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FrankG
08-25-2011, 10:39 PM
I think im good to go on open carring on ocean beach only in sf. Looking around it is part of the national parks and judging by this (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=186457) im good to go. Open arry at the beach you might ask... I want to have a fire at night there and there can be some unsavory types that also like to have fires and get drunk (i will not consume any alcohol if armed).

I checked maps of sf and there are no schools located 1000' of the beach. (http://www.sf-planning.org/index.aspx?page=2337).


I just want to be sure im not missing anything if i do open carry there.

Frank

gbp
08-26-2011, 12:57 AM
are you asking here so you have someone to blame when you get arrested?

Equis
08-26-2011, 1:10 AM
Don't do it, even if everything is legal, you will have sfpd tazering you. Not to mention someone will freak out, and call of, and say there is a maniac on the beach with an assault weapon.

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FrankG
08-26-2011, 1:29 AM
nope i would never blame somebody else for my actions that is why im asking to make sure (doing my research). It is not something im going out and doing anytime soon but in a month or so (if i do it). and also i wouldnt bring my ar or anything just my g17 on the hip.

Caladain
08-26-2011, 5:09 AM
I checked maps of sf and there are no schools located 1000' of the beach. (http://www.sf-planning.org/index.aspx?page=2337).


What about private schools. School related buildings, home schools, etc? Those maps aren't even 60% i'd wager..

Most of the state is covered by school zone, as it doesn't apply to just public schools. Not going to comment on if this is a wise thing or not, but be careful, and fully research what harm may come to you, and what the outcome may do to the cause.

CitaDeL
08-26-2011, 6:01 AM
Don't do it, even if everything is legal, you will have sfpd tazering you. Not to mention someone will freak out, and call of, and say there is a maniac on the beach with an assault weapon.

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It's been done before with little ill effect. There is no way however, to accurately predict what might happen if open carry is practiced... Some react with irrational fear, others couldnt care less. But saying that SFPD will be tasering someone is just as big a leap as saying nothing will happen.

That is what makes the practice 'entertaining'.

Crom
08-26-2011, 6:15 AM
It's much more trouble than it's worth. I think you are less safe openly carrying an unloaded gun. I'm for carrying loaded guns, so that's what I do, and only one way to do that in Calif.

G60
08-26-2011, 9:04 AM
LUCC.

RivCoFireman
08-26-2011, 3:52 PM
^ +1

Paladin
08-26-2011, 4:37 PM
At least the OP didn't say he's planning a SF UOC beach party.... :facepalm:

Open arry at the beach you might ask... I want to have a fire at night there and there can be some unsavory types that also like to have fires and get drunk (i will not consume any alcohol if armed). Not to dog pile on this poster specifically, but this right here is the main problem w/the UOC crowd: not willing to "take one for the team" until our RKBA are secure.

Then, after we've won a few vital cases, go ahead and put yourself in situations that are risky -- you'll only be putting yourself at risk and not putting the RKBA of the rest of us at risk. As for me, I plan to be even more prudent/low profile AFTER I can LTC. I really don't need or want needless drama involving thugs and/or LEOs/DAs. JM2C

stix213
08-26-2011, 5:22 PM
If you do this, let me know so I can watch what happens. I'm expecting some "code 3" entertainment.

markm
08-26-2011, 5:41 PM
Hello All,

Here is the NPS GOGA (NPS achronym for Golden Gate Park) link for firearms laws. This page is specifically for GOGA. There is large list of facilities where firearms are not permitted even with an LTC (CCW).

I LOC and UOC in National Parks on a regular basis. However, if I felt the need to have a defensive weapon at GOGA, I think I would LUCC in my backpack.

http://www.nps.gov/goga/parkmgmt/lawsandpolicies.htm

Here is a URL from the SF Public Defender's Office regarding an acquital they got for an OCer who was wrongfully arrested.
http://sfpublicdefender.org/media/2010/03/jury-acquits-honor-student-gun-charge/

thanks,

markm

Kid Stanislaus
08-26-2011, 9:02 PM
If you do this, let me know so I can watch what happens. I'm expecting some "code 3" entertainment.

Take your video camera and post the whole ugly mess here so we can all revel in it (or be repulsed, pick your poison).;)

Liberty1
08-27-2011, 9:26 AM
As long as it isn't also a state park (4313 CCR) it should be no crime in open spaces.

shocknm
08-27-2011, 11:09 PM
Ocean Beach is under U.S. Park Police jurisdiction... call them and ask how they would react to you UOC'ing.

http://www.nps.gov/uspp/sffo.htm

SFPD doesn't use tazers.

Anchors
08-28-2011, 12:31 AM
What about private schools. School related buildings, home schools, etc? Those maps aren't even 60% i'd wager..

Most of the state is covered by school zone, as it doesn't apply to just public schools. Not going to comment on if this is a wise thing or not, but be careful, and fully research what harm may come to you, and what the outcome may do to the cause.

I have to call FUD on the home school and maybe "school related buildings" depending on what you mean by that.
A home school doesn't count.

As for me, I plan to be even more prudent/low profile AFTER I can LTC. I really don't need or want needless drama involving thugs and/or LEOs/DAs. JM2C

I prefer CC as well, but there are times when OC is nice or even preferable (of course, I am talking about LOC as UOC is all but worthless. Considering carrying without one in the pipe is worthless in my opinion, UOC is even more worthless for anything aside from activism. It is NOT viable for self-defense).

Meplat
08-28-2011, 1:05 AM
It's much more trouble than it's worth. I think you are less safe openly carrying an unloaded gun. I'm for carrying loaded guns, so that's what I do, and only one way to do that in Calif.

Two.

2Bear
08-28-2011, 1:29 AM
http://www.partipeeps.com/smilies/bonfire.gif:popcorn: