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aileron
01-05-2007, 6:43 AM
Says 2nd is not an individual right. We need to write him.

http://desmoinesregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070104/OPINION01/701040347/1035/archive

AYEAREFIFTEEN
01-05-2007, 7:48 AM
I guess what he's saying is if we all join a militia, we can have whatever guns we want.

jaymz
01-05-2007, 8:03 AM
militia

Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, military service, from milit-, miles
1 a : a part of the organized armed forces of a country liable to call only in emergency b : a body of citizens organized for military service
2 : the whole body of able-bodied male citizens declared by law as being subject to call to military service

This means anyone registered in the Selective Service, right? Could we call ourselves "citizens organized for military service"? A bunch of us have EBR's after all! :D

Omega13device
01-05-2007, 8:49 AM
The thing I have always thought is weird about that argument is that it implies that the "collective right" is embodied by the military being armed, but the framers wanted the people to be armed as a counterbalance to the power of a standing army. So the collective right makes no sense in the context of the balance of power the framers were trying to create.

Rumpled
01-05-2007, 9:51 AM
My advice to the author.
Read the bill of rights.
Count where it says people.
Are the rights enumerated to the people individual or collective.
If they are individual, they must apply universally.
If collective, then he is not allowed to spew his dribble under the first.