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Slipshot
07-31-2011, 5:49 PM
So i was thinking of saving up for a 1911 stainless steel that shoots 45s. Trying to find one new below a grand, if there is such a thing. As long as it's decent quality and reliable I'll be happy. I hear recoil is less with steel. Is is there a significant difference with recoil between full size and sub compact? I'm still new to all this but would like some pointers.

wellfedirishman
07-31-2011, 6:00 PM
Are you set on stainless steel, or would you consider blued or parkerized steel?

If this is your first 1911, I highly recommend the Rock Island Tactical 45. It is a parkerized full size 45 ACP 1911, all steel, and has most of the features that anyone would need. Cost is in the $500 range + tax + DROS. It is a lot of gun for the money.

If you are set on stainless, then a used Springfield or Kimber should cost you in the $700 range approx. Used Colts run higher.

The recoil with the Compact (aka Officer) size 1911 is noticably stronger than with a Govt (full) size. I would not recomend a Compact 1911 as your first one.

Also note, regardless of the 1911 you purchase, good quality magazines will make the shooting experience much more pleasant. I use MecGar and Colt factory mags with good results.

Slipshot
07-31-2011, 6:17 PM
Hey, thanks for the advice. Yeah, even though I said stainless steel, I'm really good with any type of steel. Someone mentioned Rock Island to me but I wasn't sure what model. I'll look into the one you mentioned.

BajaJames83
07-31-2011, 6:24 PM
you can find a new kimber stainless target II for about 1k, used or different models wiil save you some $$$ I got a used warrior for under 1k... theres one on here for 900 right now

Sunday
07-31-2011, 7:00 PM
Get a full sized 1911.

NiteQwill
07-31-2011, 7:47 PM
Forget SS. Go carbon steel. Much easier to mod should you want to.

esartori
07-31-2011, 8:22 PM
I say go for the SA mil spec in SS or the loaded if you can find it for under a grand.

zfields
07-31-2011, 9:51 PM
Stick with fullsize.

.45 in a fullsize 1911 in very, very , very manageable. The smaller you go, the more flip you will get.

MA2
07-31-2011, 9:56 PM
You want stainless, get the stainless http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/images/icons/icon14.gif
Under 1k budget...you will have some great choices, as stated above.

Don't forget about Ruger's new stainless(need to single shot in): msrp:$799.

Is this a fun range only gun...if so, consider one with already installed target sights.

Oh, here is RIA's - tactical model site:
http://rockislandarmory.com/tactical_pistol.html

o0RedEyE0o
07-31-2011, 10:13 PM
I really enjoy my full-sized SA Loaded, its a great gun i spent about $900 after all the taxes and stuff.

Newshooter
07-31-2011, 10:28 PM
Sig 1911...lots of features and right around your budget.

ZX-10R
08-01-2011, 5:54 AM
Colt XSE SS $999. That is what I paid. Own the original and it gets the 100years of service roll mark if you get one soon. Can't beat that for value and that is something that the other guns cannot claim.

By the way it shoots smooth, reliably, and EXTREMELY ACCURATELY - Plus it is a COLT. (I have been shooting my friend's as mine is in Jail still) Best purchase of the year for me. Beats my M&P 45 and FNP-9 easily.

morrcarr67
08-01-2011, 6:11 AM
If you want a SS one you should look @ the 100% USA made Ruger SR1911.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr1911/images/6700.jpg

hkfooey
08-01-2011, 11:36 AM
Is this Ruger on CA DOJ list yet?



If you want a SS one you should look @ the 100% USA made Ruger SR1911.

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr1911/images/6700.jpg

livefire
08-01-2011, 11:40 AM
I say go for the SA mil spec in SS or the loaded if you can find it for under a grand.

+1 GREAT Starter '11

corcoraj2002
08-01-2011, 11:43 AM
Check the for sale section here. there was a SS Springfield Loaded for $1,000 NIB never fired. Saves you around $200 and is in your budget.

The SS Springers are hard to find these days.

tacticalcity
08-01-2011, 11:46 AM
I would NOT get a steel frame if you have a choice. The difference is felt recoil is minimal. At some point you'll want to carry it on your hip. Either you'll want a CCW or you'll want to take a professional shooting course. The all steel 1911s are heavy as a brick. I say this as an owner of an all steel 1911 who wishes he had realized that before he bought.

That said, the steel frame models are pretty much the only tricked out on list ones in your price range.

You might not be able to find an SA or Kimber Stainless in your price range, but you should be able to find a Kimber Custom II in black for $700. or less. I picked up a gently used one for $625 shipped.

Used is good for your first 1911? Why? Because everyone, and I do mean everyone, will scratch the living hell out of their first 1911 learning to how re-assemble it after cleaning. Each time you do you will be livid if you paid for it NIB. It is a bear to learn how to do it right without scratching your gun. Once you scratch it, you just took $200 off its value. So you might as well pay the $200 less for one that somebody else already scratched so you can scratch it without loosing your shirt or feeling bad about it.

Mine only had minor scratches, and I paid about $200 less than I otherwise would have for it new. I have put a lot of nicks and scratches on her myself, but not the full on "idiot mark". That in itself is a minor miracle. So again, I strongly recommend getting your first 1911 used.

Of course, I expect you to ignore my advice. People always want new. Just remember me when you make your first idiot mark. ;)

morrcarr67
08-01-2011, 12:43 PM
Is this Ruger on CA DOJ list yet?

Nope, and it won't be. The best way to get one is via SSE

sffred
08-01-2011, 12:47 PM
1st choice Springfield armory 1911 hands down!
2nd choice Kimber the next bet!
The best bang for your buck and polish the whole thing yourself rock island 1911 tactical!

someR1
08-01-2011, 2:33 PM
If this is your first 1911, I highly recommend the Rock Island Tactical 45.

^^THIS !
Mine is on it's way, only $430 at www.budsgunshop.com !!!

voiceoftheright
08-01-2011, 2:57 PM
Check the for sale section here. there was a SS Springfield Loaded for $1,000 NIB never fired. Saves you around $200 and is in your budget.

The SS Springers are hard to find these days.

Since when are SS Loadeds $1000 ($1200, apparently)? That is not a good price on that pistol at all. I got an MC Operator for less than that ($966 shipped).

Riodog
08-01-2011, 3:21 PM
Gawd, I just love these kind of questions and some of the replies even more.....

Definitely go with aluminum. Just think,,,it's a softer metal so it absorbs more of the recoil...aluminum bullets are lighter so even less recoil......:D Damn, sometimes I just crack myself up...

All bs aside, go with the RIA. Most bang for the buck and you can scratch it, abuse it, decide what you like and don't like, and shoot the heck out of it. When you have some ideas of your own then go out and find exactly what you are looking for and pay the price if it's what you want. You won't have to sell your beater to get it. Who knows, you may not even like the feel of a 1911 but you'll still have one just for sh*ts and grins. Course, the only guys who don't like 1911's tend to be girlie men, with lil dainty small hands and wear panties and would prefer something pink they can stuff in their garter belt.
Rio

Kanoodler
08-01-2011, 3:47 PM
It certainly goes without saying that there are a TON of 1911 variants out there...If this is your first, you really can't go wrong with the reliability and shootability of the full sized models.

While they tend to all share some features that make them easilly identifiable as 1911s, there ARE subtle differences that may or may not matter to YOU!

If you can, try to hit a range that does rentals and compare 1911s in your hands and on target. Methinks you will quickly find a few you may not care for, and may find your perfect match...or at least be a step closer.

In any case, your search is sure to be a pleasureable one! Best wishes on your quest! Be sure to check in with the spousal unit before spending big $$!!

Rock_Islander
08-01-2011, 3:52 PM
Rock Island Armory FOREVER! Just look at my username ;) and you can tell I'm a loyalist.

I own two full size "Tactical" models, I trust my life to both, although it's the plain black one that serves as my nightly night-stand home defense pistol. The two tone (you see in the picture) is actually my "queen" of my collection (believe it or not, RIA's can make for nice queens of a collection).

Both are 100% reliable, ridiculously accurate, and aesthetically pleasing for me to look at. I've refinished both in black, and silver Gun-Kote (Brownells.com) in my backyard, and baked all refinished parts in my home oven! Then I added some nice little custom parts here and there to finish them off. Here they are:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/5507/dsc02107yc.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/168/dsc02107yc.jpg/)

http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/5730/dsc02108.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/571/dsc02108.jpg/)

http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/379/dsc02109hn.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/52/dsc02109hn.jpg/)

http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4696/dsc01972kb.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/203/dsc01972kb.jpg/)

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/2948/dsc01814obm.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/651/dsc01814obm.jpg/)

JosephP
08-01-2011, 4:08 PM
Under 1K.... I'd look for used Kimber CDP II.
Barrel length is totally up to your choice.
There are not much difference between pro(4")size and Full(5") size.
My choice was 4".
In that price range I think no other 1911 beats Kimber CDP II.
Just my opinion :)

Slipshot
08-01-2011, 4:40 PM
Hey guys thanks for all the input. I'm probably gonna stray a little from the ones nearer the grand mark. I know for sure I will make idiot marks on it but it won't feel so bad for me in the 700 to 800 range. If I make the idiot marks on one near or over the grand mark I wouldn't be abe to sleep for three days. HA!

corcoraj2002
08-01-2011, 5:23 PM
Since when are SS Loadeds $1000 ($1200, apparently)? That is not a good price on that pistol at all. I got an MC Operator for less than that ($966 shipped).

In most brick and mortar shops in the South bay, a Springfield loaded, less dros and tax will be around $950. I was looking and called around. I was also talking the OTD price.

Slipshot
08-01-2011, 5:44 PM
So I called around looking for an RIA tactical 45. One gunshop worker said to try for the higher priced 1911s from Kimber and Springfield just for better self defense and reliability. Something I should really consider or are the lower priced stuff just as reliable?

esartori
08-01-2011, 5:45 PM
If 700 to 800 is your range then get a mil spec. U can probably find one in ss too. And I agree w above to find a NICE used one and save some cash. I got my milspec w 100 rounds down the tube and couldn't tell the difference between it and a nib one. But ymmv. Just my 2 cents

GoingQuiet
08-01-2011, 9:41 PM
So i was thinking of saving up for a 1911 stainless steel that shoots 45s. Trying to find one new below a grand, if there is such a thing. As long as it's decent quality and reliable I'll be happy. I hear recoil is less with steel. Is is there a significant difference with recoil between full size and sub compact? I'm still new to all this but would like some pointers.

There are plenty of Sig 1911's that are stainless below $1k.

JanG
08-01-2011, 9:52 PM
So I called around looking for an RIA tactical 45. One gunshop worker said to try for the higher priced 1911s from Kimber and Springfield just for better self defense and reliability. Something I should really consider or are the lower priced stuff just as reliable?

any 1911 can have reliability issues. that is why it's recommended to run hundreds of rounds before trusting it. even though i have a springfield mil spec right now, i'd get a rock island over a kimber any day. kimbers are nice to look at, but i've heard of more people unhappy with kimbers than rocks.

five.five-six
08-01-2011, 9:53 PM
I say go for the SA mil spec in SS or the loaded if you can find it for under a grand.

another vote for a SA milspec (not GI) can't go wrong with a milspec