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McTerry
06-27-2011, 7:29 PM
So I was saving up for a Beretta 92FS M9A1 and was about halfway there when my Gun Guy decided to throw out a sale on some Mossberg shotguns. I took a quick count and came back with Seven 12 gauge shotguns and an assortment of other calibers scattered throughout the house and safe and told him no thanks...

Today after work I went to see him and ended up filling out the DROS for a Mossberg 500 Persuader Model #50521 12 Gauge.

In the mail already is a NcStar Shotgun Scabbard, Hogue Stock Tamer Shotgun Pistol Grip, UTG Weaver Picatinny Style Tactical Low Profile Mount, and a few other odds and ends...

Figured I would Home Defense this one up to its gills since all the others are set up for hunting, cheap Savage models, or just old family hand me downs and such...

Pictures once I pick it up in ten days...

Question though for any who may have one... How much of a pain in the *** is the forend to get off and does anyone know if the forend tube is 6-3/4" long or longer?


P.s. Please don't try to get me to buy a "Tacticool Heat Shield" for the barrel, cause I will just laugh myself into a fit of hysterics...



Picked it up today! Added the Hogue Tamer Overmolded Pistol Grip and Uncle Mike's Magazine Cap Super Swivels as well as a Blackhawk Sling (which I don't recommend)...

Right Side Out of the Box
http://x1d.xanga.com/e43e0a61d6434277683289/b221201876.jpg

Left Side Out of the Box
http://x5d.xanga.com/d22e176135035277683275/b221201868.jpg

After Installing Hogue Pistol Grip and Sling Swivels
http://x37.xanga.com/c36f866115433277683262/b221201859.jpg

Sling
http://x0e.xanga.com/835e026116435277683287/b221201874.jpg

NcStar Scabbard
http://x0c.xanga.com/ec8e0373c9035277683297/b221201882.jpg

knucklehead0202
06-28-2011, 12:48 PM
i used to have a persuader, which i sold in lieu of a Win 1300 defender. both are good guns but i liked the way the winchester handled better. anyhow, i highly recommend just buying a forend tool. i got one on ebay for like 9 bucks or something and it's priceless. with creative tool use, you can get your forend nut off, but getting it back on is another story. i did install a surefire forend on my mossberg without the tool, but i'll be damned if i remember how. when i got my defender, i just sucked it up and bought the tool and i'm glad i did. as for the forend tube length, i'm not sure but i don't think it'd be any longer than 6-3/4. what kind of forend are you considering putting on it?

McTerry
06-28-2011, 3:19 PM
The Hogue Overmolded Forend to match the pistol grip.

glock_this
06-28-2011, 3:22 PM
So it might look a little something like this in the end :)

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=325405

I am a week away from changing the forend to an Ultimate Arms and adding a Limbsaver.

shortround1
06-29-2011, 10:28 PM
So I was saving up for a Beretta 92FS M9A1 and was about halfway there when my Gun Guy decided to throw out a sale on some Mossberg shotguns. I took a quick count and came back with Seven 12 gauge shotguns and an assortment of other calibers scattered throughout the house and safe and told him no thanks...

Today after work I went to see him and ended up filling out the DROS for a Mossberg 500 Persuader Model #50521 12 Gauge.

In the mail already is a NcStar Shotgun Scabbard, Hogue Stock Tamer Shotgun Pistol Grip, UTG Weaver Picatinny Style Tactical Low Profile Mount, and a few other odds and ends...

Figured I would Home Defense this one up to its gills since all the others are set up for hunting, cheap Savage models, or just old family hand me downs and such...

Pictures once I pick it up in ten days...

Question though for any who may have one... How much of a pain in the *** is the forend to get off and does anyone know if the forend tube is 6-3/4" long or longer?


P.s. Please don't try to get me to buy a "Tacticool Heat Shield" for the barrel, cause I will just laugh myself into a fit of hysterics...

You'll laugh at the idea of a heat shield but you want a scabbard, utg "tactical" mount and pistol grip?

McTerry
06-30-2011, 9:27 AM
So it might look a little something like this in the end :)

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=325405

I am a week away from changing the forend to an Ultimate Arms and adding a Limbsaver.

Nice, yes indeedy. I may end up going the collapsible buttstock and side saddle way in the future but for now it will stay normal pistol grip and sling.


You'll laugh at the idea of a heat shield but you want a scabbard, utg "tactical" mount and pistol grip?

Uhm, yes, that is correct... Troll harder, you almost got it...

epilepticninja
06-30-2011, 11:21 AM
I loath heat shields. They look ridiculous and don't offer anything of value.

shortround1
06-30-2011, 9:59 PM
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Uhm, yes, that is correct... Troll harder, you almost got it...[/QUOTE]

Sure thing sunshine. Enjoy all your little add-ons... Until you actually use that shotgun and end up taking them off later.

McTerry
07-07-2011, 1:32 AM
Sure thing sunshine. Enjoy all your little add-ons... Until you actually use that shotgun and end up taking them off later.

LOL When that day comes, you will be the last person I tell... :p

astroboy
07-07-2011, 1:55 PM
how did it turn out? do you have your gun yet? i just got my self a
mossberg 500 "tactical" persuader. and the forend wobbles, i did some
research and found out it is a part of the mossberg design. it just seems
weird holding a brand new gun that is not that stable.

McTerry
07-07-2011, 4:07 PM
Wobble is going to happen with just about any pump action shotgun. My cousin has a Benelli that does the same thing (granted not as much)... Just the design, nothing to worry about.

And yes I did get it today. Been tinkering and cleaning it... Will add pictures to the OP...

bsg
07-07-2011, 4:36 PM
congratulations on your shotgun.

paratroop
07-07-2011, 5:09 PM
you dont really need a special tool for the fore-end nut. none of my spanners worked, i think i just got leverage on it with an allen wrench the first time. and then when i decided to put it all back to OEM, i actually used needle nose pliers to get the leverage i needed. just use what you got brother!

thats a funky fore-end anyway, thats what they come with now?

hcbr
07-07-2011, 5:29 PM
congrats!

McTerry
07-07-2011, 9:13 PM
Wg-UgI3sPXI

Bigtime1
07-08-2011, 11:40 AM
I put the Hogue set on my 500/590 hybrid and they're NICE. Make sure whatever you get doesn't cover the feed port when the slide is all the way back.

Be sure to take it out and run a few drills with three pounds of ammo swinging around under the gun on that tacticool sling you've got.

Put some money into an aluminum safety and some training. As others have said, you'll start peeling accessories off that thing once you try to make it work in even a low-stress environment. I took a SG class a while back and it seemed like the guns with more mods/doodads/accessories spent more time needed "adjustments" while the closer to stock guns ran and ran.

IMHO all you really need is a decent sling, and if you want a grab and go a side saddle. Then practice practice practice practice cuz that gun will only be as good as the operator.

McTerry
07-08-2011, 7:47 PM
Sling and sling swivels came off about ten minutes after they went on. Using the sling as the strap for the scabbard now which works surprisingly well and adds fifteen rounds close at hand (also looks cooler than having it swing a mile below the gun...)

McTerry
07-08-2011, 7:59 PM
http://x7e.xanga.com/7f6f777743731277700080/b221214528.jpg
http://x39.xanga.com/081f7b6520531277700081/b221214529.jpg

Utha Schleigle
07-08-2011, 8:24 PM
Looks good. For around the house it is perfect.

As for me I like heat shields - especially if they take a bayonet.

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/shot%20guns/PICT0006-10IthacaCoHarryHowland.jpg

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/UtgaSchleigle/shot%20guns/DSC00787jchigginszodiak12ga.jpg
short shotguns are fun

McTerry
07-17-2011, 2:17 PM
grrr. So it appears the 50521 does not have a forend nut and the whole forearm assembly is molded to the actual rails and I can not for the life of me figure out how to remove it. Wondering now if I am just going to have to buy a whole new forend...

Just Dave
07-17-2011, 4:39 PM
grrr. So it appears the 50521 does not have a forend nut and the whole forearm assembly is molded to the actual rails and I can not for the life of me figure out how to remove it. Wondering now if I am just going to have to buy a whole new forend...


Before you spend any money check this video first.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vzw0QaA9-1g

I'm picking up my Mossberg on Friday and I will be looking very closely at the forearm configuration.

44banger
07-19-2011, 11:00 AM
Where are u located. I would like to get it from u. Cal or text me. 510 731-8229. How much?

McTerry
07-19-2011, 3:11 PM
If I do buy a new assembly I will keep the stock one just to keep it with the shotgun. No plans to sell it.

I did see that video and a few others but none of them had the same forend as mine. It is slightly different and I don't want to cut or break anything off in order to use it. Will probably just buy the forend assembly off of MidwayUSA or Cheaperthandirt.

glock_this
07-19-2011, 3:18 PM
I just swapped out my forend last week in 5 minutes. These guys take way to long & 2 much effort as in the end it gets destroyed anyway, I cut it off with a dremel tool in 2 minutes and put on a new forend of choice (see my signature) and viola.

So, a new forend CAN be done quick and easy on a 500 despite it being molded into the tube.

And BTW, you should have a forend nut.. it should be there, but it is about worthless in the stock setup but useful in the cut off and replace setup.

McTerry
07-19-2011, 3:32 PM
Here is a very crappy pic of mine:
http://xe9.xanga.com/4f3e3a2b60237277858797/w221332138.jpg

I'm not at home for a few days so I can't grab a better quality one. Pic taken from my Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co2LdHwLEWo)

Just placed an order for the Mossberg Action Slide Tube Assembly 6-3/4" Mossberg 500 A, 590 12 Gauge (http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productNumber=373588) off of MidwayUSA for $25.99

Hopefully it will do the trick and maybe once I get to looking at the Stock one off of the gun I'll figure something out but more than likely I will just leave it together and drop it in the box along witht he Original buttstock and pistol grip... I already have the Forend nut Adapter sitting at home with the Hogue Overmolded Forend so my fingers are crossed that I have everything covered for now..

seal20
07-20-2011, 9:36 AM
I actually ended up adding the factory mossberg heat shield after burning my hands/wrist. These puppies get HOT and stay that way for awhile when you run em hard. Seems this is your first defensive set up, you are definitely headed in the right direction with a pistol group, ncstar and utg!!

prc77
07-20-2011, 9:48 AM
I actually ended up adding the factory mossberg heat shield after burning my hands/wrist. These puppies get HOT and stay that way for awhile when you run em hard. Seems this is your first defensive set up, you are definitely headed in the WRONG direction with a pistol group, ncstar and utg!!

Fixed it for you

McTerry
07-20-2011, 2:27 PM
The UTG rail never even made it onto the shotgun, I looked at it and it was just all kinds of ugly so yea, it is still sitting in the packaging.
I do like the Hogue pistol grip but may end up going the adjustable stock direction shortly. It's fun to shoot the way it is, just not exactly what I want. The scabbard works great though for hauling it around the desert and tossing it in the truck.
Still not sold on the heat shield idea. I know the barrel can get hot when ran hard or even just running ten or so rounds through it but I don't normally grab it by the barrel.

McTerry
07-22-2011, 9:18 PM
Got the Action Tube Slide Assembly in today. Works like a champ with the Hogue Tamer Forend (with adapter nut)...

http://x94.xanga.com/93cf9a0bd3433277905260/b221365809.jpg

This is the Pinned Stock Forend (Note it has no tube or nut at all, strickly just the rails embedded in the plastic.

http://xe6.xanga.com/7caf8a04d3732277905265/b221365813.jpg
http://xc8.xanga.com/ae4e140330535277905267/b221365815.jpg
http://xcd.xanga.com/cbce060250535277905269/b221365817.jpg
http://xd8.xanga.com/77bf8100d3733277905273/b221365821.jpg

HatersLOVEme : )
07-23-2011, 4:34 PM
Yeah all the newer base model Mossbergs and Mavericks have that crappy forend set up lame huh !?!

A bit of a PITA but you overcame it and then some good job - looking good a major improvement man !

Far as accessories do what you like your the only one who has to live with it if it works for you do it ;)

No offense intended since I don't know your situation and if your the only one shooting the gun but if not just one serious burn or trip to the hospital for you or your love one or friend and you won't be laughing at heat shields it will be well worth the cost just food for thought .

On a side note : if you'd like a shorter stock instead of that Hogue pistol Grip I actually might be able to help you out with that since I have a almost brand new 60$ 12" LOP Hogue stock I'm going to be selling in a few days I'd even work a deal with you and trade / give you credit on the Hogue pistol grip you have and maybe even that sling and swivels towards my Hogue stock if your interested that is or if you wanted anything else in my for sale pages for it give or take - I currently have a Mesa Tactical aluminum SureShell 6 shot shell holder and receiver rail for sale and a Pachmayr Vindicator Pistol Grip set for sale also links are in my signature below and ether way good luck with your HD scatter gun build bro :)