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canyon runner
06-10-2011, 11:57 AM
I posted this in the OT section but it got deleted for some reason. Here is the story...

Last year I was at the 6 Man Vollelyball Tournament in Manhattan Beach. Many people dress up in costumes. I snapped this picture of a girl and then later realized she was breaking California law....

We have all heard the rediculous cases of open carriers being arrested and charged when they are 10 ft within a school zone. Do you think this women would have been arrested ?

http://leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=12001-13000&file=12550-12556

12556. (a) No person may openly display or expose any imitation
firearm, as defined in Section 12550, in a public place.
(b) Violation of this section, except as provided in subdivision
(c), is an infraction punishable by a fine of one hundred dollars
($100) for the first offense, and three hundred dollars ($300) for a
second offense.
(c) A third or subsequent violation of this section is punishable
as a misdemeanor


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Kala
06-10-2011, 11:58 AM
How do you know that's not standard issue uniform for police now?

... I've got to hit the beach more often...

gvbsat
06-10-2011, 12:08 PM
I'd be more concerned with the club (if real) she has than the pistolla

canyon runner
06-10-2011, 12:10 PM
I'd be more concerned with the club (if real) she has than the pistolla

the club might be illegal too.

Ctwo
06-10-2011, 12:22 PM
can kids run around the beach with squirt guns?

Smokeybehr
06-10-2011, 12:29 PM
Both the revolver and the billy club look to be cheap plastic, and not the real thing. The cuffs look to be cheap metal like what magicians use.

Mesa Tactical
06-10-2011, 12:32 PM
What revolver, club and cuffs?

Bigtime1
06-10-2011, 12:34 PM
Perhaps a thorough pat-down was in order, just to be on the safe side. :chris:

Falconis
06-10-2011, 12:44 PM
What revolver, club and cuffs?

ok I thought I was the only one not seeing the above mentioned items.

ckprax
06-10-2011, 12:44 PM
Even if she got a ticket she probably wouldn't pay it. Other states and countries don't have silly laws about imitation firearms; she was probably just ignoring CA law. My guess is she is in Hawaii now...

canyon runner
06-10-2011, 12:50 PM
Both the revolver and the billy club look to be cheap plastic, and not the real thing.

still illegal in california

KandyRedCoi
06-10-2011, 12:56 PM
does the same law apply for the "orange tip" on toy guns?

timdps
06-10-2011, 2:14 PM
Don't forget to add the "impersonating an officer charge"... :D

jwkincal
06-10-2011, 2:18 PM
She's a police officer, clearly!

canyon runner
06-10-2011, 2:31 PM
I know I might be a jerk for this, but I would lean towards caling the cops on her and getting her arrested.

She is breaking the law. If people dont like the law then change it but she IS breaking the law.

ALSystems
06-10-2011, 2:35 PM
Better hope she didn't run into a lady cop.

I find it hard to believe a male cop would ever arrest her. She is just too pretty.

dotalchemy
06-10-2011, 2:35 PM
I know I might be a jerk for this, but I would lean towards caling the cops on her and getting her arrested.

She is breaking the law. If people dont like the law then change it but she IS breaking the law.

The irony of this post just made my face explode, considering you admitted tax evasion on the OT forum this very morning.

canyon runner
06-10-2011, 2:45 PM
The irony of this post just made my face explode, considering you admitted tax evasion on the OT forum this very morning.

do you even know what tax evasion is ?

second of all, i already have a deal with the state to pay what i owe.

the reason i am paying it is because the law is the law.

this girl is breaking the law.

sorry, you fail.

MasterYong
06-10-2011, 3:11 PM
I posted this in the OT section but it got deleted for some reason. Here is the story...

Last year I was at the 6 Man Vollelyball Tournament in Manhattan Beach. Many people dress up in costumes. I snapped this picture of a girl and then later realized she was breaking California law....

We have all heard the rediculous cases of open carriers being arrested and charged when they are 10 ft within a school zone. Do you think this women would have been arrested ?

http://leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=pen&group=12001-13000&file=12550-12556

12556. (a) No person may openly display or expose any imitation
firearm, as defined in Section 12550, in a public place.
(b) Violation of this section, except as provided in subdivision
(c), is an infraction punishable by a fine of one hundred dollars
($100) for the first offense, and three hundred dollars ($300) for a
second offense.
(c) A third or subsequent violation of this section is punishable
as a misdemeanor


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Are you SERIOUSLY criticizing someone else's ignorance of a very little-known law (kids play with toy guns in public all the time) when you already admitted in another thread that you're a two-bit criminal???

That girl probably doesn't know she's breaking the law (and I'm not sure she is) when you BRAG about being a criminal in OT.

do you even know what tax evasion is ?

second of all, i already have a deal with the state to pay what i owe.

the reason i am paying it is because the law is the law.

this girl is breaking the law.

sorry, you fail.

Actually, in the thread, you admitted to knowingly breaking the law. You're only paying the state because you got CAUGHT (and I highly doubt you're actually paying them). You admitted to tax evasion (and yes I know what that is). You admitted to intentionally running part of your business under the table so as to not having to pay taxes, and asked for sympathy from members of this forum when you got caught.

You are one strange dude, you know that?

ckprax
06-10-2011, 3:20 PM
I know I might be a jerk for this, but I would lean towards caling the cops on her and getting her arrested.

She is breaking the law. If people dont like the law then change it but she IS breaking the law.

You're kidding right?

spits55
06-10-2011, 3:27 PM
Sexy time! :tt1:

gvbsat
06-10-2011, 3:44 PM
Maybe she is compensating for one boob being bigger than the other?

canyon runner
06-10-2011, 4:03 PM
You're kidding right?

well, are you suggesting that people should be allowed to break the law ? or only certain laws ?

isnt justice blind and the same for everyone ?

GrizzlyGuy
06-10-2011, 4:51 PM
I know I might be a jerk for this, but I would lean towards caling the cops on her and getting her arrested.

She is breaking the law. If people dont like the law then change it but she IS breaking the law.

Why on earth would you even think about calling the cops on her? She isn't harming or threatening any person or any thing, so who cares if she is breaking some silly law?

canyon runner
06-10-2011, 9:01 PM
Why on earth would you even think about calling the cops on her? She isn't harming or threatening any person or any thing, so who cares if she is breaking some silly law?

well, to be honest i think it would be good for gun rights. i mean, most people outside of the gun community dont realize how stupid our gun laws are and how good honest people are being locked in cages over them.

maybe something like a poor girl at a beach volleyball tournament getting locked up would shed some light to the average person about how unjust our gun laws are.

dont blame me for the laws, i didnt write them.

the anti-gun police use "the letter of the law" against the gun community all the time and there doesnt seem to be any outrage in the general public so maybe they should see what its really like to be prosecuted and persecuted

Ubermcoupe
06-10-2011, 9:12 PM
Perhaps a thorough pat-down was in order...


You mean "freedom fondle" :thumbsup:

Cokebottle
06-10-2011, 9:25 PM
Why on earth would you even think about calling the cops on her? She isn't harming or threatening any person or any thing, so who cares if she is breaking some silly law?
Because he's simply a sockpuppet troll.
Welcome back SOCMOB.

CenterX
06-10-2011, 9:31 PM
Zoom in on the badge. Is it bona fide?
The club, cuffs and revolver may or may not be genuine. The pic just isn't sharp enough to differentiate.

Superficially, she is hot enough to do what ever in my sand lot. (withholding further comment until I complete a thorough interview)

Otherwise - who cares - really now, why make an issue out of some stupid law.

canyon runner
06-10-2011, 9:37 PM
Because he's simply a sockpuppet troll.
Welcome back SOCMOB.

a guy with over 15,000 posts calls me a troll ? thats a good one. at least i dont attack people personally.

and use a different label than "troll", its old.

nagorb
06-10-2011, 9:39 PM
a guy with over 15,000 posts calls me a troll ? thats a good one. at least i dont attack people personally.

and use a different label than "troll", its old.

Why would he call it something else? If it's true it's true:confused:

Anchors
06-10-2011, 9:44 PM
I think the OP's point was, "Why does she get to carry an imitation firearm when a guy that looks like me and actually has experience with firearms would be proned out on the concrete about twenty seconds after stepping out of my house for doing the same thing".

Hit point was basically how arbitrarily California's convoluted laws are enforced.

Maybe I could wear a police outfit to a non-halloween costume party, get pulled over on the way, and not get cited...but I bet if they saw the NRA sticker on my car in the same situation I would be taking the ride...

That is his point.

Unless that isn't his point, then I really have no idea what his point is haha.

canyon runner
06-10-2011, 9:56 PM
Does anyone know the story of Theus (sp) the open carry guy ? He was charged for carrying an unloaded gun like 900 something feet from a school. The police charged him anyway saying the law is the law. No one in the media or general public ever supported this guy.

Maybe it takes arresting a person like this girl to get mainstream attention about how stupid California laws are and how they turn good honest people into criminals.

Rattlehead
06-10-2011, 10:08 PM
I know I might be a jerk for this, but I would lean towards caling the cops on her and getting her arrested.

I got a good laugh out of this.

There are much more important things to argue about than someone that doesn't want to cause any harm, and isn't causing any harm.

Loosen up.

ckprax
06-10-2011, 11:14 PM
well, are you suggesting that people should be allowed to break the law ? or only certain laws ?

isnt justice blind and the same for everyone ?

I am not suggesting that people break the law. I imagine that she is completely ignorant of the law. My comment was more about the fact that in your other thread you admit to breaking the law by cheating on your taxes.

This thread is so ironic... you are a crook and you want to turn in this girl for wearing an imitation firearm.

nagorb
06-11-2011, 1:34 AM
Does anyone know the story of Theus (sp) the open carry guy ? He was charged for carrying an unloaded gun like 900 something feet from a school. The police charged him anyway saying the law is the law. No one in the media or general public ever supported this guy.

Maybe it takes arresting a person like this girl to get mainstream attention about how stupid California laws are and how they turn good honest people into criminals.

Sounds like a great idea! Go get yourself arrested and we'll make sure to make a martyr out of you!

GrizzlyGuy
06-11-2011, 7:49 AM
well, to be honest i think it would be good for gun rights. i mean, most people outside of the gun community dont realize how stupid our gun laws are and how good honest people are being locked in cages over them.

maybe something like a poor girl at a beach volleyball tournament getting locked up would shed some light to the average person about how unjust our gun laws are.

It's not your perrogative to decide to make her a martyr for our cause. If you want to be a martyr, fine. Strap on an imitation firearm and call the cops on yourself or arrange for someone else to call them on you. Leave the lady out of it, collateral damage isn't cool.

Mesa Tactical
06-11-2011, 7:53 AM
well, are you suggesting that people should be allowed to break the law ? or only certain laws ?

isnt justice blind and the same for everyone ?

Many laws are idiotic. While I certainly believe in equal application of the law for everyone, and while I personally follow the law as closely as I can, I sure as hell am not going to call the cops on an otherwise law-abiding person who carries a gun or smokes a joint.

You're a screwy guy. You seem to believe that expanding gun ownership into communities where gun ownership is not traditional will do nothing for gun rights (http://calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=6570780#post6570780), but arresting some innocent chick at a beach volleyball match will help gun rights.

KWA-S
06-12-2011, 5:33 AM
Does anyone know the story of Theus (sp) the open carry guy ? He was charged for carrying an unloaded gun like 900 something feet from a school. The police charged him anyway saying the law is the law. No one in the media or general public ever supported this guy.

Maybe it takes arresting a person like this girl to get mainstream attention about how stupid California laws are and how they turn good honest people into criminals.

That would be Theseus, he was on private property 900 or so feet from the school. The law makes exemption for private property. The case gets so much attention on Calguns as he was unfairly charged.

Just curious, would you prefer someone notify you of a law you unknowingly broke, so you can respond to that infraction, or called the cops, who may arrest and charge you? I'd prefer the former myself.

randian
06-12-2011, 6:15 AM
I think the OP's point was, "Why does she get to carry an imitation firearm when a guy that looks like me and actually has experience with firearms would be proned out on the concrete about twenty seconds after stepping out of my house for doing the same thing".

The answer is sexism. Women get a pass at every point in the criminal justice system.