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kAnJii
12-20-2006, 11:54 AM
Looking for a decent safe. Money is an issue and I live in a two story house.

1. Looking for a safe to hold maybe 8 rifles max and possibly 3 handguns. Any suggestions on brands and models. Currently just a .223 and 3 .22lr rifles, 4 OLL receivers, and a 9mm handgun.

2. Living in a two story house, is it better to bring the safe up to a room, or leave it down either in the garage or in a closet. I don't know if safes rust on the outside or not. I live in the bay area, so I think it should be fine.

thedonger
12-20-2006, 12:55 PM
Go with a Cannon. IMHO they are the best, but most are very good.

In the Bay area you might want a "goldenrod" dehumidifier, so locate the safe near a power source.

The safe should also be anchored down.

Satex
12-20-2006, 5:05 PM
Both Cannon and Browning are on top of my short list of good safes. And yes, bolt it down.

Saleen_Cobra
12-20-2006, 6:32 PM
Sam's Club has a good deal on a Winchester safe. Its 60"x30"x22", fireproof, and has an electronic lock. You can see it at www.winchestersafes.com. The website lists it at $599, but I bought mine at Sams for $581.

My father has a Cannon C23, and its an excellent safe. Comparing the two, the Cannon C23 is 2" deeper, and the door is thicker, but he paid over $1,000, with a nice silver paint job at Dean's Safe Co. in LA.

Fatcat
12-20-2006, 9:32 PM
I researched the hell out of this when I was looking for one. If going to invest in a safe, take a look at this company:

http://www.sturdysafe.com/minuteman.htm

They are not well known because they do not do any national marketing. But they are very helpful and inform you of their products and the competition. If anything, just reading the infomation on their site will give you good information. The drive to Fresno is worth it to view their factory and talk to the owners.

leelaw
12-21-2006, 12:48 PM
One thought: Buy a safe that is bigger than your current collection. You will fill the space faster than you think, and a bigger safe will cost less than a second safe.

mike100
12-21-2006, 2:14 PM
I researched the hell out of this when I was looking for one. If going to invest in a safe, take a look at this company:

http://www.sturdysafe.com/minuteman.htm

They are not well known because they do not do any national marketing. But they are very helpful and inform you of their products and the competition. If anything, just reading the infomation on their site will give you good information. The drive to Fresno is worth it to view their factory and talk to the owners.
wow, look at that. They spiffed up the website recently.

here's mine:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c265/mschrameck/gun%20stuff/DSC01255safesm.jpg

mblat
12-21-2006, 2:40 PM
Whatever brand you will decide to go with - buy one that holds DOUBLE of the number of guns you think you need.
Bigger safe makes a HUGE diffrence in how you manage your guns. You don't want your babies scratched, do you? Especially if you will get some C&R items....

I found it hard way - now I need to sell my less than 1 year old safe and buy a new one....

BTW: Canons are really nice....

Satex
12-21-2006, 5:36 PM
I spoke to Sturdy extensively, and I can tell you that I am not that comfortable with them. They talk about how you shouldn't believe the other's rating, but when I asked them point blank what their rating is, they had no answer. They just said "we use the best fire protection out there".
They also refused to discuss the construction of their doors. They haven't done ANY certification testing on their safes!

Of course, they do tell you that non of their safes has been broken into in the last several years but they can't back it up (they won't say how many were replaced), and they say that govt buys safes from them. But then again, all the other manufacturers say the exact same thing.

The main problem with Sturdy is that aside for driving to Fresno and getting a tour of their company, there is no way to tell what they are really worth because they dont work with dealers.

Oh, and BTW, they say they have been around for 40 or 50 years... What they mean is that their company has been around for that long - as a metal shop. They have been making safes for about 15 years - or so.

I researched the hell out of this when I was looking for one. If going to invest in a safe, take a look at this company:

http://www.sturdysafe.com/minuteman.htm

They are not well known because they do not do any national marketing. But they are very helpful and inform you of their products and the competition. If anything, just reading the infomation on their site will give you good information. The drive to Fresno is worth it to view their factory and talk to the owners.

vwsergio
12-22-2006, 3:35 PM
Go with the Sam's Club Wnchester safe. Its 60"x30"x22", fireproof, and has an electronic lock. and not bad price

NextTimeAround
12-22-2006, 7:11 PM
What's the best recommendation for a location of the safe in a house? Is a cold garage ok? I don't think any closets will fit something that's the size I need.

naimad
12-22-2006, 7:14 PM
Go with the Sam's Club Wnchester safe. Its 60"x30"x22", fireproof, and has an electronic lock. and not bad price

I second that that seems like a smoking deal on that safe

Satex
12-23-2006, 6:27 PM
What's the best recommendation for a location of the safe in a house? Is a cold garage ok? I don't think any closets will fit something that's the size I need.

The place that movers are willing to bring it to, and is also most out of sight for anyone that may be at your residence. Remember, a safe is not a piece of furniture that needs to be shown in pride. Its something that no one should know you have.

crazyXgerman
12-23-2006, 10:45 PM
this seems to be a pretty good resource for gun safe buying information:

http://www.6mmbr.com/gunsafes.html

Inkman
12-24-2006, 5:03 AM
The only advice i can give is what some already said. Buy bigger than you need, cuz you will out grow it in no time.
I bought the Sentry one from Home Depot and it's already full and i need a bigger one. Hope my wife listened when i told her what to get me for Christmas :D

Al

Librarian
12-24-2006, 11:50 AM
The place that movers are willing to bring it to, and is also most out of sight for anyone that may be at your residence. Remember, a safe is not a piece of furniture that needs to be shown in pride. Its something that no one should know you have.
Right. Remember to bolt it down - if someone can deliver the safe, someone else can pick it up and take it away, with the right equipment.

Cold (or hot) garage is OK. Check for rust on your guns - condensation may be a problem, or may not.

Parag
12-24-2006, 11:56 AM
Liberty Safes http://www.libertysafenorcal.com/ is starting their year-end sale on the 26th. They have a wide range of prices and selection. I'm happy with one of their smaller ones that just fits into a closet. Having a local shop to check 'em out first is also nice. Reeds also carries several lines of safes and simple and cheap CA-approved locking cabinets.


-- Parag

255peterm
12-28-2006, 6:02 AM
Take a look at http://www.patriotsafe.com/ . They are 3/4'' steel , fire protection at 1 hour at 1880 degrees great warranty .I orderd their closet safe this week their phone is 1-877-743-5372 . I talked to a Mike Proctor who was very helpfull .

Davidoff
12-28-2006, 9:09 AM
Peter:

How much was shipping on the closet safe and did they bring it in the house for you?

Thanks

zinfull
12-28-2006, 9:21 AM
Patriot url is wrong. To many m's in .com. Nice looking safes.

http://www.patriotsafe.com/

Jerry

255peterm
12-28-2006, 6:38 PM
Patriot url is wrong. To many m's in .com. Nice looking safes.

http://www.patriotsafe.com/

Jerry
Thanks Jerry Iwill fix it Pete.