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SES50
12-14-2006, 08:55 AM
I keep seeing references in different threads about the governator passing something that will not allow any more lowers to be added to the list. Is this just people having the wrong information or did something happen that I did not hear about?
Inquiring minds want to know.
E Pluribus Unum
12-14-2006, 09:00 AM
As I understand it. As of January 2007 the DOJ loses the ability to add to the list. It turns this over to the courts. The DOJ pushed for this. They did not want to have the authority.
bwiese
12-14-2006, 11:02 AM
As of January 2007 the DOJ loses the ability to
add to the list.
Correct. What's there stays (existing lists do not disappear).
It turns this over to the courts.
No, courts cannot declare new AWs either. A gun is or isn't an AW by name or by features suite, and that's it. A court can determine if a given gun is or isn't an AW by these standards, but it cannot be requested (after Jan 1) via a 12276.5 motion to add new makes/models to the list, and the DOJ cannot add new "series" guns to the list.
The DOJ pushed for this. They did not want to have the authority.
Yes.
SES50
12-14-2006, 12:49 PM
So is this a good thing or a bad thing for us?
Crazed_SS
12-14-2006, 12:51 PM
So is this a good thing or a bad thing for us?
Good and bad.. depending on your POV
Good because people will still be able to buy lowers and built fixed-mag or gripless rifles.
Bad because we're gonna be stuck with fixed-mag or gripless rifles.
hoffmang
12-14-2006, 01:13 PM
Not all magazine fixes are as annoying as what is currently on the market :)
1/1/2007.
-Gene
mikehaas
12-14-2006, 01:49 PM
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2006&summary=ab2728
Mike
Blacktail 8541
12-14-2006, 02:41 PM
Not all magazine fixes are as annoying as what is currently on the market :)
1/1/2007.
-Gene
Gene, yours and others secrets are killing us. We KNOW you guys have something very good in store for us, but the suspence is just about to the unberable point:p I can hardly wait!
double_action
12-14-2006, 03:18 PM
Gene, yours and others secrets are killing us. We KNOW you guys have something very good in store for us, but the suspence is just about to the unberable point:p I can hardly wait!
TWO WEEKS!!!!
grammaton76
12-14-2006, 03:21 PM
Gene, yours and others secrets are killing us. We KNOW you guys have something very good in store for us, but the suspence is just about to the unberable point:p I can hardly wait!
Eh, no need for suspense, just go have fun with a CA-compliant grip and no evil features. :p
Blacktail 8541
12-14-2006, 03:31 PM
Waiting for the new MM grip, or to see whats up with the announcements before I buy anything else.
Blacktail 8541
12-14-2006, 03:32 PM
Should have added that I already have a lot of fun with the 2 fixed mag rifles I have already, just waiting to finish #3.
hoffmang
12-14-2006, 03:47 PM
Please don't wait for our 1/1/2007 fun on buying rifles and accessories. You'll want them all.
-Gene
Scarecrow Repair
12-14-2006, 03:53 PM
Gene, yours and others secrets are killing us. We KNOW you guys have something very good in store for us, but the suspence is just about to the unberable point:p I can hardly wait!
I have seen it! Yes, it's gonna be jess fine. Gene's not boss around here for being dumb.
sierratangofoxtrotunion
12-14-2006, 06:34 PM
Gene, yours and others secrets are killing us. We KNOW you guys have something very good in store for us, but the suspence is just about to the unberable point:p I can hardly wait!
Yeah, Gene's pulling the Bill Weise suspense / ambiguity / teaser thing now too! :rolleyes:
Scarecrow Repair
12-14-2006, 09:00 PM
FREE FIREWOOD! I have a ton of old pallets to get rid of.
Sell 'em to Iggy for target practice!
shooterx10
12-15-2006, 09:28 AM
Good and bad.. depending on your POV
Good because people will still be able to buy lowers and built fixed-mag or gripless rifles.
Bad because we're gonna be stuck with fixed-mag or gripless rifles.
Heck, I'd rather have a working AR or AK with castration, neutered, spayed, surgery, whatever to make it legal in this state than NOT having an AR or AK at all! :rolleyes:
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