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SC-Texas
01-16-2007, 7:58 PM
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a149/6ppc/BlackStar/rifle_splash.jpg

What is this?

Is it restricted to a 10 rd mag in CA?

shinigami
01-16-2007, 8:01 PM
It's a new type of AR that's coming out in TWO WEEKS...LOL


I believe if you have pre-2000 30 rd. mags you can use them with this rifle ... correct me if I'm wrong people..:o

SC-Texas
01-16-2007, 8:06 PM
I'm looking in on this website from Texas (I'm selling an HAR-25 and was told that someone in Cali might be able to use it) and I am amazed at the crap that y'all have to put up with to have a detachable magazine rifle.

That said, this isn't a bad looking rifle.

SC-Texas
01-16-2007, 8:07 PM
I'm still trying to figure the rules of your game and frankly, they stump me.

Hell, I'm a lawyer and they confuse me!

SC-Texas
01-16-2007, 8:09 PM
OK, let me see if I have this straight:

This is OK to use with pre-ban hi cap mags (which would be pre-1994 essentially).

This is OK to have a detachable magazine

Reason its OK:
1. No FH
2. No baynet lug
3. No pistol grip

SC-Texas
01-16-2007, 8:09 PM
And its OK becasue its not on the DOJ list?

Otherwise known as an off list gun

megavolt121
01-16-2007, 8:14 PM
OK, let me see if I have this straight:

This is OK to use with pre-ban hi cap mags (which would be pre-1994 essentially).

This is OK to have a detachable magazine

Reason its OK:
1. No FH
2. No baynet lug
3. No pistol grip

And its OK becasue its not on the DOJ list?

Yes you are correct.

It doesn't have a pistol grip, FH, or forward grip.

Also check out www.californiarifles.com for an AR Stock that allows you to use a normal AR receiver.

ghost
01-16-2007, 8:15 PM
its a pretty nice rifle.i actually saw it in person at the chabot range,mud had a couple prototypes with him.hopefully i`ll get to shoot it sometime

blkA4alb
01-16-2007, 8:15 PM
OK, let me see if I have this straight:

This is OK to use with pre-ban hi cap mags (which would be pre-1994 essentially).

This is OK to have a detachable magazine

Reason its OK:
1. No FH
2. No baynet lug
3. No pistol grip
The high capacity ban was enacted in 2000.

Reasons its ok:
1. No FH
2. No pistol grip.
3. No collapsable/folding stock.
4. No forward pistol grip.
5. No grenade launcher.

Bayonet lugs are not an evil feature.

SC-Texas
01-16-2007, 8:17 PM
Are yo serious! Bayonet lugs are not an evil feature?

That's going to lead to drive by bayonettings!

Oh well, its not a bad looking rifle.

What kind of recoil spring system is used?

Does it use a standard AR bolt and carrier? Doesn't look like it could.

Is it like the ZF system?

Is there a website for the rifle?

Heavy_Grinder
01-16-2007, 8:30 PM
Are yo serious! Bayonet lugs are not an evil feature?

That's going to lead to drive by bayonettings!

Oh well, its not a bad looking rifle.

What kind of recoil spring system is used?

Does it use a standard AR bolt and carrier? Doesn't look like it could.

Is it like the ZF system?

Is there a website for the rifle?

This blackstar rifle has been discussed in depth in its original thread. Use the search function.

SC-Texas
01-16-2007, 8:46 PM
thank for the tip. I read through 11 pages and there wasn't a good description of the differences in the black star bolt and carrier.

Okami
01-16-2007, 8:48 PM
Here's the page for ya Bud! :)

http://blackstararms.com/punbb/index.php

Welcome aboard!

~Okami

SC-Texas
01-16-2007, 9:05 PM
The blackstar website answered my questions in the FAQ:
1. Remington 1100 stock w/ buffer
2. Different carrier/bolt

Cool rifle. It just needs a VFG.

ohsmily
01-16-2007, 9:37 PM
The blackstar website answered my questions in the FAQ:
1. Remington 1100 stock w/ buffer
2. Different carrier/bolt

Cool rifle. It just needs a VFG.

It may need one, but a VFG would make it an assault weapon if you were running with a detachable magazine setup.

dw33b
01-16-2007, 11:21 PM
All I know is that I want one.

Prc329
01-17-2007, 7:33 AM
It may need one, but a VFG would make it an assault weapon if you were running with a detachable magazine setup.

He is in Texas, that wouldn't matter. Darn Texans and there free magazines and pistol grips.

50 Freak
01-17-2007, 9:51 AM
Actually this rifle was built specifically for CA as the designer MUD is an avid 3 gunner and wanted something to compete with and was at the same time COMPLETELY legal and not in a "grey area".

And frankly the Mini-14 doesn't offer the same modularity as an AR and the MUD's not a fan of the SU-16.

Either way, with the way some of the other states are talking, it's very conceiveable that AR's (and AW's in fact) will be made illegal in those states and they will follow CA's example.

If so, this rifle will offer them an AR platform and still be legal with states with insane gun laws.

skeetskeet
04-04-2007, 11:00 PM
Whats the update on this rifle? I'm so close to buying a su-16/mini-14 :eek:

maurice05
04-04-2007, 11:38 PM
Any idea of what the price of this rifle will be ?