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Rugerdaddy
01-09-2007, 8:48 AM
I started this as an answer on another thread, then thought I might learn more if I posted it as a new thread. Any thoughts, anyone?

I'm considering Eagle Firearms:

http://www.eaglefirearms.net/ef_uppers.htm

Their complete uppers start at $399, chrome lined. Most are in the $429-$479 range. You might check them out, but I have no actual experience with them. I was told they're a subsidiary of Armalite.

Does anyone have any experience with, or knowledge of, Eagle Firearms?
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bwiese
01-09-2007, 9:34 AM
This is a different Eagle and has no affiliation with Armalite.

I note they claim certain bbls are 'chrome moly' to kinda fuzz up the situation vs 'chrome-lined'.

They act like Shaw bbls are something special, and they're probably 4140 not 4150 steel.

If you can get a Stag upper from them, fine, but their house brands are, well, 'discount'. You get what you pay for.




I'm considering Eagle Firearms:

http://www.eaglefirearms.net/ef_uppers.htm

Their complete uppers start at $399, chrome lined. Most are in the $429-$479 range. You might check them out, but I have no actual experience with them. I was told they're a subsidiary of Armalite.

Does anyone have any experience with, or knowledge of, Eagle Firearms?
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Rugerdaddy
01-09-2007, 11:44 AM
What does chrome moly mean? I notice that this is the $399 upper- the others state chrome lined, and run $429 and up. I'm going to e-mail them and ask about the 4140 vs. 4150 steel. I'll post what I find out here.

Thanks for your input.

hoffmang
01-09-2007, 11:50 AM
I've purchased Stag lowers from them and was quite happy with the transaction.

-Gene

stator
01-09-2007, 11:51 AM
4130, 4140, and 4150 are part of the family of steel alloys commoningly called "chrome-moly". There are slight differences in the alloy composition between each of these. 4150 is the harder of the three while 4130 is the least. 4130 is easier on the machine tools (last longer) while 4150 wears the tools out sooner, etc., etc., etc.

You can search the internet for the alloy composition of each and the gory details if you are interested in knowing more than my generalizations above.

About Eagle Firearms (eaglefirearms.net), I've purchased from them in the past on several occasions without a hitch. Some of their inventory is sold at best pricing compared to others like Bravo Company, Denny's, etc. Their house brand upper is made with either CMT Stagg or Rock River Arms. You can specify which if you have a preference. ER Shaw makes blanks with 4140 and 4150 chrome-moly steel. They make good barrels but not like Krieger, but who would want to chrome-line a Kreiger anyway? ER Shaw is used by Bravo Company, Bushmaster, and many others. You need to ask them if it is 4140 or 4150. Since you will not be shooting full-auto, I doubt there will be much of a difference for you (or if you are, invite me to one of your range days). I only buy 4150, however because you can generally find someone selling a barrel in 4150 for nearly the same price as 4140 (chrome-lined).

Rugerdaddy
01-09-2007, 12:40 PM
Thanks hoffmang and stator. Very helpful. One more question: If the barrel is chrome lined, does it really matter if the steel is 4140 or 4150? Thanks.

bwiese
01-09-2007, 12:50 PM
Thanks hoffmang and stator. Very helpful. One more question: If the barrel is chrome lined, does it really matter if the steel is 4140 or 4150? Thanks.

(Stator I do not believe Shaw makes Bushy barrels. That may have been in the past, but I think they do their own and send out for chroming).

I have heard that 4150+chrome lined is better than 4140+chrome due to a tad better heat transfer in 4150.

I buy 4150 chrome lined bbls because it's a sign other things are likely right, just like using F-marked flattop front sight/gas blocks instead of A2 rifle frong sight/gas blocks, and also parkerizing (coating) under the front sight. The latter two are not done by Bushmaster.

I figure if they get these three right they're likely taking the time to do other things right too.

If you're an AR newbie, get a chrome-lined bbl w/milspec chamber.

Dump1567
01-09-2007, 12:50 PM
Without going into details, I was less than happy with some work they did for me and will never use them again. Others have been satisfied. Your results may vary.

For uppers, I would recommend CMMG, Bravo Co., Colt, LMT or CMT/Stag.

I've ordered from http://www.globaltactical.com/, http://www.pkfirearms.com/store/start.aspx, & http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/index with excellent results.

For custom work, I use Randall (a fellow Californian) at www.ar15barrels.com.