Legal Sound Suppressor(changer) Idea????

[ARRRR-15]

Ok. A sound suppressor is illegal or any other sound hindering device correct?

It doesn't say anything about a sound changing device. What if someone designed a device similar to a suppressor but it used the gas to activate a sound making device. Maybe something like a whistle that made a decibel similar to a round going off.

Hell if this is legal then the next time you go to the range all you will here is a bunch of whistles going off. You could even make one sound like a Star Wars Blaster. :D

Stupid I know, but just another way to get around these laws.:p

[cseabass]

whistle tips for a gun..... no thanks.

[Aluisious]

What's the point?

[xenophobe]

It doesn't say anything about a sound changing device. What if someone designed a device similar to a suppressor but it used the gas to activate a sound making device. Maybe something like a whistle that made a decibel similar to a round going off.

That's not going to float. The ATF determined that the XM177E2 flash hider was a sound suppressor not because it dampened the sound noticeably, but because it modified the sound signature considerably.

Any attempt at creating a device designed to alter the sound signature or sound level would be felonious....

[Racefiend]

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[ARRRR-15]

What's the point?[QUOTE]

Because you can. I would like to see how far I can go with things before I can't even purchase a BB gun in this state.



[QUOTE=xenophobe]That's not going to float. The ATF determined that the XM177E2 flash hider was a sound suppressor not because it dampened the sound noticeably, but because it modified the sound signature considerably.

Any attempt at creating a device designed to alter the sound signature or sound level would be felonious....


Nevermind, I guess you can't.:( :)

[cseabass]

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gotta love oakland...

[rorschach]

I want one that makes a duo-tone air raid siren attack wail.

[6mmAI]

The die hard gun owners in California will take our cause to the end, Off List BB and Pellet Rifles, Off List Rubber Band Pistols and OLL Butter Knives.

Never give in, never give up and never ever compromise.
One day we will all be in Arizona...

[xLusi0n]

That's as stupid as fake turbo sound making speakers for non turbo cars.

[AYEAREFIFTEEN]

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"You should be up cookin' breakfast in teh monin'."

[ARRRR-15]

That's as stupid as fake turbo sound making speakers for non turbo cars.


Ok.... what are you talking about and where can I get one?:D j/k

[Skammy]

That's not going to float. The ATF determined that the XM177E2 flash hider was a sound suppressor not because it dampened the sound noticeably, but because it modified the sound signature considerably.

Any attempt at creating a device designed to alter the sound signature or sound level would be felonious....

It acutally reduces sounds by something like 3db I think it was

Ok. A sound suppressor is illegal or any other sound hindering device correct?

It doesn't say anything about a sound changing device. What if someone designed a device similar to a suppressor but it used the gas to activate a sound making device. Maybe something like a whistle that made a decibel similar to a round going off.

Hell if this is legal then the next time you go to the range all you will here is a bunch of whistles going off. You could even make one sound like a Star Wars Blaster. :D

Stupid I know, but just another way to get around these laws.:p

LaFrance talks about a suppressor like this in an interview in Small Arms Review..
It whistled at a range where humans couldn't hear it..

[wutzu]

"You should be up cookin' breakfast in teh monin'."

"It's like a alarm clock"

[m24armorer]

The XM177E2 supressor does not change the sound level, it changes the pitch.

[E Pluribus Unum]

Any attempt at creating a device designed to alter the sound signature or sound level would be felonious....


If I shove my muzzle break into a pumpkin and pull the trigger, I'm a felon.

[xenophobe]

It acutally reduces sounds by something like 3db I think it was

Ummm... a 3db sound decrease is not a perceptible or noticeable difference without measuring devices.

In other words, you can't tell the difference between 110db or 113db. Or 55db and 58db.

[Fate]

Dangit.

Now what am I going to do with my new muzzle device invention that changes the sound of a rifle shot into a voice that shouts, "TWO WEEKS!" ?

Maybe I'll convert it into a muffler for scooters.

[Fate]

If I shove my muzzle break into a pumpkin and pull the trigger, I'm a felon.
No, you're a perv. :D

[Turbinator]

Folks, I believe part of the definition and determination of a sound suppressor revolves around whether or not the suppressor itself actually attaches to the firearm, or not. If the definition were so broad as to include any "device" that would dampen the sound of a firearm, then by definition, an indoor shooting range would be illegal because from the outside, the sound of the firearm is dampened and suppressed.

Therefore, what I have thought about is building a device that does not attach to a firearm, but instead is stationary yet provides the same sound suppressing benefit.

Consider a string of tires, all stacked together, allowing you to see and shoot straight through at your target.

The continuous baffles created by the tires would capture and slow down the expanding gases relative to people standing next to the tires, thereby effectively controlling the firearm's sound - provided you placed your firearm in the tire tunnel while shooting.

The row of tires is not attached to the firearm, nor is it portable enough to really be used as such.

However, if you owned your own land and just wanted to shoot without disturbing your neighbors, this might work.

Thoughts?

Turby