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Danz la Nuit
09-01-2011, 10:22 PM
Is there a thread/page that is tracking the progress of the San Diego CCW legal fight?

A thread/page that is being continuously updated?

I think I could use such a resource to facilitate donations from friends to the CGF

Maestro Pistolero
09-01-2011, 10:52 PM
See the Peruta thread here.

Danz la Nuit
09-01-2011, 11:56 PM
See the Peruta thread here.

This thread?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=439859

BTW is there a way to make a contribution to the specific San Diego effort?

monk
09-02-2011, 12:34 AM
This thread?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=439859

BTW is there a way to make a contribution to the specific San Diego effort?

I believe you can sponsor a county for the Sunshine initiative.

Maestro Pistolero
09-02-2011, 12:46 AM
Yes. See also Richards vs Prieto, as this is really a statewide (and federal, for that matter) battle http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=451451

Crom
09-02-2011, 8:42 AM
If you wanted to support Peruta specifically you should donate money to CRPA Foundation (http://www.crpa.org/dept.aspx?dept_id=06), as the legal fees are being paid by them. Richards is a CGF/SAF case, and you can donate to CGF (http://calgunsfoundation.org/resources/ccw-initiative/fundraising-goal-status.html) through the sunshine initiative to support that case or SAF. (http://www.saf.org/default.asp?p=safdonation)

Right now Peruta and Richards (the two California License to Carry (LTC) legal cases) are in the U.S. 9th circuit court of appeals. The cases are similar but have different legal arguments. Legal briefs are being filed by Appellants (us), and the appellees (County Sheriffs) . A court schedule with calendar dates will be set for the cases, then oral arguments, and finally a ruling from the court.

Because these cases are operating in the 9th circuit, a ruling will be binding in all the states in yellow.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ELsfQm2PRw/TmD43X111YI/AAAAAAABE7A/5NJLWFI1gQo/u.s.circuit.ca.jpg

Here is how federal cases escalate.

U.S. District Court --> U.S. Court of Appeals --> (Sometimes En Banc Review) --> U.S. Supreme Court.

See the Wiki (http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/index.php/Litigation_Past_and_Present#How_the_Federal_Courts _work) for a better summary of how the federal courts work.

BTW, I checked in PACER, and there is nothing new to report about Peruta or Richards at this time.

G60
09-02-2011, 8:48 AM
Psst, it's an LTC.

HowardW56
09-02-2011, 8:52 AM
Psst, it's an LTC.


:facepalm:

Peaceful John
09-02-2011, 9:04 AM
Crom, you sure do make things understandable. Wish I had you for
high school algebra.

Crom
09-02-2011, 10:26 AM
John, Thanks for the compliment. Much of what I know has been learned in this very sub forum. The rest was learned from hundreds of hours of reading the interweb. ;)

TheExpertish
09-02-2011, 1:28 PM
Per the CRPA Facebook page:

"CRPAF is itself currently before the Ninth Circuit, litigating its own challenge to prohibitory local CCW permitting policies. Briefing in that case, Peruta v. San Diego, will be completed onASeptember 6, 2011. "

GMG
09-02-2011, 2:15 PM
Is there a thread/page that is tracking the progress of the San Diego CCW legal fight?

A thread/page that is being continuously updated?

I think I could use such a resource to facilitate donations from friends to the CGF

Instead of CCW it's LTC.

Glock22Fan
09-02-2011, 2:19 PM
Instead of CCW it's LTC.

Maybe you should tell CRPA, they are the ones that say they are fighting the local CCW battle.

What amuses me is that by insisting on LTC, CalGuns is, maybe only to a slight degree, lowering its Google (and other search engines) profile for people searching for California CCW sites.

bwiese
09-02-2011, 3:18 PM
Maybe you should tell CRPA, they are the ones that say they are fighting the local CCW battle.

What amuses me is that by insisting on LTC, CalGuns is, maybe only to a slight degree, lowering its Google (and other search engines) profile for people searching for California CCW sites.

1. We have discussed this with CRPA and expect this will change
over time.

2. The reduction in profile for search engines is less important than
the semiotics involved in terminology change related to litigation...

Drivedabizness
09-02-2011, 4:49 PM
Somewhat OT - but relevant in a way...why is the 9th so packed from a population standpoint? CA at 36M (+ however many million "undocumented") is far more by itself than a number of the other circuits.
Once we get a better President, I'd love to see CA split off into a new circuit with a new slate of judges (of course, that would leave the rest of the current 9th hosed)

Glock22Fan
09-02-2011, 4:52 PM
1. We have discussed this with CRPA and expect this will change
over time.

2. The reduction in profile for search engines is less important than
the semiotics involved in terminology change related to litigation...

Doubleplusgood.