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12-14-2006, 9:16 AM
I am looking for your most accurate hair splitting loads in various calibers. I am reloading for .308, .300 win mag ( I want a kick *** load for it), and .223. I have a great load for the .223 but always looking to find something better. I have a boatload of different powders and bullet weights for all and am trying to zero in on the ability to keep one powder and one bullet weight for all. I am looking for accuracy here not a hunting bullet. also loads for 9mm, .38 super, .38 special, .357 mag, .40s&w, .45 acp are also appreciated. I am looking for one holers at 300yds here or darn close. For the .300 win mag and .308 loads I am looking to take em out to 1,000 yds too. so something that will stay stable to that distance would be great.
12-14-2006, 10:08 AM
No one is going to be able to give you a be all end all load for your guns that will give you "one holers at 300". Loads are always going to be firearm specific, and to even get a load that will shoot less than .5MOA in your guns out to 1000 yards will most likely be very specific for your rifle and very different from loads from other persons' rifles.
It's going to be very important to know the rifle type, barrel length, and twist rate for your .223 rifle since the bullets that will be recommended for you are very dependent on those specifications.
As far as .308, assuming 1 in 12" twist or better, you're going to pick either 155 or 175gr bullets.
Lapua brass for both .223 and .308. I use LC on the short line (200 and 300 yards), but Lapua for 600 yards.
Varget and RL15 are the basic powders for 308 and the most common recipes you'll see for .308 will involve one of those two powders.
.223 for service rifle will use either Varget, RL15, or N140.
Primers are a touchy area. Buy some Remington, CCI, and Federal match/benchrest primers. Test them all. Pick the ones that give the best consistency.
Can't help you on the 300 Winchester Magnum.
That said, in .308 I'm using 44.6gr Varget, 175gr Sierra Match King, CCI BR2, and Lapua brass in a Savage 10FP with a factory 26" barrel. 2775fps 10' from the muzzle.
For .223, I'm using 24.0gr RL15, 77gr Noslers, CCI BR4, and Lake City brass in a 20" White Oak Armament upper receiver (AR service rifle). 2730fps. This is my short line load (200 and 300 yards) for NRA/CMP highpower service rifle competition. 24.5gr RL15, 80gr Sierra Match Kings, CCI BR4, and Lapua brass in the same rifle for the 600 yard line in NRA/CMP highpower service rifle competition. This is moving at 2775fps (fast for an 80gr, but no pressure signs -- no flattening of primers, cratering, or piercing).
12-14-2006, 10:37 AM
Well for the 308:
A large number of shooters use the 154-155 grain Lapua, Berger, Nosler and SMK match bullets for long range becasue of all the Palma experience and information.
Other LR shooters like the 168 and 175 SMK's or Bergers but the 168 seem to have trouble with stability in a number of rifles because they are going subsonic before 1000 yards. If your gun will not make 2800 fps at the muzzle with the 168's then use the 154-155's or 175s
Powders favored seem to be AR2208 (varget) IMR4064, IMR4895
In the 300 I would go with the 190-20 grain SMK's Bergers, Lapuas etc for the better drag using either H4350 or even H4831SC
I don't shoot the my 308 or my 300 at long distance anymore, I use a 6.5x284 with the 142 grain SMK as it's such a good bullet and much easier on the shoulder.
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