...
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=378506&highlight=617

JamminJ, have you measured your barrel to cylinder end gap? If it's too tight revolvers will often start binding after gettting a little dirty, although powder under the extractor star seems to be a mroe common problem.

I have an older 617 4" 6shot pre-lock that I like very much; it started out as a 6" barrel model but I rebarrelled it and like it better shorter. I also have pre-17 and pre-18 K22's and they're excellent shooters. I would recommend trying at least to find an older model and save some money, unless you reallyl want the 10 shots vs 6. The pre-lock blued K22's are quite collectible and their value keeps increasing. A nice one usualy goes for $500-600.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll137/ranjaz/firearms/k22twins.jpg

santamonica9
09-13-2011, 10:02 PM
thanks everyone. I guess I gota go shopping for a nice used 617. if not Im saving up for a new one :D im in love with some of these pics you guys posted. thank you very much everyone. I have made up my mind. An AR build just got the back seat, so did an AK build; but im in love with the 6" 617

cudakid -> your match rig looks awsome!

rkt88edmo
09-13-2011, 10:19 PM
I want one but can't get past the price, always looking for a used one.

TrailerparkTrash
09-14-2011, 10:48 AM
I've been DYING the last few days to get one of these guns!!!! It's funny how I actually found this thread on the very gun I've just recently "had to have!"

The price is high, but it's an excellent gun from "most" of what I've read. A few have indicated some problems that don't sound good, so I like everyone else will gamble on getting a good one from the factory.

TrailerparkTrash
09-19-2011, 1:41 AM
Got back from my local Turner's yesterday. $779.00 + tax + dros + $5 turners handling "fee" (wtf?) = A WHOLE BUNCHA MONEY FOR A .22 WHEEL GUN!!!!!

I still want one!!!!!!!!!

axhoaxho
09-19-2011, 1:17 PM
I have a S&W 617 6" 10-shots stainless steel. I love it, it is a keeper.

Regards,

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd162/axhoaxho/617a.png

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd162/axhoaxho/ds10.png

santamonica9
09-19-2011, 4:07 PM
I have a S&W 617 6" 10-shots stainless steel. I love it, it is a keeper.

Regards,

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd162/axhoaxho/617a.png

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd162/axhoaxho/ds10.png

WOW! where did you get that speed loader??? nice shot with the snap-caps :)

TrailerparkTrash - I was in their area so I checked and they had 2 in stock as of three days ago.... Bass pro (my personal disneyland :)) they had it for $749+tax+dros -> i dont remember a handling fee, but I know Turners does tax/fee/charge for dros

Rep @ BassPro tryied to convince me that since its a J frame, still has the metal & heft of the 6 series revolvers, they just had to cut 10 smaller 22s for the chamber, still labor intensive, your getting a modern day top of the line revolver in both Singe&double action that has all your requirements, etc.... that damn sales rep got me -> im now saving up for smith 617 :eek:

billybob_jcv
09-19-2011, 4:21 PM
Doesn't Taurus also make a model that is very similar to the 617? I assume the Taurus would be a bit cheaper - but how would it compare?

orangeusa
09-19-2011, 4:31 PM
H&R has older pistols which are ALSO DA (with SA option) and hold 10 rounds.

Some are in the $150-250 range. But I've also spent time shooting the 617, but cannot get past the price. I paid that price for the 686, but not a 22lr.

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shootin' nuke
09-19-2011, 4:32 PM
Doesn't Taurus also make a model that is very similar to the 617? I assume the Taurus would be a bit cheaper - but how would it compare?

No Taurus .22's on the DOJ roster at the moment, so you'd be looking at a single action conversion to exempt it. More time, effort, and money then it's worth for a Taurus IMHO.

stevie
09-19-2011, 4:39 PM
Great firearm worth the price.

Mail Clerk
09-19-2011, 6:48 PM
Doesn't Taurus also make a model that is very similar to the 617? I assume the Taurus would be a bit cheaper - but how would it compare?


I too would consider a Taurus version. It has a life time warranty and for slow recreactional shooting it's more a field gun compared to the 617 Smith.

If you want premium then the Smith & Wesson is for you BUT with the pics showm it's more of a target revolver and not designed for any field use.

How about a Smith model 63 in stainless steel???? I don't know if it's still made but the Taurus makes a version very simular.

Mail Clerk

axhoaxho
09-19-2011, 8:45 PM
WOW! where did you get that speed loader??? nice shot with the snap-caps :)

Those are the DS-10-SPEED speedloaders and holding block. Very quality made (http://ds10speed.spaces.live.com)

The gentleman - Dave Skrzela - sells them exclusively. You can email him (ds-10-speed@hotmail.com) directly if interested.

Regards,

billybob_jcv
09-20-2011, 12:19 AM
No Taurus .22's on the DOJ roster at the moment, so you'd be looking at a single action conversion to exempt it. More time, effort, and money then it's worth for a Taurus IMHO.


Arrgh - that stupid list gets me every time. :facepalm:

Sheldon
09-20-2011, 7:53 AM
The S&W 617 is a "K" frame right? I had thought it was a "J" frame, but popped the sideplate off mine the other day, expecting to see a coil hammer spring, but saw it has a leaf type spring. I need to get a lighter spring and see if I can drop the trigger pull weight down without sacrificing realiable ignition on the rimfire cartridges.

I was lucky to have the foresight a few years back to get a couple S&W 617 revolvers.....got the first one for $400, a 4" pre-lock 6-shot with the full lug barrel and the factory wood combat grips......got the second one for $425 a 10-shot lock version witha 4" full lugged barrel. I shoot the 10 shooter most and it is a blast to shoot. I use it to warm up on before I shoot my 586/686 wheelies.......great for warmups and cooldowns.

zman
09-20-2011, 8:50 AM
I have a 10-rd 617 too and it's definitely a keeper. No problems since day one :)

Btw, the speedloaders are on SALE right now at Amazon (via SpeedBeez) with FREE shipping too.

http://www.amazon.com/Four-Banger-Speedloader-Block-Shot/dp/B004XIRH9M/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&m=A3W1LU7I0Q8F8Q&s=generic&qid=1316536977&sr=1-8

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Speedloader-617-10-Shot/dp/B004WPWU34/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&m=A3W1LU7I0Q8F8Q&s=generic&qid=1316536977&sr=1-4

http://smith-wessonforum.com/attachments/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/45902d1306473858-617-envy-617-speed-loader09.jpg

stevie
09-20-2011, 8:56 AM
The S&W 617 is a "K" frame right? I had thought it was a "J" frame, but popped the sideplate off mine the other day, expecting to see a coil hammer spring, but saw it has a leaf type spring. I need to get a lighter spring and see if I can drop the trigger pull weight down without sacrificing realiable ignition on the rimfire cartridges.

I was lucky to have the foresight a few years back to get a couple S&W 617 revolvers.....got the first one for $400, a 4" pre-lock 6-shot with the full lug barrel and the factory wood combat grips......got the second one for $425 a 10-shot lock version witha 4" full lugged barrel. I shoot the 10 shooter most and it is a blast to shoot. I use it to warm up on before I shoot my 586/686 wheelies.......great for warmups and cooldowns.

The 617 is a K Frame.

johnny_22
09-20-2011, 9:16 AM
Those are the DS-10-SPEED speedloaders and holding block. Very quality made (http://ds10speed.spaces.live.com)

The gentleman - Dave Skrzela - sells them exclusively. You can email him (ds-10-speed@hotmail.com) directly if interested.

Regards,

My 617 8 1/4" barrel is the gun that all my family members and friends start with; Point and click technology and fun to shoot. The DS-10-Speed loaders (I have the older white ones) work great in the Tyro (3 targets; 6 shots, reload, 6 shots) at the Monday Night Shooting League.

If you can afford it, get a 617.

axhoaxho
09-20-2011, 11:31 AM
Btw, the speedloaders are on SALE right now at Amazon (via SpeedBeez) with FREE shipping too.


Thanks for the heads-up! I just ordered a couple more speedloaders from Amazon.

Cheers,

Joey_H
09-20-2011, 11:39 AM
I had a 6" blued 617 and found it to be too heavy with that underlug. A buddy of mine bought it from me. I found a used 6" Model 17 at the Costa Mesa show a few years ago for less than $200 and bought it. Its a lot lighter without that underlug and I love shooting it. That one is a keeper! :)

dhyayi
09-20-2011, 1:43 PM
I have a 10-rd 617 too and it's definitely a keeper. No problems since day one :)

Btw, the speedloaders are on SALE right now at Amazon (via SpeedBeez) with FREE shipping too.

http://www.amazon.com/Four-Banger-Speedloader-Block-Shot/dp/B004XIRH9M/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&m=A3W1LU7I0Q8F8Q&s=generic&qid=1316536977&sr=1-8

http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Speedloader-617-10-Shot/dp/B004WPWU34/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&m=A3W1LU7I0Q8F8Q&s=generic&qid=1316536977&sr=1-4


Thanks for the links. gonna order soon.

Knifemaker
09-21-2011, 9:30 AM
I have one for sale here

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=471466&highlight=Fresno

Upper right hand corner.

http://www.fototime.com/0E9A1EC32719552/orig.jpg

Its a pre lock 6 shot and has the smoothest action out of about 40 S&W pistols I own, probably the smoothest out of all my revolvers. If a couple sales come through on my others I have for sale this one is gonna get pulled and put back in the safe. If I wasnt jonesin for that Auto Mag...:~) I find out tomorrow if I have one for sure or not.

The six inch guns are easier to shoot with the longer sight radius but this four inch gun outshoots several of my six inch guns! They really are that good.I only have a couple .22's that outshoot this gun, one is the Colt Match Target also pictured above and the other is a 1947 K22 six inch gun.Its just one of those ringers that will shoot like no other.

I have about ten S&W .22 revolvers though I hate to part with even one:~) They are all great shooters from my pre war M,I and K frames to 50's vintage K22's to the new stuff though I cant own one with the lock.

You guys ever see the original Ladysmith? Pic below.Its a 7 shot M frame made from like 1908-1922 in three series. Its only chambered for the .22 long cartridge.I have a couple of them and they are a blast to shoot. The parts are really hard to find so I only shoot the lowest power bb and CB caps or the Colibri primer only stuff. The pic below is the Ladysmith M frame next to my Triplelock Target N frame from about 1912.
Matt

http://www.fototime.com/5F6E85008D8A110/orig.jpg

Pictured next to my 3 inch model 66 K frame.

http://www.fototime.com/ECDEB7C3B3F25F5/orig.jpg

In the palm of my hand

http://www.fototime.com/2EB4C8EAF03F21A/orig.jpg

Knifemaker
09-21-2011, 9:36 AM
The original I frame .22/.32 Kit guns. Bottom gun is a King conversion, custom sights and lengthened hammer.

http://www.fototime.com/713F8327FF2BC0F/orig.jpg

santamonica9
09-21-2011, 3:10 PM
so first I guess the rep @ BassPro might have been wrong.... K frame

I couldnt wait anylonger for a fun plinking 22 that I dont need to load/unload one by one so I went ahead a bought this from a Calguner

High Standard 9 shot revolver - smooth clean bore, great trigger on pull on snap caps.
thank you all

Knifemaker
09-21-2011, 4:32 PM
The full lug barrel makes it look like an L frame and even more confusing since both the L and K frame grips are interchangeable.

btm
09-21-2011, 4:50 PM
Great gun but the weight got to me. It is fun to shoot but not to carry around in a holster.