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oaklander
06-13-2011, 7:36 AM
Guys and gals,

I have like 20 major projects, and about 50 smaller projects - that I am working on. . .

ONE THING that I would like to do is to write a history book about the CA gun rights movement. YES - I want to write a book!!!!!

BUT - I don't have the time - plus my memory sucks!

What we need is someone who can write a draft, then I will edit. This book would just be self-published - but we could make it available at the CGF WIKI. "Profits" would go toward CGF (just throwing out ideas - those guys don't even know about my idea yet).

:)

Besides being a fun project - this book would also serve to help educate CA gun owners on what is happening in our state, and how we have been doing it so far (we will have to leave out secret strategies and stuff - at least right now).

I'm thinking that maybe someone has started this already????

Folks - what do you think? I mean seriously? Is it a good idea - or stupid?

If it's a good idea - WHO wants to help me do this???

Just throwing it out there, but I actually have a literary agent as a client for something. If the book is really good - we can likely get it published. The model would be something like the book entitled "The Soul of a New Machine."

http://www.amazon.com/Soul-New-Machine-Tracy-Kidder/dp/0316491977

It's no accident that there are similarities, especially when you look at the players here. . .

LOL

soopafly
06-13-2011, 7:41 AM
Give me the specs, and I'll design the cover

VegasND
06-13-2011, 7:44 AM
I really like the idea of getting the history down while the participants are still around to give details.

How about some chapters devoted to individual stories of key events told in the first person.

That would add a biographical aspect that would make me more interested in the book.

oaklander
06-13-2011, 7:47 AM
Like and Like!!!

ETA:

Let's go ahead and use this thread to plan the chapters and chapter themes. I will suggest certain chapters if we "miss" them. ALSO - there's some stuff that never made it to the forum, but which would be interesting for the book. The TRICK is to put in interesting stuff - BUT NOT to harm any current or future work (or violate confidences, etc).

One aspect of this thing - if we do it right - is that it will totally make our opposition uncomfortable. Think about it - Brady/LCAV/BOF is fighting an uphill battle against "us" - they do not have the resources or time to write ANYTHING!!!

AND - there's nothing interesting for them to write - since their book would be an accounting of their own EPIC failures. . .

I know the law on libel, so I am happy to review things to make sure that we don't ruffle the wrong feathers. ALSO - I would like input from the UOC crowd, and other groups who were previously not aligned as closely with us as they are now. I want this book to reflect the CLEAR TRUTH that we are all in one fight (and it's a fight that we are ALL winning, and this is true - just by looking at reality).

We so totally rock!!! All of us!!!

The working title is:

TWO WEEKS: How A Small Group of Modern-Day "Merry Pranksters" Beat The Largest Government Agency In California

The book should ultimately be about people - not events, per se. This is hard to explain - but you will see what I mean when we start talking about chapters.

ALSO - THE BOOK WILL NOT CONTAIN ANYTHING CURRENTLY USEFUL TO THE OPPOSITION - WE HAVE ENOUGH "WIN" HERE TO JUST GO MOSTLY OFF OF WHAT IS ALREADY KNOWN IN PUBLIC

Give me the specs, and I'll design the cover

I really like the idea of getting the history down while the participants are still around to give details.

How about some chapters devoted to individual stories of key events told in the first person.

That would add a biographical aspect that would make me more interested in the book.

yakmon
06-13-2011, 7:57 AM
you could spend :twoweeks: of time doing research here in this forum's archives!

oaklander
06-13-2011, 8:00 AM
LOL - you have ESP!!!

The first sentence will be:

"It all started with a party."

The genesis of CGF was due to three informal parties, some stuff that certain people were already thinking, BWO's arrest, and a PRAR that someone did. People don't realize how random the real world is. . .

That being said - I will ask people to not write anything that is not already on the internet somewhere, and which has not already been verified as being true. Since this stuff is already STILL happening - we need to be mindful of that as well. I would rather that actual chapters NOT be posted on the internet until I can comb through them for landmines. BUT - we can go ahead and move forward with chapter titles, etc. HERE.

I would like to crowd-source the book, by using google docs so that we can all co-write chapters, etc. . .

I know it's a crazy idea - but that's the point!!! None of what you all see now would have happened if certain people did not have crazy ideas!!!!

you could spend :twoweeks: of time doing research here in this forum's archives!

M. D. Van Norman
06-13-2011, 8:07 AM
I’ve thought about this idea, too. :D

However, I think the time for the book is after California has virtual shall-issue concealed carry and/or the ban on “assault weapons” has been struck down. We’re still several years away from that, I suspect.

oaklander
06-13-2011, 8:11 AM
I agree with you!!!

The only thing I would add is that such a book, even if it only stays on the internet as a PDF or something - can totally bring NEW people into our movement. . .

ALSO - we need to remember that every politician who reads that book will start to see the world from our perspective. The world itself is very random - and the trick to changing minds (which is what we are doing here, at our most basic level), is helping people see "your" truth - and giving them objective reasons to reject their old "truth."

There's some magic here. There's also the EPR Paradox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPR_paradox) issue. What that means is that the book, in itself, can actually change things for us (in a good way). But only if done a certain way. . . More than that - I am not comfortable sharing.

This is one of those things that I say, which sounds totally crazy - until you know what I am saying. Then it's just weird, but real.

I’ve thought about this idea, too. :D

However, I think the time for the book is after California has virtual shall-issue concealed carry and/or the ban on “assault weapons” has been struck down. We’re still several years away from that, I suspect.

SJgunguy24
06-13-2011, 8:14 AM
Kevin, the racist origins of firearms restrictions and how that agenda is pushed so hard in the urban areas only to the detriment of those communities. Why would Palo Alto elitists care about whats happens in places they wouldn't go without a police escort.

krucam
06-13-2011, 8:18 AM
I and many others appreciate what CA has done for the fight, but I feel you can't do this "story" justice without including Tom Palmer, Bob Levy (Cato), Shelly Parker, and a slew of others 10 years ago that started the run to the Supreme Court with Heller....at a minimum.

I agree, someone ought to write a book on this era we're living and breathing right now. It is a wonderful story...

NY's Sullivan Law which became the basis for 50-60 years of "May Issue" & cronyism...don't get me started. :D

M. D. Van Norman
06-13-2011, 8:22 AM
The only thing I would add is that such a book, even if it only stays on the internet as a PDF or something - can totally bring NEW people into our movement …

This is one of those things that I say, which sounds totally crazy - until you know what I am saying. Then it’s just weird, but real.

Ha-ha-ha! So true. You can count me in anyway. :cool:

oaklander
06-13-2011, 8:27 AM
Cool!

Thanks!

(Also thanks for not thinking I am crazy!!!)

I sometimes don't explain things well enough - so it seems like some of my ideas don't make sense - but about 95 percent of the time - they actually WORK.

It's a crazy world we live in - and I LIKE it that way!!!!!!

Ha-ha-ha! So true. You can count me in anyway. :cool:

wash
06-13-2011, 8:37 AM
If you want to get in to the deep facts that the main stream media ignores, I was the fourth guy in line at McDonald v. Chicago, the first person that the New York Times didn't mention.

Rock6.3
06-13-2011, 8:45 AM
The first sentence will be:

"It all started with a party."

The genesis of CGF was due to three informal parties, some stuff that certain people were already thinking, BWO's arrest, and a PRAR that someone did. People don't realize how random the real world is. . .

Will this be written in legalspeak or english? (I don't know who BWO is, and I don't know what a PRAR is.) :confused:

krucam
06-13-2011, 8:46 AM
If you want to get in to the deep facts that the main stream media ignores, I was the fourth guy in line at McDonald v. Chicago, the first person that the New York Times didn't mention.

Mike Sachs (First One at One First) was #3 for the first time that session. A couple from CA got #1 & #2.

I was #77 that morning, two spots behind the last card holder...

oaklander
06-13-2011, 8:55 AM
YES - that's why the book will be written. ALL of this stuff fits together in a neat and interesting latticework.

BWO was someone who was arrested for his OLL's - and WON! That was the essential public "START" of our real current fight. It made us angry and focused - and you see what happens when you get smart law-abiding people angry and focused.

We "fix" things that are broken - and that is VERY AMERICAN!!!

PRAR is a request that you give to the government here in CA so that they will give you documents, etc. . .

It won't be written in lawyer speak, since lawyer speak is generally not intended for a public audience (it's only for judges and opposing counsel). A lot of it does not make sense, unless you are a lawyer or a judge. Then it makes clear sense!!!

Again - we live in a crazy world!! And that's a good thing!!

Will this be written in legalspeak or english? (I don't know who BWO is, and I don't know what a PRAR is.) :confused:

yakmon
06-13-2011, 8:56 AM
i think a PRAR is the cali version of a freedom of information act request.

oaklander types faster than me!

oaklander
06-13-2011, 8:59 AM
ALSO - the Heller/McDonald stuff is likely the subject of several books right now. We need to integrate that stuff - but only to the extent that it relates to US, here in CA.

Folks won't read a watered down "CA version" of Alan's story - and Alan likely would not want them to. . .

What I want are things like the TWO WEEKS story, and the various stories that we all tell when we get together. These are the accepted and TRUE "legends" that we now share when we all hang out. These are awesome stories, and one of the reasons I like to have parties is that I like to hear those stories.

They are really true parables about human nature, and as such - they have great value!!!!

ALSO - if the book reads like a summary of our litigation ONLY - then it will be boring to the mainstream audience. Again - what I want are stories like "Why Would 35 Gun Owners Drive to Deep East Oakland?" AND "Why Minivans Are Not the Official Staff Vehicle at DOJ/BOF (anymore)" etc. . .

Some snarky - BUT only snarky to our opposition. I probably should not even be divulging this sort of thing. But seriously, our opposition has ZERO teeth right now - and they are pretty much fair game, as long as what we write is true and verifiable. ALSO - names should be used, but only when the person is CLEARLY a public figure, or limited purpose public figure - AND when naming that name won't harm anything currently happening.

This project will require GREAT discretion!!! But, again - if done right - has great power to let folks know exactly who we "are" and what we've done. If anything, it could serve as an inspiration for movements in other states - and not just "gun" movements. But ANY sort of "rights" movement. We have done nothing new - but what we have done (and are doing) is extremely interesting, funny, entertaining, sometimes sad - but clearly worth a book!!!

ptoguy2002
06-13-2011, 10:08 AM
The story that Wes / Ten percent wrote on here about his first gun show and the two weeks things would make a great addition to your book.
Don't have the link, but it is posted here somewhere.

Stonewalker
06-13-2011, 10:22 AM
The story that Wes / Ten percent wrote on here about his first gun show and the two weeks things would make a great addition to your book.
Don't have the link, but it is posted here somewhere.

Oohh I'm holding on for that link, I'd love to read that story.

wash
06-13-2011, 10:44 AM
It is a very good read.

I had no part in any of the early stuff except buying a fixed mag Vulcan lower.

I think it was the post Heller dinner at Izzy's that was the first time I got to hear a little of what (the people who would become) CGF and Don Kilmer were doing. The steak was good also.

It would be hard to write about these things for a person like me, from the outside looking in and an unreliable memory.

Falconis
06-13-2011, 11:11 AM
Two significant events in California would have to be the Stockton school yard shooting and the 101 incident in San Francisco. That (IMO) started the slew of crap that we are dealing with now. Maybe a whole chapter on emotions vs. facts and the people spewing their agenda on both sides.

If it helps I am thinking a structure something like listed below. Of course somethings may be wrong and other things may need to be added/deleted.

Revolution and 2nd Amendment - All arms privately owned including cannons?
War of 1812 through Civil War - Some arms still privately owned?
Expansion of the west and the role guns played and laws at the time
1934 NFA and events leading to it
WW2 - Japanese Admiral's quote should be included somewhere
Registration
Civil Rights Era gun laws
US Supreme Court Decisions regarding 2A.
Black Panther Party March on Sacramento
Waiting periods and any studies on their effectiveness
President Regan Assassination attempt - Significance with gun laws
-Prior Assassination attempts.
Stockton school yard shooting
California 101
Roberti Roos
SB-23
Other Significant CA gun laws
gunshows - 2 weeks
Heller/Mcdonald
The Future?

Falconis
06-13-2011, 11:29 AM
and now that I am thinking about it, a chapter on the pro and anti groups

oaklander
06-13-2011, 12:02 PM
I like!!

My only comment is that we need to be slightly less historical, and try and tell more stories about "people" and who they are and what they did - AND - we want the thing to include many parables. . .

The bite that we are going to take is a small bite - there are many books that talk about the overall 2A movement. I want this one to be about the neat CGN angle - if that makes sense.

In other words, if it's not something that DOES NOT involve people we already know - then we should maybe not talk about it.

There's another reason for that - the idea is that we want this to be a personal story - about the people, etc. . . and it's much easier to write those if you already know the people (and you can totally GET stuff that is not available from using 3rd party sources).

I hate to be crass, but when you go to the checkout line at Safeway - you will note that MOST of the mags are about people. People is what sells. If we want this to be read by politicians (who are BY DEFINITION) "people people" - then this needs to be personal, funny, and entertaining. . .

BUT - please don't take that as a critique - rather - it's what I know from being a published author (I think I was up to 70 nationally-published articles before I decided to stop, due to work reasons).

bigcalidave
06-13-2011, 12:11 PM
I like when Oak gets excited, he comes up with some great ideas!

Kestryll
06-13-2011, 12:13 PM
The bite that we are going to take is a small bite - there are many books that talk about the overall 2A movement. I want this one to be about the neat CGN angle - if that makes sense.

"There are thousands of stories about the fight to protect and restore our civil rights, this one is ours."

oaklander
06-13-2011, 12:13 PM
LOL - my wife generally agrees with that one!!!

My most recent "great idea" involved me moving to Sonora - and I only gave my boss 12 hours notice. Thank goodness he likes me!!!! That was back in August - and I am still employed. . .

Fricken miracle!!!

I like when Oak gets excited, he comes up with some great ideas!

wash
06-13-2011, 12:29 PM
I was thinking the book might be good if it were steak scented, to give you the feel of a steak house while you learn these hysterical stories.

I'm sure there are many other meats and maybe a few non meats that should be included in the story. I think I remember some egg rolls at a shoot-n-que.

I remember burritos at the Cow Palace Calguns.net booth.

To replicate my experience you need to have a full stomach and a nice beverage and you should hear the voices involved.

Now I'm thinking of a books on tape version recited by the people involved.

Oak, this might sound dirty but it isn't, how about a calguns oral history project?

Stonewalker
06-13-2011, 12:54 PM
I was thinking the book might be good if it were steak scented, to give you the feel of a steak house while you learn these hysterical stories.

I'm sure there are many other meats and maybe a few non meats that should be included in the story. I think I remember some egg rolls at a shoot-n-que.

I remember burritos at the Cow Palace Calguns.net booth.

To replicate my experience you need to have a full stomach and a nice beverage and you should hear the voices involved.

Now I'm thinking of a books on tape version recited by the people involved.

Oak, this might sound dirty but it isn't, how about a calguns oral history project?

That sounds like a real aural pleasure...










No seriously, it does.

G60
06-13-2011, 2:14 PM
WW2 - Japanese Admiral's quote should be included somewhere


Let's not and say we did, because the admiral never said it. http://factcheck.org/2009/05/misquoting-yamamoto/

You would be surprised how many 'quotes' our side uses are actually misquotations.

Stonewalker
06-13-2011, 2:17 PM
"The internet is great because you can just make up quotes from any historical figure and everybody will take them at face value, nobody looks them up" -Abe Lincoln

command_liner
06-13-2011, 3:00 PM
A project or two near and dear to my heart.

I work at HP near the instant book printing development division. (My work
is in the *very* high speed printing field.) On a few hours notice I can print
any book or whatever should be a book. The books are finished exactly like
any other soft cover book. I just printed up customized versions of three books
last Friday.

So Oak, if you need press proofs, I can make a few. Cost to me is zero.


For a few years I have been kicking around another project. Before Alan Gura
became famous, months before he appeared in Heller, I met him at a meeting
in Irvine California and explained to him that his writing was good enough to
be printed and bound. In the intervening years, I spoke to him and again
on the subject of printing his works. He continues to decline.

Much of the important work is in copyright-free legal pleadings. It is, in
effect, open source. I am thinking of compiling *and printing* a history of
the gun law movement for the last 110 years. Not many people are in the
position I am in -- having a book publishing system on hand, knowing pretty
well the story, and having a bunch of book experience. (User manuals: my
life was full of 500+ pages user manuals. I wrote three using InDesign and
have helped edit dozens.)

So the section on Alan will be named "Objection Overruled". He might not want
his works published as text books, but the rest of us want them. There will
be volumes on GCA 68, NFA 34, Miller, and recent dozens of cases. Something
like 50 books at 200-500 pages each.

Of course we need commentary and editors. Something like 5000 - 10,000 man
hours of editing, linking and story line is needed. Gene, Brandon, and Bill need to
be cloned, as does Oak and dozens of others.



Yet another book idea.
I want to publish bound copies of the Heller and McDonald decisions. The
idea is to have them autographed by the lawyers and the plaintiffs and then
auction them off for NRA, CRPA, SAF and similar institutions.

wash
06-13-2011, 3:17 PM
Damn it, he's not the darling of the professoriate!

yakmon
06-13-2011, 3:18 PM
...
Yet another book idea.
I want to publish bound copies of the Heller and McDonald decisions. The
idea is to have them autographed by the lawyers and the plaintiffs and then
auction them off for NRA, CRPA, SAF and similar institutions.

a copy of McDonald v Chicago, and Heller v DC autographed by Mcdonald, Heller, and Gura! that would look good on my wall, framed, with the same model handgun Heller was about.

soopafly
06-13-2011, 3:29 PM
Oohh I'm holding on for that link, I'd love to read that story.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=29636
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=32967

Stonewalker
06-13-2011, 3:48 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=29636
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=32967

Thanks man.

yakmon
06-13-2011, 3:53 PM
:iggy: <---this is a story that needs to be told, good thing there's an emoticon for it.

oaklander
06-13-2011, 9:18 PM
I like where this is going!!!!

:D

oaklander
06-13-2011, 9:23 PM
Correct, I myself never actually said - "Watch me go to that CGF meeting wearing my chaps!"

Rather, I said - "I'm going march in the Pride Parade wearing an AK 47 t-shirt."

I'm getting the sense that our book would contain a LOT OF HUMOR. What we have done (and ARE doing) is EPICALLY funny, when you get down to it.

It's like a massive internet "troll" - except that we are "trolling for a darn good cause."

Think about it - that is really what has happened - it's like the most EPIC troll in the history of the world!!!!!!

That is why I kind of like "anon" - but don't quote me on that. . .

:43:

You would be surprised how many 'quotes' our side uses are actually misquotations.

M. D. Van Norman
06-14-2011, 8:13 AM
I’m sure that the personal stories will be entertaining, but we will also want to provide the outsider with an intelligible narrative. Amazing, historic things are afoot, but the average American is still almost completely unaware of these things.

oaklander
06-14-2011, 8:25 AM
Correct - for example - there's a declaration that Gene just did - it's part of a large case. Well, I guess that some docs that I *may* have PRAR'ed from DOJ a couple of years ago are in that. . .

There's a lot of interesting connections between people / events / and stories.

This really is a BIG organic story - and it's much more complex, nuanced, and darn entertaining that most folks even see. What I'm trying to do is to illustrate how all of this works (but without giving up our super secrets!). . .

:)

I’m sure that the personal stories will be entertaining, but we will also want to provide the outsider with an intelligible narrative. Amazing, historic things are afoot, but the average American is still almost completely unaware of these things.

oaklander
06-14-2011, 1:15 PM
OK - I slept on this idea - and now I love it even MORE!!!!

What we SHOULD do is just start.

We can make a PRIVATE WIKI somewhere - and only just let our own volunteers work on the product. There is some legal risk in saying certain things - so I would like to review anything before it is cross posted outside of the private wiki.

Unless something is already "public" or unless it is cleared by the person(s) involved - I do not want it in there.

I will also volunteer to EDIT for TONE - and I would like each chapter written by an "expert" on that event. For example, WES - on the TWO WEEKS THING. Etc. . .

I do not have the bandwidth to write much - although I might have some funny stories or something - and they are stories that are already part of the folklore.

If anything - this should be like an oral history of CGN/CA Grassroots.

Again - this should be a FUN and entertaining book to read - AND I would absolutely like it to have moral tales and parables. There is a whole moral dimension to fighting for what is right - and that needs to set the tone. But kind of in a Merry Prankster way - if that makes sense.

Barbarossa
06-14-2011, 1:50 PM
Good Reads...

History of the 'off-list lower phenomenon 4/28/06 First Draft (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=32967)

When was Calguns started and who were the first members? (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=211751)

In celebration of 4 years of OLL. (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=216911)
Ben Cannon "I'm actually going to write a book about the whole thing, detailing my call to Alison after the "Inspection" (raid) on RMB where I literally told her "...If you think these are illegal, come and arrest me."" (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=2985999&postcount=31)


Milpitas Lowers are BACK BABY! (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=79366)

Tales of the Legal Lower: An Inside Look at Lower Sales. (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=29636) <-- Wes's Awesome Post
I managed to get more good information out of Mr. Chinn in 5 minutes than I had gotten out of Bill Wiese the whole day before. No offense to Bill, his knowledge of the law and the way things might work was great, but his not knowing when the list was coming was horrible as far as I was concerned. When I asked Mr. Chinn how long I had and he said two weeks; that made my whole weekend.

oaklander
06-14-2011, 2:26 PM
Excellent!!!

We will need to get permission from the OPs to use their words (everything you write is owned by you - basic law). Merely posting does not grant public domain rights on your words. . .

Yes - I'm thinking to maybe NOT reinvent the wheel on a lot of stuff - maybe we can make about 50 percent of the book be edits of threads???

ALSO - let's talk about MONEY. I don't want any. You guys don't either. What maybe would work would be selling it at cost+.

The "+" could then be donated to CGF (if they want it). I can't speak for them on money stuff (since they know I SUCK at money stuff). . .

LOL

It should also be e-booked, etc. . .

This is EPIC - and can be done in a few weeks if we all work as a team or something like that, etc. ..

Good Reads...

History of the 'off-list lower phenomenon 4/28/06 First Draft (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=32967)

When was Calguns started and who were the first members? (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=211751)

In celebration of 4 years of OLL. (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=216911)
Ben Cannon "I'm actually going to write a book about the whole thing, detailing my call to Alison after the "Inspection" (raid) on RMB where I literally told her "...If you think these are illegal, come and arrest me."" (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=2985999&postcount=31)


Milpitas Lowers are BACK BABY! (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=79366)

Tales of the Legal Lower: An Inside Look at Lower Sales. (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=29636) <-- Wes's Awesome Post

Barbarossa
06-14-2011, 2:52 PM
Assuming you can get into contact with the OPs.

Bcannon's post states he intends to write a book, and he doesn't seem accessible since all the gpal stuff.

blacklisted hasn't been on since February.

We will probably need some Moderator help for contact e-mails etc...

Preface by a CGF board member would be nice once a working draft is going.

Do you have a working outline?

Preface
intro
Historical reasoning behind legislation (Oak?)
Law (Oak?)
Dark days
"A New Hope" (I've seen reference to a private section where there were early discussions) [Mod help?]
First Action (Cannon)
The Origin of "Two Weeks", or The inglouriois Mr. Chinn (Wes/Bweiss?)
Blooming knowledge
CGF "Corrections"
Current state

oll
roster
ulcc
ccw

Future

oaklander
06-14-2011, 4:35 PM
LIKE!

For legal reasons, we may want to kind of reference the gpal thing. I don't want to HIDE it - but I also don't want to mess up anything for folks.

The fact that I can't really say more than "that" should indicate how cautious we have to be about certain things. . .

ALSO - at least for people on OUR side - we need complete buy-in. This means that we absolutely WILL NOT write about people or include any identifying information unless they think it's OK. . .

This is different from many books - but I don't want this book to DIVIDE US. I want it to (1) bring us closer, (2) educate folks (here and outside of the movement), and (3) be damn entertaining.

I *think* we can do all three. Or - at least - that's my sincere hope!!!

:)

For people who have a historical interest in things like that - we can point them to archived threads here.

Assuming you can get into contact with the OPs.

Bcannon's post states he intends to write a book, and he doesn't seem accessible since all the gpal stuff.

blacklisted hasn't been on since February.

We will probably need some Moderator help for contact e-mails etc...

Preface by a CGF board member would be nice once a working draft is going.

Do you have a working outline?

Preface
intro
Historical reasoning behind legislation (Oak?)
Law (Oak?)
Dark days
"A New Hope" (I've seen reference to a private section where there were early discussions) [Mod help?]
First Action (Cannon)
The Origin of "Two Weeks", or The inglouriois Mr. Chinn (Wes/Bweiss?)
Blooming knowledge
CGF "Corrections"
Current state

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roster
ulcc
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Future

ALSO - the way it should read SHOULD NOT BE:

Ignatious Chinn was hired to the DOJ on X/X/X and worked in the XXX division until XXX.

RATHER:

"Wes was setting up his gun show booth. It was hot, and the so-called air conditioning was on some sort of strange holiday. It wasn't a Roman holiday, since even the air conditioning was almost complaining about the work it had to do. But Wes' work that day was even harder: convince the largest law enforcement agency in the state that what he was selling was not going to put everyone in the room in jail. He thought would be easy, he even had a little piece of paper that said he was not going to jail. Wes felt pretty happy. That was until a short Asian-American man kind of hobbled up and told Wes that he was going to be rotting in jail for the next five years."

OR - something like that. . . I actually don't remember exactly how it came down - but that is the style. I know that sucks - but I wrote it in 20 seconds. . .

ETA: I used artistic license to claim that I wrote it in 20 seconds. It was actually about 40, with a minute or two to edit. BUT - that is the point!!! I would like this to read like something from a detective novel. The last chapter should contain an overall message - something like "And then we found out that Alison was working for us that whole time!" Of course, we know that is NOT true!! BUT - it would have to be something that crazy - (but true).

We have to remember that the folks we want to read this - well - I can tell you from personal experience that they have short attention spans. The people who WORK FOR THEM have longer spans. But the bosses at the top are typically doing 30 tasks per hour - and just do not have the bandwidth to read long tomes, etc. . .

yakmon
06-14-2011, 5:32 PM
That's better than I'd do in 20 minutes. Maybe I can help out in other ways. Like contacting OPs for permission to print stuff or other leg work.

Hump0311
06-14-2011, 5:46 PM
I'm good with Google and verifying information. I also just learned how to do a citation in one of my classes. I know it's not much but I am more than willing to help anyway I can.