what happened to the 'dissassembly of action' thing from november?

[yallknowho]

i remember the DOJ posting a memo saying a screw-attached fixed mag isn't sufficient and a fixed mag removal requires disassembly of the action to be considered fixed. did anything happen with this? or was it just a fart in a tornado?

[hoffmang]

The DOJ took our comments on all the problems with that rulemaking and is sitting on them right now. We may not hear much for a while, or we may hear nothing. I have no inside scoop on that, but I do know that they have some serious problems with the Proposed Regulation once they try to take it to the Office of Administrative Law.

-Gene

[SemiAutoSam]

I wonder if it has anything to do with my sending the OAL copies of the e mails from AN to the Brady camp.

And I also sent a CC of my letter to Jeff Amado to the OAL.

[bwiese]

but I do know that they have some serious problems with the Proposed Regulation once they try to take it to the Office of Administrative Law.


Yes, and they have a serious internal problem with what Iggy has apparently done while unsupervised. Seems like it's still in orbit trying to get resolved.

[mAdbRaIn]

I'm sorry for asking Mr. Weise, but who is Iggy and what did he do? Is he trying to screw us over or is he pro-gun? Do you think they are going to list and make all the OLLs owners into Felons?

[hoffmang]

Bill can speak for himself, but to answer your questions:

1. Iggy is Special Agent Iggy Chin who is an firearms enforcement officer for CA DOJ Firearms. I don't think he is a fan of private gun ownership. However, his mis-steps have more to do with a lack of legal guidance from the DOJ attorneys tasked with interpreting the law.

2. Personal belief founded on lots of evidence including emails from Alison Merilees to HCI is that they will not list. The CA DOJ Firearms division lobbied hard to have their ability to listen taken away and they got that passed such that listing can not occur after 1/1/2007.

3. CA DOJ can not turn you into a felon. In fact, that's part of the trouble that they have with their Rulemaking attempt. They don't have the authority to make things that are currently legal illegal.

-Gene

[GJJ]

Icky is a government bureaucrat that exists for no other reason than to make the lives of gunowners difficult. He does this because he has no marketable skills that a real company could use to make a profit. He does not care that he is basically tormenting gunowners over the shape of the handle they use to hold their gun because the government gives him money. Deep down, he knows this whole thing is a waste of everyones time. No lives will be lost or saved. Your tax dollars at work.

Icky is hated by gunowners, especially Bill Wiese.

[tacticalcity]

As I understand it, as of January 1st possession of up to 2 assault rifles will no longer be a felony but a misdemeanor punishable by a hefty fine and confiscation of your rifle. They even have a procedure in place to get the rifle back, if you can prove it was not an assault rifle but an off-list lower and was SB23 compliant. Not that I fully understand what those procedures are. Until the get the verbiage change passed, which they seem to making no effort to do at the moment, maglocks are still ok.

If the verbiage changes to make maglocks illegal you’ll still have the option of a gripless build. The monster-man grip and the U15 stock (I think it’s called a U15) will still be legal options for you, or so the masses claim.

If they do list, then you have to register your lowers and pay the tax. Not sure if that is an annual or one time thing. Then there are transport restrictions, however you can remove your maglock and use it as the designer intended.

In any case, just keep an eye on www.CalGuns.com and try not to panic. Things are working out nicely for OLL owners.

[tacticalcity]

Hate is such a strong word, come on now...it's Christmas ;-)

"Icky is hated by gunowners, especially Bill Wiese."

[bwiese]

Icky is a government bureaucrat that exists for no other reason than to make the lives of gunowners difficult. He does this because he has no marketable skills that a real company could use to make a profit. He does not care that he is basically tormenting gunowners over the shape of the handle they use to hold their gun because the government gives him money. Deep down, he knows this whole thing is a waste of everyones time. No lives will be lost or saved. Your tax dollars at work.

Icky is hated by gunowners, especially Bill Wiese.

Um, it's "Iggy".

I don't hate him. In particular, he provides me (and many others) a great deal of merriment. When I hear Iggy stories, my heart skips a beat....

I do feel, with his skills & talents, that an alternate career may be more suitable. What that career is, I don't know.

I'm not sure if Iggy always perjures himself when he testifies. Some of it could be bare-boned incompetence, although the Tabor search warrant misstatements are profoundly disturbing. (This was an FFL AW case that was laughed out of court a couple of years ago.)

[pacificcoast]

As I understand it, as of January 1st possession of up to 2 assault rifles will no longer be a felony but a misdemeanor punishable by a hefty fine and confiscation of your rifle. They even have a procedure in place to get the rifle back, if you can prove it was not an assault rifle but an off-list lower and was SB23 compliant. Not that I fully understand what those procedures are. Until the get the verbiage change passed, which they seem to making no effort to do at the moment, maglocks are still ok.

If the verbiage changes to make maglocks illegal you’ll still have the option of a gripless build. The monster-man grip and the U15 stock (I think it’s called a U15) will still be legal options for you, or so the masses claim.

If they do list, then you have to register your lowers and pay the tax. Not sure if that is an annual or one time thing. Then there are transport restrictions, however you can remove your maglock and use it as the designer intended.

In any case, just keep an eye on www.CalGuns.com and try not to panic. Things are working out nicely for OLL owners.

possession and transportation of an assault weapon will still be a felony come January 1st. what AB2728 did was give DAs the option of prosecuting it as a nuisance (however unlikely or likely you personally believe that'll be).

[GJJ]

I like the name Icky better.

[E Pluribus Unum]

I do feel, with his skills & talents, that an alternate career may be more suitable. What that career is, I don't know.


Due to his vast experience in firearms.... maybe a bullet proof vest test dummy?

[TheMan]

Due to his vast experience in firearms.... maybe a bullet proof vest test dummy?

Maybe a hunting guide at a furniture store.

[AJAX22]

I'm inclined to believe he'd go for a career in forestry, possibly a lumberjack, its more sporting to hunt your favorite pray 'on the hoof' so to speak.

[xenophobe]

possession and transportation of an unregistered assault weapon will still be a felony come January 1st. what AB2728 did was give DAs the option of prosecuting it as a nuisance (however unlikely or likely you personally believe that'll be).

Fixed it for you. :p