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Dr. Peter Venkman
12-15-2006, 09:46 PM
FractionalFlyer tried to send me some ammo from Utah about a month ago and UPS told him he needed to have some sort of contract if I recall correctly about doing it.

What's the normal procedure for shipping ammo from out of state into California?

hoffmang
12-15-2006, 09:52 PM
You should look up the rules for shipping ORM-D packages. Senders may need permits, especially after 9/11.

-Gene

Sutcliffe
12-15-2006, 10:01 PM
materials at the very least. I'm certain your shipper will tack on an additional charge. I'm not certain of any federal or state laws you'd have to consider.

LAK Supply
12-15-2006, 10:46 PM
I shipped probably 60,000+ rounds of 7.62x39 over 3 or 4 months via FedEx earlier this year. Nearly all were in the factory-marked 1000 and 640 round cases (labeled as ammunition, ORM-D, etc.) and I never once encountered a problem.

Tell him to call FedEx and ask what markings they require on the outside of the box, package it up, mark the box as required, and send it. FedEx has been very good to me in this area!!

EOD Guy
12-16-2006, 06:44 AM
Here is an excerpt from the DOT regulations (49CFR) on shipping small arms ammunition:

Code of Federal Regulations, Title 49, Part 173

173.63 Packaging exceptions

(b) Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices. (1) Cartridges, small arms and cartridges power devices (which are used to project fastening devices) which have been classed as a Division 1.4S explosive may be reclassed, offered for transportation, and transported as ORM-D material when packaged in accordance with paragraph (b)(2) of this section; such transportation is excepted from the requirements of subparts E (Labeling) and F (Placarding) of part 172 of this subchapter. Cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices that may be shipped as ORM-D material is limited to:

(i) Ammunition for rifle, pistol, or shotgun;
(ii) Ammunition with inert projectiles or blank ammunition;
(iii) Ammunition having no tear gas, incendiary, or detonating explosive projectiles;
(iv) Ammunition not exceeding 12.7 mm (50 caliber or 0.5 inch) for rifle or pistol, cartridges or 8 gauge for shotshells; and
(v) Cartridges power devices which are use to project fastening devices.

(2) Packaging for cartridges, small arms, and cartridges power devices as ORM-D material must be as follows:
(i) Ammunition must be packed in inside boxes, or in partitions which fit snugly in the outside packaging, or in metal clips;
(ii) Primers must be protected from accidental initiation;
(iii) Inside boxes, partitions or metal clips must be packed in securely-closed strong outside packagings;
(iv) Maximum gross weight is limited to 30 Kg (66 pounds) per package; and
(v) Cartridges, power devices which are used to project fastening devices and 22 caliber rim-fire cartridges may be packaged loose in strong outside packagings.

Part 172 (Marking)

172.316 Packagings containing material classed as ORM-D

(a) Each non-bulk packaging containing a material classed as ORM-D must be marked on at least one side or end with the ORM-D designation immediately following or below the proper shipping name of the material (Cartridges, Small Arms). The ORM designation must be placed within a rectangle that is approximately 6.3 mm (0.25 inches) larger on each side than the designation.

(b) The marking ORM-D is the certification by the person offering the packaging for transportation that the material is properly described, classed, packaged, marked and labeled (when appropriate) and in proper condition for transportation according to the applicable regulations of this subchapter.

paladin4415
12-16-2006, 08:54 AM
I have shipped ammo with UPS several times. Just mark the carton with ORM-D labels and tell them its small arms ammo and its no problem. You have to send it by ground transport is all.

This is the label I use:

http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h144/paladin4415/ORMDLabel.gif