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CalBear
08-17-2011, 1:37 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/elected-president-rick-perry-could-still-jog-gun-190824495.html

I found the author to be very snide and condescending throughout most of the post.

nicki
08-17-2011, 2:02 PM
Although this reporter was looking to do a "hit piece" on Perry, what they did was slam millions of law abiding CCW permit holders in the process.

My only concern with "Perry" is not that he carries a gun, it is the gun he carries is well "kinda small".;)

After all, I thought in Texas, everything is big.:D

Nicki

tiki
08-17-2011, 2:18 PM
He also packs a concealed .380 Ruger (http://www.ruger.com/products/lcp/models.html) loaded with deadly hollow-point bullets, fully equipped with a laser-sight for precise killing.

He lost his credibility with that statement.

The rest is garbage. He's making an argument that would never come up. I think the president would have the secret service with him if he went out for a jog.

Secondly, why is the author concerned about a president violating the law? Like that would be the first time? Come on man!

Precise killing. What a loser.

jwkincal
08-17-2011, 2:24 PM
Every stupid muni, county, or state gun law has a military exemption; as CinC the POTUS could authorize himself to carry an M4 while jogging.

But I wouldn't expect any reporter to be bright enough to figure that one out. Especially one working for Yahoo...

dfletcher
08-17-2011, 2:26 PM
The author is just a "rank & file" reporter trying to make a name, maybe he'll be noticed - maybe his boss will notice he was noticed.

FDR slept with a pistol close by, his wife was a pretty good shot too. I'd say safely walking the streets of DC today is probably a bit more of a challenge than being safely tucked away on the 2nd floor.

Wernher von Browning
08-17-2011, 2:26 PM
Although this reporter was looking to do a "hit piece" on Perry, what they did was slam millions of law abiding CCW permit holders in the process.

My only concern with "Perry" is not that he carries a gun, it is the gun he carries is well "kinda small".;)

After all, I thought in Texas, everything is big.:D

Nicki

From the movie "Dragnet":

Connie Swail: [commenting on Streebeck's gun to Friday] Why is his so much bigger than yours?
Joe Friday: I've never needed more, ma'am.

bwiese
08-17-2011, 2:27 PM
It would be great if Perry - as prospective President - applied to DC for a carry permit.

Whatever the results that occurred would be enormously helpful for RKBA as a massive DC *****-slap.

safewaysecurity
08-17-2011, 2:48 PM
It would be great if Perry - as prospective President - applied to DC for a carry permit.

Whatever the results that occurred would be enormously helpful for RKBA as a massive DC *****-slap.

This is very true. if he gets it then there are equal protection claims. If he gets denied then it just shows how restrictive D.C gun laws are that even the President can't get a carry permit.

monk
08-17-2011, 2:51 PM
This is very true. if he gets it then there are equal protection claims. If he gets denied then it just shows how restrictive D.C gun laws are that even the President can't get a carry permit.

I imagine Perry would say what President Obama was saying, "It's the job of the states to regulate their gun laws."

Wherryj
08-17-2011, 2:53 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/elected-president-rick-perry-could-still-jog-gun-190824495.html

I found the author to be very snide and condescending throughout most of the post.

"...He also packs a concealed .380 Ruger loaded with deadly hollow-point bullets, fully equipped with a laser-sight for precise killing. (What, you don't?)"

No I don't, but probably not for the reasons that the author might imagine.

1) The People's Socialist Republik of Kalifornia (and Alameda Co specifically) don't seem to trust a mere physician and upstanding member of the community with the tools for self defense.
2) I don't consider a .380 to be the best tool for self defense. While I'd be happier to use a .380 than nothing at all, I prefer to have my laser sited self defense weapon to be loaded with at least 9mm or better. Oh, and which responsible gun owner isn't going to use hollow points? They prevent over-penetration and seem to be preferred by law enforcement. What better reference is there for a nanny-state subject?

choprzrul
08-17-2011, 2:55 PM
It would be great if Perry - as prospective President - applied to DC for a carry permit.

Whatever the results that occurred would be enormously helpful for RKBA as a massive DC *****-slap.

You know, it wouldn't surprise me if he did this at any time before, during, or after the campaign just to mess with them. As a governor, he obviously goes to D.C. on state business and would be in need of a permit.

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safewaysecurity
08-17-2011, 2:58 PM
I imagine Perry would say what President Obama was saying, "It's the job of the states to regulate their gun laws."

I would hope not. That certainly is Herman Cain's opinion.

stix213
08-17-2011, 3:00 PM
Ah yes, the overpowered .380ACP deadly hollow point man stopper :rolleyes:

safewaysecurity
08-17-2011, 3:06 PM
Ah yes, the overpowered .380ACP deadly hollow point man stopper :rolleyes:

You have to admit it's pretty irresponsible to keep deadly ammo in a loaded gun :rolleyes:

advocatusdiaboli
08-17-2011, 3:09 PM
Ah yes, the overpowered .380ACP deadly hollow point man stopper :rolleyes:

While it's not a big payload, .380 is no joke, it's killed plenty of people. Serpico carried a Beretta in .380 because he liked the capacity. I wouldn't want to be shot with any firearm personally. I agree with a previous poster who said 9mm or better if you have a choice.

stix213
08-17-2011, 3:12 PM
While it's not a big payload, .380 is no joke, it's killed plenty of people. Serpico carried a Beretta in .380 because he liked the capacity. I wouldn't want to be shot with any firearm personally. I agree with a previous poster who said 9mm or better if you have a choice.

Yes .380ACP is no joke. Just how the author phrased it he makes it sound like he's packing a S&W 500 instead of the weakest round generally considered adequate for self defense. My LUCC pistols are both .380.

tiki
08-17-2011, 3:31 PM
I carry a 4" Kimber. That's small enough.
And yes, hollow points.

radioman
08-17-2011, 4:23 PM
At last, I found someone to put on my list, gun toting Rick Parry.....

ccmc
08-18-2011, 10:12 AM
While it's not a big payload, .380 is no joke, it's killed plenty of people.

A killing shot with a .380 started World War I.

FirstFlight
08-18-2011, 3:13 PM
The author is just a "rank & file" reporter trying to make a name, maybe he'll be noticed - maybe his boss will notice he was noticed.

FDR slept with a pistol close by, his wife was a pretty good shot too. I'd say safely walking the streets of DC today is probably a bit more of a challenge than being safely tucked away on the 2nd floor.

I recall reading that shortly after GW Bush was sworn in the Secret Service gave him pistol shooting lessons.

And by the way, when I was a kid a friend of mine was shot by accident with a .22 Short. It entered his chest just below the left nipple, recoshayed off a bone and went through his left lung and then his heart and exited through his right lung. He died very quickly. The moral of this story is being shot by any size round is not good.

Uxi
08-18-2011, 3:32 PM
I imagine Perry would say what President Obama was saying, "It's the job of the states to regulate their gun laws."

DC isn't a State, though...

CCWFacts
08-18-2011, 3:45 PM
I thought it's a good article! In fact, he could be deputized as a Federal LEO. This was done for members of Congress previously, but the DoJ directed them to stop because it violates separation of roles (legislative and executive). For the President, there is no conflict; he is the head of the executive branch.

I hope he would carry. World leaders have carried personal arms for centuries. It is probably only quite recent that the practice has stopped. I hope President Perry restarts this tradition. And the legalities of it do make an interesting article.

monk
08-18-2011, 5:33 PM
DC isn't a State, though...

That's a whole other thing that's best left for a dedicated thread, me thinks.