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crazy
09-03-2011, 10:05 PM
I was just looking at the DOJ website and I clicked the link that said new laws for 2009 and lookie what I found, SB 962. Anyone looking at the page would be led to believe this was law and not overturned.


http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/2009bills.php


http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/index.php

MrClamperSir
09-03-2011, 10:18 PM
Interesting. It looks like intentional FUD.

locosway
09-03-2011, 10:24 PM
Why would this surprise anyone?

Their website has been known to contain wrong info pertaining to laws.

NoHeavyHitter
09-03-2011, 10:26 PM
Awe... come on folks - even the DOJ likes to dream sometimes.

Target19
09-03-2011, 10:46 PM
I was just looking at the DOJ website and I clicked the link that said new laws for 2009 and lookie what I found, SB 962. Anyone looking at the page would be led to believe this was law and not overturned.


http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/2009bills.php


http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/index.php

What would SB 962 be???
I'm sure it is not anywhere on that page.

crazy
09-03-2011, 10:53 PM
What would SB 962 be???
I'm sure it is not anywhere on that page.

It the first thing on the first link.

locosway
09-03-2011, 10:53 PM
It the first thing on the first link.

I think he's saying it's AB, not SB.

crazy
09-03-2011, 10:59 PM
My error. I wrote SB not AB. That makes my whole post worthless. Thanks for pointing it out.

BannedinBritain
09-04-2011, 4:06 AM
From an agency that prides itself on disseminating confusing and contradictory information, what would you expect? When "son of 962" gets passed, they'll simply make a couple edits to the web page.

GrizzlyGuy
09-04-2011, 5:07 AM
What they say is true:

Effective January 1, 2010, unless otherwise noted, the California Penal Code (PC) will include new and amended California firearms laws. This bulletin provides a brief summary of these changes in law.

AB 962 is now in the penal code (much of it here in 12061 (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12061.html)). What they fail to mention is that a court ruled it unconstitutionally vague. This is more of a lie by omission.

CHS
09-04-2011, 6:52 AM
AB 962 is now in the penal code (much of it here in 12061 (http://law.onecle.com/california/penal/12061.html)). What they fail to mention is that a court ruled it unconstitutionally vague. This is more of a lie by omission.

Came in here to say exactly this.

AB962 is in fact law, even though it can not be enforced due to the court declaring it unconstitutionally vague.

It will remain as law until a bill is passed repealing its section. Politicians don't ever like to admit they are wrong, so they'll never repeal it.

Same with SB23, the penal code still says that "AR and AK SERIES" guns are illegal but you don't see anyone getting prosecuted for lawfully configured off-list "AR Series" rifles. That language was ruled unlawful but still plagues the penal code.

Librarian
09-04-2011, 11:48 AM
Asked and answered.