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Hunter
01-13-2007, 12:20 AM
Saw this on the Shot Show pics and had to look into it...wow! Makes my 50 look small.


http://www.anzioironworks.com/MAG-FED-20MM-RIFLE.htm
http://www.anzioironworks.com/images/20-mm.jpg
http://www.anzioironworks.com/images/bulletsizes.jpg
Also available in 14.5 Russian.

James R.
01-13-2007, 12:37 AM
Jeebus, dwarfs my 50 BMG as well I'm sure judging by the size of the gun relative to the guy.

I take it that thing is a registered destructive device though...no go in California right?

Regards,

James R.

avidone
01-13-2007, 12:39 AM
Is firing that like having a digging bar rammed into your shoulder?

DrjonesUSA
01-13-2007, 12:40 AM
So, what's the ballistics look like for 20mm, anyhow? :)

blkA4alb
01-13-2007, 12:40 AM
I would shoot it. With a nice big muzzle brake and a HEAVY gun like that I don't think it could be much worse than the .50 :eek: .

pksman
01-13-2007, 9:32 AM
Nice plinker.

blacklisted
01-13-2007, 10:21 AM
Also available in 14.5 Russian.

If I had a lot of money to burn I'd get one in 14.5 Russian. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14.5_x_114_mm

* Calibre: 14.5 mm [.571 inches]
* Total length: 155.8 mm [6.13 inches]
* Typical muzzle velocity: 976 m/s [3202 fps] [with ~1000 grain projectile]
* Typical muzzle energy: 30,675 J [~22625 ft/lbs]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPV_heavy_machine_gun

SemiAutoSam
01-13-2007, 10:31 AM
I'm sure this is redundant but just in case some of you don't know.

Any rifle over .500 diameter projectile is considered a destructive device and hence illegal in the PRC.



If I had a lot of money to burn I'd get one in 14.5 Russian. :D

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14.5_x_114_mm

* Calibre: 14.5 mm [.571 inches]
* Total length: 155.8 mm [6.13 inches]
* Typical muzzle velocity: 976 m/s [3202 fps] [with ~1000 grain projectile]
* Typical muzzle energy: 30,675 J [~22625 ft/lbs]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KPV_heavy_machine_gun

blacklisted
01-13-2007, 10:35 AM
Jeebus, dwarfs my 50 BMG as well I'm sure judging by the size of the gun relative to the guy.

I take it that thing is a registered destructive device though...no go in California right?

Regards,

James R.

It would be a Destructive Device...Federally and in CA. 20mm has a bore diameter of around .8 inches. This is greater than the federal upper limit of .50. However, I believe the 14.5 Russian has a diameter slightly less than .60. California's limit for DD categorization is "greater than .60."

This suggests that you can simply follow the BATF form and tax procedure. CA would have no special procedure because it (the 14.5 Russian chambered rifle) doesn't meet the requirements for a Destructive Device under state law.

PC 12301(a)(3)

(3) Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations, shotgun ammunition (single projectile or shot), antique rifle, or an antique cannon. For purposes of this section, the term "antique cannon" means any cannon manufactured before January 1, 1899, which has been rendered incapable of firing or for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. The term "antique rifle" means a firearm conforming to the definition of an "antique firearm" in Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.

Aluisious
01-13-2007, 10:37 AM
20mm...that probably costs a bit to get ammo. You can get those rounds in HE, or depleted uranium AP...:eek:

blacklisted
01-13-2007, 12:37 PM
20mm...that probably costs a bit to get ammo. You can get those rounds in HE, or depleted uranium AP...:eek:

Yeah, but if you could easily afford a 12,000 dollar rifle I don't think ammo costs would be a concern. :D