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enchantor
12-14-2006, 10:04 AM
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wildcard
12-14-2006, 10:18 AM
Here's some good reading for you regarding various calibers used for long range shooting and/ or "sniping." http://www.snipercentral.com/caliber.htm

I can't make any comparisons, but I have no problems reaching 1000 yds with my .308 Remington 700 using match grade ammo (specifically Federal Gold Medal Match 168 gr).

brando
12-14-2006, 11:05 AM
Good rifle indeed. If you're really talking about shooting past 1000m then .300winmag or better .338Lapmag would be a smarter choice. The Winmag is about as available as .308 ammo and rifle-wise. The Lapmag is quite a bit more expensive, though you're talking about near .50BMG ballistics.

enchantor
12-14-2006, 11:47 AM
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cornholio1
12-14-2006, 11:50 AM
Anyone know what 300 WM goes for at say Turners? I might be leaning towards getting a remington 700 in 300 WM. I found a PSS for about $500 (W/o a stock, but still worth it if I'm not mistaken)


There was a PSS in the classified section recently. My research indicated the prices to be around $700+. I am told the PSS model is the same as the new P model. If you can find an old 700 varmit, then that would be the best in my eyes.

brando
12-14-2006, 12:13 PM
The PSS is a fantastic starter bolt-rifle. I've built quite a few good lead slingers with that base model.

bwiese
12-14-2006, 12:14 PM
Do remember that 300WinMag wears out bbls much more quickly than 308, in part due to chamber erosion as well as bore wear.

And 300WM is a belted mag so precision headspacing control issues exist.

Generally 300WinMag etc is not as accurate as 308, either - for same quality gun and same care in ammo loading/component quality.

You will notice rifle co's like HS Precision warrant their 300WM rifles to be 1MOA, but their 308s to be 1/2 MOA or less.

If you're getting your first accurate bolt gun, get a 308.

That Steyr may be a fine rifle. But IMHO the environment for Remmys is much better due to easy parts availiabilty (factory/aftermarket), etc. and most Remmy PSS & LTRs do very very well outta the box. If you don't like those, just have a sharp gunsmith rebarrel 'em (John Mathews of SJ's Almaden Gun Exchange has done some *beautiful* work - 'same hole' guns.)

brando
12-14-2006, 1:28 PM
He's correct. The Rem700 action is the 1911 of bolt-rifles ;)

xenophobe
12-14-2006, 2:16 PM
Steyr rotary mags tend to be fragile and break easily. They are not cheap to replace. I would get a custom Remington 700 before an overpriced Steyr.

enchantor
12-14-2006, 2:17 PM
Good to know

Jarhead4
12-14-2006, 2:19 PM
He's correct. The Rem700 action is the 1911 of bolt-rifles ;)

This might be off topic, but is the Rem700 Action based on the Mauser Action?

Fjold
12-14-2006, 2:39 PM
This might be off topic, but is the Rem700 Action based on the Mauser Action?

No, the model 70 Winchester and the 03'A3 are based on the Mauser.

The Remington 700 action is based on a piece of pipe. Remington designed the 700 action to be built out of round barstock with the fewest machining steps possible. That's why it's completely round and the recoil lug is a washer sandwiched between the barrel and the action.

rksimple
12-14-2006, 3:04 PM
Get a 308. When it comes to precision riflery, practice is what will make the difference between hitting your target and missing, not the caliber (.308 vs. 300WM) Here is my Savage 10fp in .308, with a Bell & Carlson Medalist stock and bushnell 3200 10x. Less than $1000 in the rifle as it sits.

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/rksimple/IMG_0037.jpg

It shoots OK, too...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b82/rksimple/Feb-Mar06022.jpg

5968
12-14-2006, 3:55 PM
I' would skip the Styer and go with a Remington 700 or a Winchester Stealth.

Jarhead4
12-14-2006, 4:27 PM
No, the model 70 Winchester and the 03'A3 are based on the Mauser.

The Remington 700 action is based on a piece of pipe. Remington designed the 700 action to be built out of round barstock with the fewest machining steps possible. That's why it's completely round and the recoil lug is a washer sandwiched between the barrel and the action.

Thanks Fjold!!!!