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axxent
09-11-2011, 10:18 PM
I asked on here awhile back about a saiga rifle, and I was met with the suggestion to buy a 22 for my first rifle. I looked up prices of both guns and ammo, and am certain on buying a 22

so my new dilemma is which rifle. I am currently looking at 5 different rifles (price is not an issue since they are all around the same)

Ruger 10/22
pros:mass produced, seems to be most popular, easy modifications (though modifications are not a high priority)
cons: many reviews say it needs work to be reliable, accuracy is questionable

Savage 64fxp
pros: good reviews for the most part, scope package
Cons: said to be very finicky with certain ammo

Marlin 795
Pros: good reviews
cons: ?

Marlin 60
Pros: great reviews, tubular mag with +10 cap
Cons:reloading

stevens 300
Pros: said to be less finicky because of manual cycling, scope package
Cons:?

I would just use it for plinking, maybe try my hand at some accuracy on paper

so what say you guys?

Cali-Shooter
09-11-2011, 10:22 PM
If you're just going to use it for plinking, the Marlin 60 would be an awesome choice. An AZ friend of mine runs his with a (get this) air rifle scope! And it is a tack-driver at 25+ yards.

But I voted 10/22, because it is a much more versatile .22 rifle, and reloading isn't such a bear in the event you might need it to hunt small game or fight off zombies.

axxent
09-11-2011, 10:31 PM
my initial thought was 10/22, but the reviews that say it needed adjustment out of the box kinda scared me... anyone have their own 10/22 good or bad experience?

Cali-Shooter
09-11-2011, 10:34 PM
Get a used one, with confirmation from the owner that it is accurized/shoots straight with sights well aligned.

There will never be too little 10/22's, the market is flooded with them, because everyone loves them. Great aftermarket support also, if you don't mind dropping the extra bucks for more features and customization.

b76
09-11-2011, 10:40 PM
I have a marlin 60 and a ruger 1022 from like 8 years ago. The ruger is a quality gun and the magazines well I like them much better. I have fat banna clip male female mags. Was my go to as a kid. Anyways the marlin feeding tube is kind of whack in my opinion. Both extremely accurate. I'm in love with the new tactical 22's

IntoForever
09-11-2011, 10:45 PM
I have a 10/22 and love it. Only problem I had with it was gumming up (in the last year). I cleaned it for the first time in it's life (this year) and it works like new again. Not bad for a 25 year old rifle.

socalocalypse
09-11-2011, 10:54 PM
I have a 10/22 and a marlin 795 and a marlin bolt action. I love all of them. The 795 is $105 after rebate at cabelas.

Its a cheapie but damn if I can't nail plates at 100 yards more often than not with stock sights.

The 10/22 I hated stock sights and put a red dot on. Now its too easy to nail the plates at 100 yards that used to vex me. I like shooting at 150 or 200 yards with this.
Its clearly better made than the 795.

I like the bolt action a lot. Heavy, longer barrel. More power. Different feel that the semis. Truthfully I'm not so great hitting anything with it but I wouldn't blame the rifle lol I just really like shooting it and it has a solid feel. New models have an improved trigger.

Hope this helps

BruinGuy
09-11-2011, 11:21 PM
You really can't go wrong with the Marlin 795 or a 10/22. I'm not familiar with any of the others you have in your poll except having seen them at the store.

The benefit of the 795 is it is very accurate right out of the box, and you can get an inexpensive scope & rings, extra mags, a bipod, and a soft case as accessories and still come in under the price of the stock 10/22. It's a really great value.

Shellshocker66
09-12-2011, 5:45 AM
Over the years I've owned several 10/22's. They are great guns and you really can't go wrong for it as your first rifle. I just picked a new one up that I had plans to start upgrading but right now it's shooting fine and tight so for now its going to stay stock other then a scope which I already have and next project is sling mounts and a sling.

Another thing if you are new to rifles you might want to check out Appleseed.

CSACANNONEER
09-12-2011, 6:05 AM
You can't go wrong with a 10-22.

TheDeltaForce
09-12-2011, 7:54 AM
Here, let me help you decide.

This is my Ruger 10/22 USA Shooting Team Race Rifle, my 50 yard rig.

- The Delta Force

https://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pLq8lWzd0A__bxNjyLPsnCh22zUgQlPs2-9yowykttgC256xd49U2SOmOVY7euvPsv-Obm1adxrQ/Talo1022-Front.JPG?psid=1

https://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1p9kCFMJU4oVaIxghJIKffT-CpbXTvQ9hp9YFt4lYszfdIkMve2dbXkWEOqKcEbmjyWJRvXo9j 2zs/Talo1022-Right.JPG?psid=1

Now, doesn't this just call to you? lol. The only things I've added to it are a Dednutz high mount scope base, Simmons scope, and recently a Volquartsen extended magazine release.

Furncliff
09-12-2011, 9:40 AM
Marlin 60 and one or two Speed-e-loaders...
http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/lgprod/GNS-120.jpg.
I have been tempted to buy a 10/22 just to check it out. But I have two Marlin 60's and they just work and they are very accurate for the $ spent. One of my 60's is a short barrel with peep sights, the other is a stainless in a Boyd's thumbhole stock with an inexpensive scope.
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg27/scaled.php?server=27&filename=dsc01321i.jpg&res=medium

dtjester
09-12-2011, 10:31 AM
I own a Marlin 795. The biggest "con" on the 795 is that there isn't nearly as much cool aftermarket stuff to get. I'm not really into that sort of thing, so it doesn't bother me one bit. It shoots great, its about half the price of a Ruger 10/22, and IMO the stock magazine system is a little easier to manage than a 10/22.

The Marlin 795 is a totally capable, legitimate alternative to the 10/22.

I put Tech Sights and a canvas GI sling on my 795, and for less than the price of an off the shelf 10/22 I have a very nice .22lr training rifle for use at an Appleseed event.

tuna quesadilla
09-12-2011, 11:24 AM
I say 10/22. One of the things that makes the 10/22 so great is the aftermarket support. The aftermarket is so astoundingly vast for these rifles that you can literally build an entire 10/22 without using a single Ruger part. Yes that's right, every single part in a 10/22 has an aftermarket counterpart that is equal or better in quality. You can shoot your 10/22 in the factory stock condition for awhile, and then when you find out what you like and dislike about the rifle you can modify it to your heart's content. :)

Sanderhawk
09-12-2011, 12:14 PM
I got the Ruger 10/22. Mine was dead accurate right out of the box. If I had to sell all my guns but a couple this is one I would keep.

Izzy43
09-12-2011, 12:39 PM
Ruger 10/22, Marlin 60 or Marlin 795 are all good choices. The question is do you want to upgrade the rifle at some point? If so then the Ruger is the obvious choice but be prepared to spend some real $$$.

If not wanting to upgrade later then the Marlin 60 would be my choice in a wood stock.

Lots of folks love their Marlin 795 and would also be my choice in a wood stock. Those synthetic stocks just seem to flex too much and will affect accuracy.

I personally own a 1985 Marlin 60 and its a great accurate little rifle that just keeps going and going.

You said you wanted it mainly for plinking so how much $$$ do you want to spend for a plinker?

ChaneRZ
09-12-2011, 2:29 PM
why there is no sw mp 15-22 on the list?:) i vote for 10/22

whipkiller
09-12-2011, 2:56 PM
Love my Marlin!

Izzy43
09-12-2011, 3:08 PM
Here, let me help you decide.

This is my Ruger 10/22 USA Shooting Team Race Rifle, my 50 yard rig.

- The Delta Force

https://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1pLq8lWzd0A__bxNjyLPsnCh22zUgQlPs2-9yowykttgC256xd49U2SOmOVY7euvPsv-Obm1adxrQ/Talo1022-Front.JPG?psid=1

https://byfiles.storage.live.com/y1p9kCFMJU4oVaIxghJIKffT-CpbXTvQ9hp9YFt4lYszfdIkMve2dbXkWEOqKcEbmjyWJRvXo9j 2zs/Talo1022-Right.JPG?psid=1

Now, doesn't this just call to you? lol. The only things I've added to it are a Dednutz high mount scope base, Simmons scope, and recently a Volquartsen extended magazine release.

I've seen this in another post and it's still BEAUTIFUL.

223556
09-12-2011, 3:25 PM
I actually plan on picking up my first .22lr firearm, a Ruger 10/22 next Thursday from Big 5. Wish I actually bought one when I first got into firearms!

Ricky-Ray
09-12-2011, 4:35 PM
10/22, Marlin 60 or 795. Can't go wrong with either one of them. I have both the 10/22 and 795 both are great.

If you plan on any upgrades, 10/22 is the way to go. If you are going to keep it basic stock as is or maybe add a sling/scope then either will do the job also.

Head to the store and pick up each one and see how it feels for you. One maybe more comfortable than the other to you or you might prefer the mechanics of one vs the other and that might help you make you decision, but I don't think you can go wrong if you wind up with either a 10/22 or Marlin 60 or 795.

axxent
09-12-2011, 5:24 PM
You said you wanted it mainly for plinking so how much $$$ do you want to spend for a plinker?

About $200. definitely under 250 for the gun itself.

You really can't go wrong with the Marlin 795 or a 10/22. I'm not familiar with any of the others you have in your poll except having seen them at the store.

The benefit of the 795 is it is very accurate right out of the box, and you can get an inexpensive scope & rings, extra mags, a bipod, and a soft case as accessories and still come in under the price of the stock 10/22. It's a really great value.

About how much less is a stock/standard 795 than a stock 10/22 (in store).

dtjester
09-12-2011, 6:35 PM
About how much less is a stock/standard 795 than a stock 10/22 (in store).

A 795 is going for 109 right now at Turners in So Cal. I think a 10/22 goes for about 200+


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mjmagee67
09-12-2011, 6:54 PM
Why no Marlin 39A? I have a 10/22 and M&P15-22 and the 39A is just a better funner gun.

b76
09-12-2011, 7:03 PM
How's that M&P? Have u shot the colt? Just curious the M&P is sick.

axxent
09-12-2011, 9:12 PM
Why no Marlin 39A? I have a 10/22 and M&P15-22 and the 39A is just a better funner gun.

Thank you for the suggestion, but I really want to keep this around 200 =)

pennys dad
09-13-2011, 6:43 AM
This is a choice of feel. Go and fondle the rifles you have listed and then decide. They all shoot fine, some have more after market stuff, but that depends on you. I dont add mods so for me after market isnt really a point of decision. Which ever you buy you wont be sorry

Izzy43
09-13-2011, 12:00 PM
About $200. definitely under 250 for the gun itself.



About how much less is a stock/standard 795 than a stock 10/22 (in store).

Go Here:http://www.davidsonsinc.com/consumers/subsites/dealer_home.asp?dealer_id=357571

and do a Gun Search on the Make and Model that interests you. The prices are pretty much what these guns are going for and will give you an idea of the differences in prices. You will not be sorry if you buy a rifle with a wood stock unless you just like the looks of the synthetic. Wood is more stable and will produce better accuracy in the long haul, can be refinished if needed.

One thought to remember is that a scope of decent quality will cost you $100+ and scrimping on the scope is never a good idea. You get what you pay for.

davek8s
09-13-2011, 3:10 PM
my initial thought was 10/22, but the reviews that say it needed adjustment out of the box kinda scared me... anyone have their own 10/22 good or bad experience?

That's just crazy talk. I still have my first rifle, a 10/22 from walmart. Both my sons have 10/22 for first rifles. Not one of them needed anything but oil and ammo to run great. None of the rifles you listed are bad choices, but I love anything Ruger rimfire.

donw
09-13-2011, 3:18 PM
I'd opt for the 10/22 as i have one, and have had it for years...

axxent
09-13-2011, 6:44 PM
This is a choice of feel. Go and fondle the rifles you have listed and then decide. They all shoot fine, some have more after market stuff, but that depends on you. I dont add mods so for me after market isnt really a point of decision. Which ever you buy you wont be sorry

Is there any major difference in quality of the gun itself between the Ruger or either Marlin choice? (IE in this case does cheaper $ mean shoddy product, or is the Ruger price just name brand hype?)

repubconserv
09-13-2011, 10:28 PM
I voted Marlin 60. My uncle has one and it's pretty old. I know I have put at least a few hundred rounds through it with very few probs.

Munny$hot
09-13-2011, 10:36 PM
I'd say a CZ 452 in 22LR. Accuracy out of the box is amazing using Federal bulk ammo from WalMart. I shot clover leafs or better at 25 yards. Also a feather light trigger kit (YoDave) on ebay is only 15.00 I get so bored with the accuracy that I have to find new challenges to keep it interesting.

bsg
09-14-2011, 2:10 AM
i like the Ruger 10/22.

JasonM
09-14-2011, 3:13 PM
I'd say a CZ 452 in 22LR. Accuracy out of the box is amazing using Federal bulk ammo from WalMart. I shot clover leafs or better at 25 yards. Also a feather light trigger kit (YoDave) on ebay is only 15.00 I get so bored with the accuracy that I have to find new challenges to keep it interesting.

While I am a fan of the CZ as well, he's not going to easily find one within his $250 budget.

Tinglifo
09-14-2011, 3:35 PM
The 10/22 aint perfect but it is the best all around 22 for shooting what needs to be shot with a small caliber. Semi-auto.. and 20 plus rounds..

AragornElessar86
09-14-2011, 3:58 PM
I've had three 1022s starting with my dad's I used to shoot as a kid and none of them were modified in any way. VERY reliable and as accurate as I need at 22LR range.

axxent
09-14-2011, 5:06 PM
went and held both today... based on that (they felt the same to me... I know nothing), and the poll I'm just gonna go with 1022

Thanks for your help on this guys, it's appreciated!

77bawls
09-14-2011, 5:11 PM
Reloading a tube is easier than loading a magazine.

tba02
09-14-2011, 5:27 PM
I have a Glenfield (Marlin) 60 and a 10/22. Both are stock. The Glenfield sees more time at the range.

axxent
09-14-2011, 5:30 PM
you are not making this easy for me :D

I guess I'll go compare prices on either of the marlins and the 1022

77bawls
09-14-2011, 5:47 PM
you are not making this easy for me :D

I guess I'll go compare prices on either of the marlins and the 1022

For what it's worth I just bought a 10/22, and I've owned a Model 60 in the past. I don't have the Marlin anymore but I wish I did, it was a childhood gun. I bought the 10/22 so I could mod it. I intend to buy a Model 60 to leave stock with iron sights.

I've only put about 30 rounds through the 10/22 so far, and never even used the iron sights, I went right to a scope. That said, I have some weird issues going on. It will group around 1" then throw one 4-6" low. This was all pretty much off hand or leaning on a tree. The factory trigger is stiff with a ton of creep. I need to get it on the bench to figure out what is going on.

The model 60 on the other hand would just flat out hit everything I was shooting at.

Mister BLASTEE
09-14-2011, 5:53 PM
I'd say 10-22. But if your looking at the Marlins the 795 is on sale at Big5 for $139 I belive

C_1
09-14-2011, 6:01 PM
I would suggest the Marlin 795/60 and Ruger 10/22. The Marlins could be had for $100-150 and the Rugers go for about $200-220.

aermotor
09-14-2011, 9:32 PM
Ruger 10/22
cons: many reviews say it needs work to be reliable, accuracy is questionable


Uhhhh..... you're joking right?

Needs work to be reliable? Errr, fail. Run decent ammo (Federal bulk) and it will run 100%.

Stock accuracy is insane. If anything, upgrade the sights if you have a problem but my friend is bonkers with the stock irons.

IMO the 10/22 is THE SINGLE .22 rifle to own. If I could only have one .22 it would be it. I think you are misinformed.



Don't get a Marlin 795, they don't even compare to the 10/22.

dtjester
09-14-2011, 9:43 PM
Don't get a Marlin 795, they don't even compare to the 10/22.

Lol

Dark Mod
09-14-2011, 9:54 PM
Dont forget about the tactical 22's, Mossberg makes a cheap one, S&W 15-22 is kinda cheap but much higher quality. Walther makes the G22 in a bullpup design if thats your bag. I have never heard any of the acuracy problems youve mentioned about the 10-22

10-22 is by far the most popular, its very well made but a little bland and utilitarian. I like a little more flash with my 22

aermotor
09-14-2011, 10:17 PM
Lol

Well hey don't.... I own one and it's great for a super cheap, lightweight plinker.... but it's not build anywhere near the same level as the 10/22.

77bawls
09-14-2011, 11:44 PM
Well hey don't.... I own one and it's great for a super cheap, lightweight plinker.... but it's not build anywhere near the same level as the 10/22.

http://de-motivational-posters.com/images/mall-ninja-you-are-not-as-invisible-as-you-think.jpg

b76
09-15-2011, 7:16 AM
Uhhhh..... you're joking right?

Needs work to be reliable? Errr, fail. Run decent ammo (Federal bulk) and it will run 100%.

Stock accuracy is insane. If anything, upgrade the sights if you have a problem but my friend is bonkers with the stock irons.

IMO the 10/22 is THE SINGLE .22 rifle to own. If I could only have one .22 it would be it. I think you are misinformed.



Don't get a Marlin 795, they don't even compare to the 10/22.

Honestly i agree. The 1022 is single handedly the best platform not because I'm bias necessarily. I just like all the mods. The out of box accuracy and reliability and the quality. I am not a huge fan of the marlins at all. But a 22 is a 22 an if u are determined enough like most of us are, due to modern day modifications and DIY'ers across the www your capable of creating a great weapon/ tack driver out of any 22 these days. So u can't really go wrong but I would go with a 1022 just me.

aermotor
09-15-2011, 10:55 AM
http://de-motivational-posters.com/images/mall-ninja-you-are-not-as-invisible-as-you-think.jpg

Uhhh, come again? because I speak the truth about the 795 vs. 10/22? They aren't even in the same ballpark. Tool.

dtjester
09-15-2011, 11:58 AM
Uhhh, come again? because I speak the truth about the 795 vs. 10/22? They aren't even in the same ballpark. Tool.

Ok, so maybe not in build or feel, but you're trying to say that in function/reliability/accuracy? That's pretty bold.

b76
09-15-2011, 12:50 PM
Uhhh, come again? because I speak the truth about the 795 vs. 10/22? They aren't even in the same ballpark. Tool.

Not in the same ballpark. I agree

VegasND
09-15-2011, 12:57 PM
Don't worry so much. If you're like most gun types you're going to end up owning several .22s anyway. Go ahead and get the 10/22; there's an almost limitless number of things you can do with it. Then get yourself one of the cheaper autoloaders when they're on sale.

Then get yourself a good, accurate bolt action with a quality scope on it.

And, of course, when you've saved up more money after buying all those we can talk about handguns.

axxent
09-15-2011, 2:11 PM
Don't worry so much. If you're like most gun types you're going to end up owning several .22s anyway. Go ahead and get the 10/22; there's an almost limitless number of things you can do with it. Then get yourself one of the cheaper autoloaders when they're on sale.

Then get yourself a good, accurate bolt action with a quality scope on it.

And, of course, when you've saved up more money after buying all those we can talk about handguns.

this sounds logical... and when I turn 21, or move to gun friendly state.... then we will talk handguns :D

as 77bawls mentioned earlier though, what is up with 1022 trigger? that is one of the "problems" that was mentioned on many forums. is that normal for the standard trigger? will I have to replace it soon, or is it one of those "replace if you feel the need"

TheExpertish
09-15-2011, 2:19 PM
Don't worry so much. If you're like most gun types you're going to end up owning several .22s anyway. Go ahead and get the 10/22; there's an almost limitless number of things you can do with it. Then get yourself one of the cheaper autoloaders when they're on sale.

Then get yourself a good, accurate bolt action with a quality scope on it.

And, of course, when you've saved up more money after buying all those we can talk about handguns.

+1. I have two 795 LTR's and plan on a CZ bolt action next. This is on top of my handguns and shotguns. The only thing you can be certain of is you will always be broke.

sirsloth
09-15-2011, 2:24 PM
I walked into Big 5 last week with the intention of buying the Savage 64XFP that was on sale but walked out with a (receipt for a) Ruger 10/22. I also gave the Marlin 795 a long look, but in the end, the Ruger just looked and felt nicer than both the other two. I also like how the magazine sits flush.

aermotor
09-15-2011, 2:32 PM
sirsloth: you won't be disappointed. First mods are the auto bolt release and extended mag release imo.

Slicendice
09-15-2011, 4:48 PM
I went through the same debate, 10/22 vs marlin 795. I'm picking up my 795 next week. Knowing myself, I'd spend too much $ on aftermarket parts if i got a 10/22. The Marlin 795 is cheap right now, big 5 and turners have it for $135 and there's a $25 mail-in rebate. Hop online and buy some mags, plinker scope, and a bipod, and still come out around the price of a 10/22.

77bawls
09-15-2011, 10:20 PM
This is going to be my next 22

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/images/zoom_60SS.jpg

BigBoyPinoy
09-15-2011, 10:58 PM
10-22 for all the various custom options both factory and aftermarket.

Marlin 60 for out of the box accuracy at a budget.

Marlin 39 great accuracy, old school style, take down.

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/kengulo/P1050027.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/kengulo/DSC00165-1.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/kengulo/P1020878.jpg

Cali-Shooter
09-16-2011, 10:03 AM
10/22 has the best aftermarket support, you can literally turn it into any configuration (within reason and our state's stupid laws) you want.
One of my big pluses for me wanting to get a 10/22 is the "tri-mag," which is three ten round mags connected to each other via a hub and when you reload, you just take it out, and insert it back from another magazine.

77bawls
09-16-2011, 11:24 PM
10/22 has the best aftermarket support, you can literally turn it into any configuration (within reason and our state's stupid laws) you want.
One of my big pluses for me wanting to get a 10/22 is the "tri-mag," which is three ten round mags connected to each other via a hub and when you reload, you just take it out, and insert it back from another magazine.

Do you have a link for that?

Cali-Shooter
09-16-2011, 11:32 PM
Do you have a link for that?

The tri-mag? I've seen them for sale here on CGN a while ago (1 1/2 years ago).

Cali-Shooter
09-16-2011, 11:34 PM
It's actually not a "tri-mag," that's just what I called it for lack of better words. TriMag is it's trademark name also, It's actually a "mag coupler," or in this case a "tripler," since it holds three 10 round mags. Here's a link to some:

http://www.cabelas.com/magazines-clips-alangator-trade-trimag-trade-factory-10-22-magazine-coupler-1.shtml

Ricky-Ray
09-16-2011, 11:42 PM
The tri-mag? I've seen them for sale here on CGN a while ago (1 1/2 years ago).

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=242144&highlight=trimag

Cali-Shooter
09-16-2011, 11:57 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=242144&highlight=trimag

Thanks, I knew someone would find that thread.

Cougar
09-17-2011, 6:58 AM
I've been thinking about a 10/22 for a while, but with Big 5's $139 (after $25 rebate), on the Marlin 795, how can you go wrong?

In my case, other than sights, I don't expect to be altering the 795. It will be a stock plinker.

My 795 was put into government required custody last night.

Big 5 folks are great, but, in going through the process (again) yesterday I was reminded of how idiotic and inane the government paperwork and process are. For which, I had the honor (??) of paying $25.

Plinkster22
09-17-2011, 1:31 PM
Was debating between the 10/22 and 795. I just put the 795 in jail this morning. In the end, the price is what swayed me towards the 795. For the price, I can mod the 795 and still end up below the price of a 10/22. The money saved can go towards ammo and mods.

Dutch3
09-17-2011, 3:33 PM
I have a Savage 64 with a cheap Barska scope. It is a tack driver on most days. The black plastic stock feels chintzy, but what the heck. It works well.

I have also been shooting a Marlin 60 that belongs to a friend. It is an older (1970's) variant with the longer barrel and mag tube. It holds about 20 rounds and is also very accurate. It has last round hold-open and a scope dovetail as standard features.

I owned a 10/22 about 20 years ago and liked it a lot. The 10/22s sold today are not the same as they used to be. Cheaper fit and finish and lack of overall feel. I am having a hard time justifying paying the premium for a 10/22 over a Marlin 60. The Marlin (and Savage) are dead accurate out of the box and have provisions for a scope mount. Less money, too.

510hunter
09-17-2011, 5:55 PM
Ya I just put a 795 in jail today also, from big5 and no you cant go wrong for 139. Im looking to maybe put a boyds wood stock on it after a while. Seen what it looks like, and I like it, plus with the price and the custom stock it will still be under the price of some stock 10/22's