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Gryff
08-30-2011, 5:41 PM
SB 819 (Redirection of Dealer Record of Sales Fee (DROS)) has gone to the Governor's desk for signature. Please contact Governor Brown's office immediately requesting that he veto this bill.

Click to email the Governor (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=cmskahdab&et=1107393956430&s=3172&e=001exqNnRzHzEleExfieeJb_rLJQgkGseVTtyV1rQJ42MwEp 97WTq7GxsCcuaABriDu9geEhTClX6J8yOclrpzpJ4qBHf6nG99 robxLcMrE3Nmbd8s-Zi0bBFZSa-kXqvwI)

Note that DROS fees were originally intended to off-set the cost of background checks to make sure that prohibited person do not acquire firearms. The use of these fees for other purposes effectively make them an illegal tax. Therefore, this bill will result in additional costs for the State because they are going to have to fight the resulting lawsuits (and probably lose).

From a CRPA email sent out today:

Urgent! It's Time to Call and Write the Governor on SB 819!

SB 819 passed out of the Assembly and onto the governor's desk. This is our last chance to defeat SB 819! Please call, write, and/or email the governor and urge a VETO on SB 819. Contact information for the governor's office is included below.

SB 819 - Redirection of Dealer Record of Sales Fee (DROS)

CRPA Position: Oppose

URGE THE GOVERNOR TO VETO SB 819
SB 819 would allow the state Department of Justice (DOJ) to raid the DROS and take "excess" money to pay for local enforcement of laws related to firearms possession. The primary purpose of the DROS fee paid by every firearms purchaser is to fund the purchaser background checks performed by the Department of Justice. DROS fund fees are a fee for service and should be used for their intended purpose: background checks. The concern is that the DROS fund will be depleted and soon require an increased DROS fee for all firearms purchasers.


CRPA and NRA are working hard to defeat SB 819 from every angle. In addition to lobbying efforts, a law suit has also been filed by CRPA and NRA to block the illegal use of DROS fees as proposed by SB 819.

We need your help defeat SB 819 now. Use the collective power of your CRPA membership and take action now. Make your voice heard at the state capitol! Don't let anti-gun legislation disassemble your firearms rights piece by piece!


GOVERNOR'S OFFICE CONTACT INFORMATION
Click to email Governor Jerry Brown (http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?llr=cmskahdab&et=1107393956430&s=3172&e=001exqNnRzHzEleExfieeJb_rLJQgkGseVTtyV1rQJ42MwEp 97WTq7GxsCcuaABriDu9geEhTClX6J8yOclrpzpJ4qBHf6nG99 robxLcMrE3Nmbd8s-Zi0bBFZSa-kXqvwI)

Mailing address:
Governor Jerry Brown
c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814

Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160

taperxz
08-30-2011, 5:55 PM
Done

taperxz
08-30-2011, 5:56 PM
Please veto sb819, dros fees are to only be used for their intended purpose. NOT for law enforcement.

almaster666
08-30-2011, 6:01 PM
done

NotEnufGarage
08-30-2011, 6:09 PM
Done!

oakiepokie
08-30-2011, 6:21 PM
Done, but this thread needs to be everywhere so that other Calgunners can get involved en masse in a timely response! 4 emails to the Governor is not going to sway him!

(I posted a thread in the rifle section to get the word out...link (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=472542))

mbuna
08-30-2011, 6:22 PM
done

Bhobbs
08-30-2011, 6:27 PM
Done.

VAReact
08-30-2011, 6:58 PM
Done-ski

Chosen_1
08-30-2011, 7:06 PM
Done.

BanjoGunner
08-30-2011, 7:09 PM
Done.

morfeeis
08-30-2011, 7:27 PM
done

HowardW56
08-30-2011, 7:40 PM
Done

GMG
08-30-2011, 7:45 PM
Done !

ZirconJohn
08-30-2011, 7:47 PM
Check :thumbsup:

safewaysecurity
08-30-2011, 7:52 PM
Done. I think I wrote a pretty nice letter.

Fastattack
08-30-2011, 7:57 PM
Done. But, .... am I the only one here who gets all the urgent emails to contact my representative (or Governor) and I know in my heart that it makes absolutely no difference? I know how my representative will vote regardless of how many letters I send. Depressing.

oakiepokie
08-30-2011, 8:31 PM
Done. But, .... am I the only one here who gets all the urgent emails to contact my representative (or Governor) and I know in my heart that it makes absolutely no difference? I know how my representative will vote regardless of how many letters I send. Depressing.


No, you are not the only one. But if we act as a group our power goes from a single voter whose power may not make much of a difference to a mass of folks who can "sway" our elected officials. The key is to be organized as a unit and not as an individual. That's why it's so important to do this when called upon. I can assure you that a politician will change his/her mind if enough constituents complaint about an issue. The worst thing we can do is to stay silent.

vonderplatz
08-30-2011, 8:34 PM
Done! I have read on this board where some believe Jerry is Pro Gun, so we'll soon find out, but I don't think they are going to turn down a new revenue source.

jb7706
08-30-2011, 8:39 PM
Done and done.

SideWinder11
08-30-2011, 8:50 PM
Done! I have read on this board where some believe Jerry is Pro Gun, so we'll soon find out, but I don't think they are going to turn down a new revenue source.

Yes we will......

turrican
08-30-2011, 8:58 PM
Done.

EdCo
08-30-2011, 9:07 PM
Done

Deuce350
08-30-2011, 9:07 PM
Done.

wjc
08-30-2011, 9:30 PM
Done

guntntteacher
08-30-2011, 9:46 PM
Done

highpowermatch
08-30-2011, 9:49 PM
Done

Meplat
08-30-2011, 10:39 PM
Dear Governor Brown

VETO
SB-819
It is an illegal tax and will cost the state dearly
Due to litigation the state will ultimately lose.


Xxxx Xxxxxx

Fresno, CA.





DONE;)

jshoebot
08-30-2011, 10:45 PM
Done. So tired of our legislators.

Firepower45
08-30-2011, 10:47 PM
Done.

nick
08-30-2011, 10:50 PM
Done.

Krak
08-30-2011, 11:03 PM
Done.

mossy
08-30-2011, 11:21 PM
done

ErikTheRed
08-30-2011, 11:21 PM
Whoa whoa whoa, whats the all the distress about? Everyone just RELAX!!! Don't you all know we elected a pro-gun governor in Jerry Brown? Remember? There are countless Brown supporters on this website, many of them "big wigs" 'round these parts, who assured us that we have nothing to fear in Brown when it comes to 2A issues. So just relax, take a deep breath, and calm down. Ol' Jerry wouldn't dissappoint us. After all, thats why so many pro-gunners voted for the guy. So no need for all the fuss, and no need to send e-mails urging him not to sign this piece of crap. Right?

Low-Pressure
08-30-2011, 11:28 PM
done

send it_hit
08-30-2011, 11:30 PM
sent. i have several friends doing the same.

thanks for the heads up.

:grouphug:

safewaysecurity
08-30-2011, 11:44 PM
Honestly I don't think Jerry Brown will Veto this. I mean it raises revenues ( which the dems love ) and it does it on the back of gun owners and makes t harder for them to get them. It's a win-win for them. He could easily pass this off as him being a "deficit hawk" or some BS like that. And saying that this measure would not burden the right and that it would actually be good for law abiding gun owners in the state because it would fund the guys that put the illegal gun owners in jail or something like that. I see this passing.

oakiepokie
08-31-2011, 1:26 AM
Honestly I don't think Jerry Brown will Veto this. I mean it raises revenues ( which the dems love ) and it does it on the back of gun owners and makes t harder for them to get them. It's a win-win for them. He could easily pass this off as him being a "deficit hawk" or some BS like that. And saying that this measure would not burden the right and that it would actually be good for law abiding gun owners in the state because it would fund the guys that put the illegal gun owners in jail or something like that. I see this passing.

It may pass or not, but the point is to let them know that we don't approve of it. We better start getting LOUD 'cause more crap is coming from Sacramento!

cbaer5
08-31-2011, 1:29 AM
SENT

Anchors
08-31-2011, 1:34 AM
What happens if they drain the surplus in the account and then the fees get owned in the current court case?
Then there won't be money left to keep the DROS system supporting itself.

Is that good or bad? Either way, email sent.

Meplat
08-31-2011, 1:48 AM
What happens if they drain the surplus in the account and then the fees get owned in the current court case?
Then there won't be money left to keep the DROS system supporting itself.

Is that good or bad? Either way, email sent.

They could then probably get away with raising the DROS fee even higher.:(

radioburning
08-31-2011, 2:07 AM
Done

therealsundance
08-31-2011, 7:01 AM
Done.

cmth
08-31-2011, 7:26 AM
I wouldn't mind if DROS went away. I'd rather not pay the DROS fees if I could avoid it. NICS is still mandatory nationwide, so there would still be background checks, but DROS going away would remove the California bureaucracy from it. If the government wants to give us an avenue to challenge one of their unconstitutional laws, then it's not my place to stand in their way.

sacto929
08-31-2011, 7:31 AM
Done.

Apocalypsenerd
08-31-2011, 8:00 AM
Done:

"Please veto SB 819.

For years, California gun owners have been forced to pay fees/taxes in excess of legal limits on gun purchases. Those excessive fees are used to fund DOJ operations that should be paid for out of general funds. SB 819 will allow the DOJ to raid these illegally gained excesses and use them on. activities that they were never meant for.

Please veto SB819

Thank you,

Aaron Ross"

jrwhitt
08-31-2011, 8:13 AM
Done

SanPedroShooter
08-31-2011, 8:13 AM
PLEASE VETO SB 819

Governor Brown,

I am a conservative libertarian that voted for you anyway, based on your amicus brief in Heller v DC and your stance on private firearm ownership, one of America's first freedoms.

Please veto SB 819 and stop the illegal diversion of DROS funds. As you know gun owners in our state labor under some of the most arbitrary and capricious (and occasionaly damn silly) gun laws in the nation, everthing from so called "assault weapon" bans to "not unsafe" handgun shakedown schemes. Almost every gun law in California is inteded to chill the exercise of the Second Amendment freedoms we are supposed to enjoy in this country, the DROS process is no different. DROS fees should be LOWERED, in line with what most states pay to do a NICS FBI check, a process that takes minutes, but somehow California gun buyers must wait ten (10) days and pay $25 bucks....

"SB 819 would allow the state Department of Justice (DOJ) to raid the DROS and take "excess" money to pay for local enforcement of laws related to firearms possession. The primary purpose of the DROS fee paid by every firearms purchaser is to fund the purchaser background checks performed by the Department of Justice. DROS fund fees are a fee for service and should be used for their intended purpose: background checks. The concern is that the DROS fund will be depleted and soon require an increased DROS fee for all firearms purchasers."

This will be the first gun bill to cross your desk. Please show gun owners and their families that our votes for you were justified.

Thank you,

Brenton Adams
San Pedro, CA
NRA, CRPA, SAF, CGF and USCG Veteran

SoCalLA
08-31-2011, 8:14 AM
Subject: SB 819

Dear Governor Brown,

I do not frequently write, but felt compelled when I found SB 819 made its way to your desk.

Allowing "excess" funds to be reappropriated has been a continual problem for our government for generations (i.e. Social Security). While DROS fees for background checks is merely a drop in the ocean of our challenges, it is my understanding that you are seeking wholesale changes in the operation of California that will provide our State with a framework for a financially sustainable future.

Vetoing SB 819 is an opportunity to show Californians that you will not continue the legacy of government consumption of tax and fee payers money for the whims and overspending of officials and departments.

I implore you to set a precedent and hold our State fund allocations accountable with the rigor that they deserve and require, veto SB 819.

Thank You"

maddoggie13
08-31-2011, 8:15 AM
Done...Done...

movie zombie
08-31-2011, 8:18 AM
done.

johnny_22
08-31-2011, 8:32 AM
Email sent.

mag360
08-31-2011, 8:39 AM
email sent. Kept it simple short and sweet.

longhairchris
08-31-2011, 8:44 AM
Done! I wonder if anyone will read it, but it felt good to send.

AragornElessar86
08-31-2011, 8:48 AM
Done.

hawk1
08-31-2011, 8:57 AM
Whoa whoa whoa, whats the all the distress about? Everyone just RELAX!!! Don't you all know we elected a pro-gun governor in Jerry Brown? Remember? There are countless Brown supporters on this website, many of them "big wigs" 'round these parts, who assured us that we have nothing to fear in Brown when it comes to 2A issues. So just relax, take a deep breath, and calm down. Ol' Jerry wouldn't dissappoint us. After all, thats why so many pro-gunners voted for the guy. So no need for all the fuss, and no need to send e-mails urging him not to sign this piece of crap. Right?

butt hurt alert.

He has a valid point.
For you to reply in that way, that's not needed or acceptable.
We'll all see soon who's side he's on...


EDIT: Email sent

fonso
08-31-2011, 8:58 AM
Done!

morrcarr67
08-31-2011, 9:01 AM
Done



Dear Governor Brown

VETO

SB-819

DROS fees are to only be used for their intended purpose. NOT for law enforcement.

Also, It would create an illegal tax and will cost the state dearly due to litigation the state will ultimately lose.


XXXXX X. XXXXXXXX
Registered Voter
Ontario, CA 91764

sarabellum
08-31-2011, 9:46 AM
Thanks, Gryff, I will be sending a fax to the Governor today:

Governor Jerry Brown
c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814

Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160

Uxi
08-31-2011, 9:54 AM
Done

Crom
08-31-2011, 10:02 AM
Done.

Wherryj
08-31-2011, 10:22 AM
Dear Governor Brown

VETO
SB-819
It is an illegal tax and will cost the state dearly
Due to litigation the state will ultimately lose.


Xxxx Xxxxxx

Fresno, CA.




DONE;)
Done. Hopefully Governor Brown will understand the financial risks of this bill, especially as a lawyer who should see the eventual outcome of this bill.

baseacegoku
08-31-2011, 10:33 AM
done!

BlindRacer
08-31-2011, 10:42 AM
Sent...

SB 819 - Redirection of Dealer Record of Sales Fee (DROS)

This bill requires your veto. DROS fees were originally intended to off-set the cost of background checks to make sure that prohibited person do not acquire firearms. The use of these fees for other purposes effectively make them an illegal tax. Therefore, this bill will result in additional costs for the State because they are going to have to fight the inevitable resulting lawsuits.

DROS accounts are at a drastic surplus, even though the funds are already being used illegally for other purposes. By signing this bill into law, you will be contributing to the unlawful use of funds.

Many pro gun rights Californians voted you into office, because they believed you would preserve our Constitutionally protected civil right to defend ourselves. Signing this bill will show your true colors, and will be devastating for your re-election.

Sincerely,

strega7
08-31-2011, 11:27 AM
Done

Meplat
08-31-2011, 11:34 AM
Done

Nice additions.;)

Shellshocker66
08-31-2011, 11:34 AM
Done!

goodlookin1
08-31-2011, 11:57 AM
Done

ckprax
08-31-2011, 12:23 PM
Done

RudyN
08-31-2011, 12:25 PM
Taken care of.

Sent from the local telegraph office

SASchnell
08-31-2011, 12:33 PM
Done


---
I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.248946,-121.859241

winxp_man
08-31-2011, 12:39 PM
Taken care of.

Sent from the local telegraph office


Sent it through Morris Code :eek: :D

SanPedroShooter
08-31-2011, 12:43 PM
Smoke signals and war drums...

Wherryj
08-31-2011, 1:45 PM
Done! I wonder if anyone will read it, but it felt good to send.

At least Brown seems to be one of the few CA politicians who can read.

"you're saying that there's a chance?"

http://youtu.be/gqdNe8u-Jsg

unusedusername
08-31-2011, 1:54 PM
Sent, and queued for the NRA MC mailing lists.

gobler
08-31-2011, 2:10 PM
Done


Sent from my iPod touch using Tapatalk

JSolie
08-31-2011, 2:17 PM
Done!

Brianguy
08-31-2011, 2:33 PM
Assignment Completed.

Wolfie_AR
08-31-2011, 3:33 PM
Done!

Zachs300zx
08-31-2011, 3:47 PM
Done

TheExpertish
08-31-2011, 4:06 PM
Done. So tired of our legislators.

You and me both. I love all the quotes of these inept elected officials who write these bills and couldn't name more than 2-3 parts of a gun to save their lives.

cHaOs ReX
08-31-2011, 4:06 PM
Done

02psd
08-31-2011, 4:19 PM
Done.

monk
08-31-2011, 4:51 PM
Done last night. Is there a certain amount of time that the Governor has to sign it or is it one of those "Whenever he gets a chance" type of deals?

barthel
08-31-2011, 4:52 PM
Done

Firemanmario
08-31-2011, 5:10 PM
Done

Schrodinger's Cat
08-31-2011, 5:47 PM
Done! Felt good.

Zeke003
08-31-2011, 5:57 PM
Done.

1Fastrider
08-31-2011, 6:14 PM
sent

socal2310
08-31-2011, 6:41 PM
Sent the email last night.

This will be our first chance to see whether voting for him was a good thing (with regard to 2A freedoms) as opposed to merely the lesser of two evils won't it?

Ryan

6172crew
08-31-2011, 6:51 PM
Done-ski!

sl4ck3r
08-31-2011, 7:02 PM
done

Hoologan
08-31-2011, 7:02 PM
Done.

shooter777
08-31-2011, 7:43 PM
Thank You, Folks, for helping me stay informed. Sent it!!

Boo_Radley
08-31-2011, 7:49 PM
Done. It only hurt a little.

Pablo22
08-31-2011, 8:31 PM
Done - thanks for bringing it to my attention.

adrenaline
08-31-2011, 10:27 PM
Done!!!!!

Arondos
09-01-2011, 12:56 AM
Add another to the list. Sent

radioman
09-01-2011, 2:00 AM
I did my part. lets hope he does his.

mofugly13
09-01-2011, 6:41 AM
check

SideWinder11
09-02-2011, 9:58 AM
I sent my email days ago but when will we know if this was signed or vetoed?

jrr
09-02-2011, 10:15 AM
Done. Wrote a long winded email.. but it was cathartic. lol.

MatrixCPA
09-02-2011, 10:19 AM
Done

gun toting monkeyboy
09-02-2011, 11:08 AM
Done. I doubt anybody will actually read it before they hit the "delete" key, but hopefully they at least tally it in when they are counting the public's mood on such things.

-Mb

BluNorthern
09-02-2011, 11:21 AM
Done.
I mailed it under subject....'Other'.
Figured if I used the taxes or gun control choices they would delete it out of hand without bothering to read it.

Gryff
09-02-2011, 11:25 AM
Done. I doubt anybody will actually read it before they hit the "delete" key, but hopefully they at least tally it in when they are counting the public's mood on such things.

Actually, I disagree. Idiots like Feinstein and Boxer could care less about pro-gun comments, but most other politicians at least record Support/Oppose counts so that they have a feel of what the voting population is thinking. It gives them an idea of how extreme they can or cannot be.

It may not change the minds of the die-hards, but it can have an effect on those with some moderate tendencies. This is why EVERY GUN OWNER needs to submit these comments whenever possible. Without them, the liberals have no reason to second-guess their naturally stupid tendencies.

MustangGreg66
09-02-2011, 12:22 PM
email sent. This thread needs some kind of poll or counter to see how many people have emailed so far.

MatrixCPA
09-02-2011, 1:12 PM
I posted the following on Facebook....despite the fact a number of my friends are the type to post links to Huffington Post junk as often as not:

I ask my friends in California to contact Governor Brown at http://gov.ca.gov/m_contact.php to ask him to veto SB 816. Regardless of your feelings about firearms, this is about taking fees intended for a purpose and redirecting them simply because there is a surplus. The solution to this type of "problem" is lower the fee not find a new reason to keep citizens' money.

Toolbox X
09-02-2011, 1:16 PM
Sent.

Please vote no on SB 819.

Firearm DROS fees are for doing criminal background checks, not for anything else. Directing DROS money to other departments and uses weakens the California's ability to perform fast and accurate background checks, and increases the likelihood of criminals slipping through the DROS system.

Sincerely,
Ulysses Early

WileyWilly
09-02-2011, 1:40 PM
Done

darkwater
09-02-2011, 2:55 PM
I posted the following on Facebook....despite the fact a number of my friends are the type to post links to Huffington Post junk as often as not:

If your FB post has "816" in it, better correct that to "819"!

advocatusdiaboli
09-02-2011, 5:41 PM
Done. But it won't matter.

Politicians, and Brown is a pro at this, are experts are reading the zeitgeist in their constituency in order to stay "electable" and "un-recallable".

California is increasingly becoming an un-firearm friendly state meaning the majority (by their voting habits) don't support firearms rights. So the Legislature and the governor will heed nothing we say. We are not important any more.

I'll keep funding the organizations who will fund our attempts to win this in the courts. I have given up on our elected officials and their pandering to fear for selfish gain and retention of power. If we'll have any victory at all, we'll have it , as any minority does, in the courts. That's our best alternative to public fear of the Second Amendment which we cannot fight nor win against in this increasingly urbanized society fearful of firearms.

And yes that is a profound disappointment because courts fights take years and , if recent SCOTUS victories are any indication, take years and years. Welcome to the new land of the free home of the brave: shell and mockery of what once was.

bronsht
09-02-2011, 7:35 PM
I wrote the governor asking him to veto the bill.
bronsht

ShooterDK
09-02-2011, 8:01 PM
Done.

Jason P
09-02-2011, 8:30 PM
Done:

Dear Mr. Brown:

I am very anti-gun control. My family is as well. I come from a long line of veterans, and my circle of friends are also like-minded. We feel that the only gun control that should exist is the people's control over the guns in the hands of our government, as the FRAMERS intended.

There are a couple of bills on your desk that I and the people I love and trust are watching very closely. We urge you to veto SB 819! This is blatant misappropriation of funds, and is an unconstitutional tax. I'm sure you are aware that the Second Amendment Foundation, the NRA and the California Rifle and Pistol Association are going to trounce this in court if it passes. YOU need to save the taxpayers the expense and veto this bill ASAP.

Secondly, we strongly urge you to sign SB 610. While this bill doesn't afford the freedoms or level of licensing we demand and will have eventually, it does streamline the whole CCW process, and is a step in the right direction. If you really want to be a dear, you can repeal the Mulford Act.

The people have been told that you are pro-gun, that you are a friend to the 2nd Amendment. We will be watching closely to see if that is true, or if that's just more political posturing. You have the opportunity to step into and occupy a small footprint in the shadows of the men who created our country, use it. Too many men and women have sacrificed their lives for the freedoms we were guaranteed, to see politicians ruin that most beautiful thing, America.

Enough damage has been done. The people are tired. A recent poll from Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from August 29 to August 31 reveals that 51% of Americans believe that we will have political uprising in America in the next 10 years. I fear that may be optimistic. The reality is that we are standing at the precipice of democracy and socialism. And one of the key elements to the power and success of our Republic has been our right to keep and bear arms.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/09/01/fox-news-poll-51-expect-major-political-uprisings-in-us-in-next-ten-years/#ixzz1Wr87Ju8E

Now you are being asked to honor your commitment to the 2nd Amendment, and all other civil rights, and do the right thing in regards to these bills. OPPOSE SB 819, and SIGN INTO LAW SB 610.

Thank you for your time, and God Bless you and yours.

Jason P
09-02-2011, 8:30 PM
Dupe

thedrse
09-03-2011, 2:13 AM
Done... hope he cares to listen!

locosway
09-04-2011, 12:00 AM
done

SideWinder11
09-05-2011, 5:27 PM
So what's the update? Did JB veto it or are we still waiting?

notme92069
09-05-2011, 8:34 PM
Done

GW
09-05-2011, 9:03 PM
And...
Done

krushem2000
09-05-2011, 9:09 PM
done and requested veto of SB 819

wikidklown
09-05-2011, 9:23 PM
Done

Can'thavenuthingood
09-05-2011, 9:24 PM
Done it. Looks like still not addressed on his site (http://gov.ca.gov/news.php?id=17192).

Vick

modernchaos
09-05-2011, 9:38 PM
Done

nrgcruizer
09-05-2011, 10:10 PM
Done.

GUNFREAK
09-05-2011, 10:39 PM
done

monk
09-05-2011, 10:42 PM
Anyone think he'll just let the 30 days run out so that it becomes law but doesn't have his blessings?

hawk1
09-06-2011, 7:42 AM
Anyone think he'll just let the 30 days run out so that it becomes law but doesn't have his blessings?

I would say that by doing that, it would have his blessings...;)

Gryff
09-06-2011, 7:45 AM
Anyone think he'll just let the 30 days run out so that it becomes law but doesn't have his blessings?

This is what I've found:

During session, governor must sign or veto legislation within 12 days of the day of transmittal, or it becomes law without signature. However, if the 12th day is a Sunday or a holiday, governor has until next working day to act. Governor has until September 30 to sign or veto legislation in his/her possession on the day legislature adjourns (usually August 31), or legislation becomes law without signature.

I always thought that if he doesn't sign it, it doesn't become a law.

johnny_22
09-06-2011, 8:36 AM
Governor Brown does not have SB819 (Leno) as an automatic option. You need to call when they are open (9 AM) to talk to a live person.

Help me make the call automatic. A flood of calls on SB819 should get the job done.

IPSICK
09-08-2011, 9:39 AM
Anything new? Looks like he vetoed a few bills already, but none seem to be gun related.

jonyg
09-08-2011, 10:27 AM
done.

Drivedabizness
09-08-2011, 11:20 AM
In CA, unless the Gov vetoes, bills passed become law (90+% sure)

Librarian
09-08-2011, 11:31 AM
In CA, unless the Gov vetoes, bills passed become law (90+% sure)

Right - Article 4 of the CA Constitution: SEC. 10. (a) Each bill passed by the Legislature shall be presented
to the Governor. It becomes a statute if it is signed by the
Governor. The Governor may veto it by returning it with any
objections to the house of origin, which shall enter the objections
in the journal and proceed to reconsider it. If each house then
passes the bill by rollcall vote entered in the journal, two-thirds
of the membership concurring, it becomes a statute.
(b) (1) Any bill, other than a bill which would establish or
change boundaries of any legislative, congressional, or other
election district, passed by the Legislature on or before the date
the Legislature adjourns for a joint recess to reconvene in the
second calendar year of the biennium of the legislative session, and
in the possession of the Governor after that date, that is not
returned within 30 days after that date becomes a statute.
(2) Any bill passed by the Legislature before September 1 of the
second calendar year of the biennium of the legislative session and
in the possession of the Governor on or after September 1 that is not
returned on or before September 30 of that year becomes a statute.
(3) Any other bill presented to the Governor that is not returned
within 12 days becomes a statute.