View Full Version : Need powder advice

01-22-2007, 8:24 PM
I'm looking for a good multi use powder to use in both .308 and .223. I plan on reloading 165 gr. 308 and 62 gr. .223. This isn't going to be super competition ammo, just plinking and stock piling for it the Anti-Christ wins the 08 election. Also what brand of powder does Turners stock?

01-22-2007, 8:27 PM
Don't know about 308, but WW748 is my powder of choice for 223.

01-22-2007, 8:28 PM
Varget has been the go to powder for .308 for a long time and works great in .223 for heavy bullets.

But quite a few people have migrated over to RL15 due to lot to lot inconsistencies in Varget.

I have started to use RL15 heavily in .223 and anticipate using it in .308 as well. Though, I have yet to make a new load in .308 for my Savage bolt gun.

Turners stocks a diverse selection of powder, usually. Hodgdon, IMR, Alliant, Winchester, etc. Although, their prices are incredibly high. $25 per lb.

Fowler's charges $21 a lb. The gun show is up to $20 a lb.

01-22-2007, 9:18 PM
Been using Varget and Tac with good results.

01-22-2007, 10:04 PM
I run with 2230 depending on your barrel lenth in the .308 you will be fine. Works great in 223 as well

01-23-2007, 8:37 AM
Powder Valley online will be hard to beat, although you need to order enough to offset the hazmat fee. Do a search on single and double based powders, the double based run hotter and are harder on your barrel. I shot two rifles with identical Hart barrels, a .308 with IMR 4064 (single based) and a 6.5X55 Swedish Mauser with Reloder 22 ( double based), roughly the same number of rounds. The throat on the 6.5x55 was much farther eroded than the .308.

01-23-2007, 10:21 AM
There's always the tried and true 4895s.

01-23-2007, 12:40 PM
H335 has always been my common go to powder for both calibers. It works real nice in the 30-30 also (which is why I bought it in the first place). I have a fair amount of IMR 4895 and it is quite accurate in my 308 bolt gun and is only ok in the 223 since you almost need a compressed load to work most semi-auto's. It can get inconsistent in the fact that the 223 is difficult to get a full case full of it. I tend to use ball powder when loading the 223 for ease and stick powders for the 308.

I've heard good things about Varget but have not had the chance to try some. If you can still find it.. WC 846 is good for 308 and WC844 is good for 223. Since they are not can grade powders but Mil Surplus, you need to be especially careful to work your loads up after every lot change.


01-23-2007, 12:52 PM
Since someone mentioned WC844, I just wanted to say that I could not get WC844 to shoot 77gr SMKs in an 18" SPR barrel with any decent accuracy. I tried regular primers, magnum primers, and benchrest primers. It just wasn't happening.

01-23-2007, 1:28 PM
Somebody makes "benchrest" primers? How do they differ from other primers?

01-23-2007, 2:38 PM
I would say either 4895 or BL-C(2).

Difference in benchrest (match) versus regular primers differ in the manufacturing process where supposedly more exact amounts of the priming compound is used in each primers and tighter spec used in the primer cup construction.

01-23-2007, 2:39 PM
Somebody makes "benchrest" primers? How do they differ from other primers?

My understanding, when it comes to CCI, is the workers they use to produce the bench rest primers started on the standard primer production line to gain experience and then demonstrated a talent for attention to detail and thoroughness. The bench rest primers are supposed to be very consistent from primer to primer so the workers that produce the primer compund have to be able to demonstrate that their work is very repeatable. I don't know how much of this is marketing but it's what I have read in the past.

As far as a powder, I have been using Hodgdon BL-C(2) and have had very good results with 55 grain V-Max, Ballistic Tips and Matchkings in .223 as well as 150 and 165 grain Hornady SST, 150 and 165 grain Ballistic Tips and 168 grain Matchkings.

I've also used Win 748 for the above mentioned and received the same good results. I've used Varget for .223 and this was excellent as well except the extruded (stick) powder doesn't meeter through my powder measure very smoothly. Not anything terrible its just that ball powder meeters through my powder measure much better.

01-23-2007, 4:20 PM
Mil Surp WC846, same thing as BL-C2, is available from Pat's Reloading for about $85/8 lbs. Hard to beat the price.