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415dog!
06-12-2011, 1:37 AM
Anyone's agency here have employees doing this bs?

hitman13
06-12-2011, 6:24 AM
Yes, started in April, not a fan at all.

Unit74
06-12-2011, 7:39 AM
Yes. It's dumb.

415dog!
06-12-2011, 11:23 AM
our program began right around the time we were getting rid of positions. I heards it cost the dept a good chunk of change....the only purpose I see for it was for a certain LT to validate his/her position. What a waste of time/money. Glad to see others agree and its just not my salty self

4FTTY
06-12-2011, 5:16 PM
We have one Lt. working full time on this for the next six months.

Falconis
06-12-2011, 5:58 PM
our program began right around the time we were getting rid of positions. I heards it cost the dept a good chunk of change....the only purpose I see for it was for a certain LT to validate his/her position. What a waste of time/money. Glad to see others agree and its just not my salty self

That's probably all it is. Or he's working on his masters or PhD and has to make all the peons suffer for it.

What is lexicrap?

415dog!
06-12-2011, 6:51 PM
Its a monthly multiple choice questionnaire regarding your department policy.

Falconis
06-12-2011, 7:08 PM
sounds like a waste of time

Jonathan Doe
06-12-2011, 8:39 PM
What is Lexipol?

Librarian
06-12-2011, 8:43 PM
What is Lexipol?

http://www.lexipol.com/

Features of the Lexipol System

Lexipol provide comprehensive, court-tested policies written by legal and law enforcement professionals.
Lexipol experts constantly monitor major court decisions, legislation and emerging trends affecting law enforcement operations.
Lexipol provides regular policy updates in response to legislative mandates, case law and evolution in best practices.
Our system allows you to view the origin of all policy content, including federal and state laws and law enforcement best practices.etc, etc.

HarrisonS004
06-12-2011, 8:44 PM
What is Lexipol?

Addressed here
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Its a monthly multiple choice questionnaire regarding your department policy.

Jonathan Doe
06-12-2011, 8:50 PM
I don't get it. What does it accomplish?

Librarian
06-12-2011, 9:32 PM
I don't get it. What does it accomplish?

Saves staff time that might be spent on thinking of rational department policy by substituting a cookie-cutter (but vetted by lawyers) pre-made set of policies.

No, I don't think it's a good idea, but apparently enough people do that Lexipol has made a business out of it.

415dog!
06-12-2011, 10:38 PM
I don't get it. What does it accomplish?

Nothing but keep out IT guys busy and offer another way to receive discipline when we dont complete them on time

fullrearview
06-12-2011, 11:06 PM
It is too cookie cutter... As I posted a month or so back, we are trying to change our firearms policy, allowing us to carry personal duty weapons (which BTW, we knocked the cover off the ball, just have to see if the boss man robs it at the wall!)... In the policy, we discovered several contradictions regarding several things...

Essentially, we can already carry personal weapons for duty, and the range master can make modifications, etc... But I'm not going to be the test goat to try it out!

Notorious
06-12-2011, 11:36 PM
Its a monthly multiple choice questionnaire regarding your department policy.

We have one Lt. working full time on this for the next six months.

This takes a full time LT position and six months?

Sounds a lot like CALEA and their nonsense.

cmoore
06-13-2011, 1:01 AM
Yeah, we're ballz-deep into it here too. It's required that we complete at least one DTB each day we work...totally greaseless and non-medicated with bits of shaved glass...

Sicmaro
06-13-2011, 2:50 AM
We are required to complete 5 a month.....

ckim34
06-13-2011, 8:40 AM
its useless

4FTTY
06-13-2011, 9:31 AM
This takes a full time LT position and six months?

Apparently. I don't even want to know how much this thing costs. But I bet I could find better things to spend the money on...

BigDogatPlay
06-13-2011, 10:45 AM
Lexipol's approach to policy through risk management is becoming the rage with brass all over. And it ain't cheap. Longer term I'm betting you'll see / hear more about them as the cases around CCW issuance continue forward as their model policy on issuance is in wide use as I understand it.

tgriffin
06-13-2011, 11:08 AM
Sounds like the Lexus nexus people.

415dog!
06-13-2011, 12:25 PM
Apparently. I don't even want to know how much this thing costs. But I bet I could find better things to spend the money on...

We heard 50k through the rumor mill for program and install. Unknown on updates and other additions crap

jaysen
06-17-2011, 6:22 PM
I will refrain from comments which have already been stated but we've been using it now for over two years.

solanoshooter
06-17-2011, 10:57 PM
We've had it for a few years. Brass was good about checking in the beginning but since I haven't completed one in over a year, they have either stopped checking/forgotten, or don't care if my division comported them.

hitman13
06-18-2011, 8:12 PM
Some of you all have it easy. We have to do 1 DTB per calendar day of the month :/

solanoshooter
06-20-2011, 10:08 PM
Some of you all have it easy. We have to do 1 DTB per calendar day of the month :/

So do we. Though like I said, no one has checked in quite a while.

But when they do, I'm screwed.

HassanChop!
06-21-2011, 6:26 PM
My agency has been using this for the past three years. It came as a "Cookie Cutter" policy manual that was quickly found to have many faults. We have gone through countless revisions to bring it in line. All in all, a big PITA. One positive for us is that it changed many of our old "shall" and "will" verbs with "can" and "may", providing a little more wiggle room when covering your ***.

cacop
06-21-2011, 9:43 PM
We have had it for 5-6 years and it was a PITA at first mostly due to the fact we went from 20 year old policies on paper to a paperless system. We may have stopped paying them after the initial change because the only changes we make are the ones we want such as allowing 1911s.