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Liberty1
06-07-2011, 7:48 AM
Who needs a gun WHEN TAKING A WORK BREAK?
http://www.kcra.com/news/28152073/detail.html


Who needs a gun IN A PARK?
http://www.kcra.com/video/27876588/detail.html


Who needs a gun IN AN ART GALLERY?
http://www.kcra.com/video/27919154/detail.html

NoJoke
06-07-2011, 8:06 AM
//dons a hat of denial//

Yeah, well I don't like that part of town anyway....
Yeah, well, I'd never go where there aren't security cameras.....
Yeah, well, what kind of clothes was she wearing.....
Yeah, well, she was probably doing something she shouldn't have been doing....

//removes the hat of denial//

...straps on a snubby .38 special!

Ubermcoupe
06-07-2011, 9:35 AM
Who needs a gun ...

I do!:D

Wernher von Browning
06-07-2011, 9:35 AM
//dons a hat of denial//

Yeah, well I don't like that part of town anyway....
Yeah, well, I'd never go where there aren't security cameras.....
Yeah, well, what kind of clothes was she wearing.....
Yeah, well, she was probably doing something she shouldn't have been doing....

//removes the hat of denial//

...straps on a snubby .38 special!


I like the Hat of Denial though. Where can I get one? Does it look like this?
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/02_04/BaracKOsamaAP_468x789.jpg

This is a new one for me; I already gots a Hat of de Nile.
http://www.fun-shop.com/show_image.php?im=/img/08/81047.jpg&size=300

Vanilla Gorilla
06-07-2011, 1:09 PM
who needs to pay more attention to their surroundings is the real question i am sorry but a gun would not have helped in any of these situations because the victims were more than likely not paying attention to their surroundings

r6raff
06-07-2011, 3:02 PM
who needs to pay more attention to their surroundings is the real question i am sorry but a gun would not have helped in any of these situations because the victims were more than likely not paying attention to their surroundings

You can't say that for sure, seems like you are assuming a little bit. With both the rape cases there would have been more than likely an opportunity to produce the weapon, now whether that would have aided the victim or not at this point, is just speculation. Unless the victims were beat over the head from behind into unconsciousness I think there is a possibility for defense.

A friend of mines dad was a "victim" of an attempted robbery... as soon as he lifted his shirt, the perp saw his CCW and bolted, he didn't even have to pull the pistol. His CCW saved him and he didn't even have to draw, who's to say that in any of these cases a similar outcome could have occured. Anyone who is going to use force on a woman in a dark alley or room is probably a coward anyways. One day hopefully the majority will have the freedom to defend themselves from this scum of the earth.

But I do agree, without alertness, a weapon is useless, I merely disagree at the assumption that a weapon couldn't have changes the tides.

I believe that our greatest weapon is our mind and our actions, a pistol, a rifle or a knife are all just tools, completely useless without action.

shy 7th
06-07-2011, 4:15 PM
What about the Yale student who went to Lab and the Lab tech killed her and stuffed her in a wall?

Coincidentally the same last name as the OP's first article...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/03/us-crime-yale-murder-idUSTRE7526YP20110603

Glock22Fan
06-07-2011, 6:04 PM
who needs to pay more attention to their surroundings is the real question i am sorry but a gun would not have helped in any of these situations because the victims were more than likely not paying attention to their surroundings

What you say is possible, but incredibly arrogant. How the heck do you know? My wife is always alert in dark, deserted places (well, actually, not often, as she avoids them). However, if she had to go in such a place, and if she had a CCW, I know that she'd have her revolver out of sight but in her hand. I know I would as well, though mugging would be my fear rather than rape.

And anyway, having a gun might not have saved their lives, not having a gun didn't even give them that chance. If one life is saved for every thousand people carrying, it is worth it. I suspect the actual figure is much higher.

What you say is akin to saying "No point in having a fire extinguisher in your kitchen. Lots of houses with one burn down, as the householder probably wouldn't actually be there to use it anyway."

Luieburger
06-07-2011, 6:05 PM
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Lead-Thrower
06-07-2011, 8:28 PM
who needs to pay more attention to their surroundings is the real question i am sorry but a gun would not have helped in any of these situations because the victims were more than likely not paying attention to their surroundings

Here is the problem: people always say "A gun wouldn't have helped". Well, I'm sorry, but were you there to witness the crime and determine without a reasonable doubt that a gun would not have helped? Who are you to play God in that manner? This kind of thinking is all too common within the anti-gun crowd...

Liberty1
06-27-2011, 1:18 AM
Who needs a gun IN PEORIA ILLINIOS?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lHzJ2PFQcMEJ:peoriachronicle.com/+http://peoriachronicle.com/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

conanobrennan
06-27-2011, 1:26 AM
However, if she had to go in such a place, and if she had a CCW, I know that she'd have her revolver out of sight but in her hand.

yeah, that seems a bit reckless. I realize that if she had a CCW she would have some training but that still seems overly aggressive.

verapakill
06-27-2011, 2:23 AM
Great Thread

I will be showing as many people this stuff

PANTyRAiD
06-27-2011, 2:39 AM
who needs to pay more attention to their surroundings is the real question i am sorry but a gun would not have helped in any of these situations because the victims were more than likely not paying attention to their surroundings

In the incident where the girl was raped in the park bathroom; how do you know the perp was not hiding in deep cover beneath a bush with binoculars? Probably scoping and waiting for a cute girl to walk in alone...

If you expect people to check every bush and dark corner before going anywhere or doing anything, then you are something else...

Anchors
06-27-2011, 5:50 AM
//dons a hat of denial//

Yeah, well I don't like that part of town anyway....
Yeah, well, I'd never go where there aren't security cameras.....
Yeah, well, what kind of clothes was she wearing.....
Yeah, well, she was probably doing something she shouldn't have been doing....

//removes the hat of denial//

...straps on a snubby .38 special!

My favorite!
My response is always, "Do you think people do robberies and home invasions in the ghetto? Or do you think they do them out here where they know they'll be things worth money in the house?"....

Then they shut up and get bummed.

biker777
06-27-2011, 8:35 AM
yeah, that seems a bit reckless. I realize that if she had a CCW she would have some training but that still seems overly aggressive.


:troll: ??

fd15k
06-27-2011, 8:59 AM
Who needs a gun IN PEORIA ILLINIOS?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lHzJ2PFQcMEJ:peoriachronicle.com/+http://peoriachronicle.com/&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&source=www.google.com

http://www.pjstar.com/news/x2069925100/Account-of-racist-Peoria-mob-spurs-national-attention

NotEnufGarage
06-27-2011, 11:57 AM
who needs to pay more attention to their surroundings is the real question i am sorry but a gun would not have helped in any of these situations because the victims were more than likely not paying attention to their surroundings

Yes, but if they'd attended the mandatory CCW training, they probably would have been paying better attention.

conanobrennan
06-27-2011, 2:04 PM
:troll: ??

totally serious. that statement implies a predisposition to shoot first imo. I'm a really quiet walker and if i came around the corner minding my own business i wouldn't want to get drawn down on.

she's fine to be scared but i wouldn't want her to shoot because they become startled

Paladin
06-27-2011, 2:17 PM
Who needs a gun WHEN TAKING A WORK BREAK?
http://www.kcra.com/news/28152073/detail.html


Who needs a gun IN A PARK?
http://www.kcra.com/video/27876588/detail.html


Who needs a gun IN AN ART GALLERY?
http://www.kcra.com/video/27919154/detail.html

Who needs a gun WHEN PUMPING GAS?
http://www.whiotv.com/video/28315602/index.html

Joewy
06-27-2011, 2:37 PM
Well, I live in Wyoming and today I went down to the local minimart to get some stuff and like usual I OC. Some tourist woman started pointing at me and screaming "He's got a gun!"
When noone else said anything she calmed down a little and started screaming at me on how frightened she was because of my gun. I finally told her that she was in Wyoming. If it scared her than she is free to go home... What a jerk. By the way. She was from California...

Palmaris
06-27-2011, 10:48 PM
This guy was needed a gun, but didn't have it :http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/06/man-injured-pit-bull-robbery-attack-.html

JagerTroop
06-27-2011, 11:22 PM
yeah, that seems a bit reckless. I realize that if she had a CCW she would have some training but that still seems overly aggressive.

That seems quite reasonable, given the 7yd rule. Do you actually know how long it takes to draw from a concealed holster/purse?

Maybe you shouldn't go tiptoeing through parking garages and alleys late at night, startling armed women. Just a thought.

Anchors
06-28-2011, 3:14 AM
Well, I live in Wyoming and today I went down to the local minimart to get some stuff and like usual I OC. Some tourist woman started pointing at me and screaming "He's got a gun!"
When noone else said anything she calmed down a little and started screaming at me on how frightened she was because of my gun. I finally told her that she was in Wyoming. If it scared her than she is free to go home... What a jerk. By the way. She was from California...

Are you serious? Like did this really happen?
I would laugh so hard.

How the hell did she know you weren't a LEO, security guard, etc.
Not all of them wear uniforms...

She must really freak out every time she goes to a bank or to a store when the armed car guy comes in...

Kid Stanislaus
06-28-2011, 5:22 AM
yeah, that seems a bit reckless. I realize that if she had a CCW she would have some training but that still seems overly aggressive.

Not to me it doesn't. I've done that very thing. Having a gun does you no good if you're quickly assaulted by a larger & stronger person unless its in your hand when the attack occurs. ;)

Kid Stanislaus
06-28-2011, 5:24 AM
In the incident where the girl was raped in the park bathroom; how do you know the perp was not hiding in deep cover beneath a bush with binoculars? Probably scoping and waiting for a cute girl to walk in alone...If you expect people to check every bush and dark corner before going anywhere or doing anything, then you are something else...

Criminals have no need to hide when people walk about in condition white.

ccmc
06-28-2011, 6:02 AM
Here is the problem: people always say "A gun wouldn't have helped". Well, I'm sorry, but were you there to witness the crime and determine without a reasonable doubt that a gun would not have helped? Who are you to play God in that manner? This kind of thinking is all too common within the anti-gun crowd...

I just had this discussion with an anti-gun friend about the brutal robbery/killing in the pharmacy in NY. I said a criminal in a state like NY could be reasonably sure if he robbed a business that no customers would be armed due to NY's strict gun laws. He said a having a gun wouldn't have helped any of the customers, but was silent when I asked how things could have been any worse.

cineski
06-28-2011, 7:05 AM
You arm chair quarterback :mad:. So all the women raped and killed should have known better?!

who needs to pay more attention to their surroundings is the real question i am sorry but a gun would not have helped in any of these situations because the victims were more than likely not paying attention to their surroundings

Window_Seat
06-28-2011, 7:51 AM
Criminals have no need to hide when people walk about in condition white.

One doesn't need a criminal for condition white. The perp could be something as inanimate as a barrier, but she could have been a prime candidate for anything worse just based on her state of mental awareness.

Chances are that she had never attended self defense seminars of any kind, ever in her life.

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Erik.

CessnaDriver
06-28-2011, 7:57 AM
Who needs a gun?


NOT US!

NOT YOU!

Important people do.

People like legislators, judges and Sean Penn!!!

Knife2aGunFight
06-28-2011, 8:48 AM
i have 2 many guns already...if theres such thing lolz!