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KandyRedCoi
06-02-2011, 12:55 AM
i heard shipment for the GI Slings from Appleseed may take some time, and i really dont want to push it til the last minute

so what other alternatives would i have? something over the counter and that wouldnt need any "modifications"

i would need 3, in black, preferably NYLON to go on:

1 - Ruger 10/22 with Archangel Target Stock

1 - Remington 597 (box stock) i still need to mount a stud to this one

1 - Mossberg tactical 22

any info would be greatly appreciated

THANK YOU!

Mr. Wannabe High Profile Banger
06-02-2011, 2:34 AM
Viking tactics sling is the only sling i will ever use.

Charles M. Failure
06-02-2011, 2:55 AM
If stock GI will do:

http://blackrifleworks.com/usgi-1-14-heavy-duty-nylon-web-sling-black-p-369.html

Works for me...

ccandgc
06-02-2011, 5:27 AM
most surplus stores have basically the same sling that AS sells. Although the AS slings I got look to be better quality than the surplus stores cheap chinese copies.

pennys dad
06-02-2011, 7:58 AM
Rock River Arms has them: http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_id=354

ebay: Web Rifle Sling Service Rifle or Carbine Black New USGI

riflegear: i think this will work also - BlackHawk Universal Tactical Sling 1.25"

cheese bay: USGI M1 Garand Cotton Sling OD Green Perfect

http://www.treelinem14.com/M14-USGI-Nylon-Sling-M14SLUS.htm

Also, ask your Shoot Boss if there will be extras there

Dont get the USGI carbine get the Garand one

KandyRedCoi
06-02-2011, 8:32 AM
thanks for the info ill def look into those slings

tacticalcity
06-02-2011, 10:35 AM
The GI Sling is nice because of the price and if all you need is something to make carrying it on your shoulder easier it does the job well. However, when you get into actual running and gunning it is not all that flexible.

I found that when rigged for side carry the Vickers Padded Adjustable 2-Point Sling made by both 5.11 Tactical and Blue Force Gear to be the best in breed. Especially the padded model. It can be adjusted very quickly on the fly while you are running and gunning. Plus, unlike single point slings you won't accidentally turn yourself into a eunuch.

echo6cavedog
06-02-2011, 10:59 AM
Go with a cotton sling. I went to an Appleseed this past weekend and bought one from my shoot boss. My nylon tactical (Uncle Mike's?) sling started to "stretch" under the heat of the sun no matter how often I adjusted it.

KandyRedCoi
06-02-2011, 11:38 AM
^kool thanks

yea i was really looking into a sling strictly for appleseed as i have and will get more tactical slings for other purposes like run n gun etc.

thanks

beaster
06-03-2011, 1:46 PM
Viking tactics sling is the only sling i will ever use.

+1 for versatility and ease of use. I won't post it again for fear of the dupe trolls, but look them up on YouTube. Viking Tactics or VTAC sling should do the trick there.

Joe the Electrician
06-03-2011, 10:01 PM
The Vickers sling is an awesome sling for what it was made for. That was not Appleseed. Get a GI sling, it is the best for Appleseed Period. Since this is the Appleseed forum and Not the mall ninja forum I am guessing what we should be looking at is what works at an Appleseed not what looks cool with my katana machete. Just saying.

Eljay
06-03-2011, 10:07 PM
Fulton Armory, your choice of black or olive drab.

http://fulton-armory.com/slingwebnewblack.aspx

KandyRedCoi
06-03-2011, 11:29 PM
yes this is on the appleseed forum for a reason

i need a sling for appleseed as i previously mentioned

the fulton armory might be the ticket! i hope they are in stock

thank u!

ocabj
06-13-2011, 5:52 AM
The CMP is selling new manufacture USGI style webslings for $7.95 before shipping. Item: 854WEB on the estore.

KandyRedCoi
06-13-2011, 7:20 AM
not familiar with the acronym do u have a link? thanks

Eljay
06-13-2011, 8:55 AM
http://www.thecmp.org/sales.htm

The CMP's great but they're not fast so please keep that in mind.

Eljay
06-13-2011, 8:58 AM
Go with a cotton sling. I went to an Appleseed this past weekend and bought one from my shoot boss. My nylon tactical (Uncle Mike's?) sling started to "stretch" under the heat of the sun no matter how often I adjusted it.

They can also be really slippery, and depending on your clothing sometimes it's hard for them to keep put. I tried nylon at first and had some real problems with it.

KandyRedCoi
06-13-2011, 9:07 AM
http://www.thecmp.org/sales.htm

The CMP's great but they're not fast so please keep that in mind.

thanks

ocabj
06-13-2011, 9:32 AM
I just noticed the OP wanted black. In that case the CMP is not an option. They're in OD Green.

As far as I know, there aren't any true cotton web slings in black. They're all a variation of nylon blend.

I would recommend just going with a leather Turner Sling, a National Match sling which is available in black. Fairly inexpensive and you can get them at a ton of vendors.

http://www.ocabj.net/gallery2/d/11401-2/IMG_8625-pp.jpg

Joe the Electrician
06-18-2011, 9:56 AM
The 1907 or turners slings are great and will do exactly the same as the GI sling. Except that they can be difficult to learn how to use, and there is a limited amount of time at the appleseed. You can learn and be up and shooting with a GI sling much faster. If you are experienced with them by all means bring it, but if not then go with the GI sling.

Also the OD GI sling's have an innate advantage over the black. You can right/mark the sling for different positions. And put you name or mark on them.

smoothy8500
06-18-2011, 6:57 PM
Joe the Electrician just finished the list of reasons why a cotton OD sling is the best choice for an Appleseed rifle. Inexpensive, ease of use, quickly adjusted, won't slip like nylon, can mark positions like prone & seated.

KandyRedCoi
06-18-2011, 7:34 PM
cotton sling would be nice...i need 3 maybe 4

verapakill
06-18-2011, 7:37 PM
I have the TacStrap sling for my rifle and am very happy with it. Here is a link to their thread on here.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=239496&highlight=tacstraps

ElvenSoul
06-18-2011, 7:52 PM
What happened to the guy who used to make custom slings here on Calguns?

TheDeej
06-18-2011, 8:05 PM
I ordered my cotton GI sling from the appleseed store and it got to my door pretty quick.

KandyRedCoi
06-18-2011, 8:35 PM
if all else fails i will do that

andersoncouncil
10-30-2011, 5:34 PM
So it is my understanding that the Appleseed GI slings are 1.25" and that the standard sling swivels for the 10/22 are 1." Does anyone have any advice about how I should go about putting a sling on my 10/22? It has no swivels yet.

Also, I have a synthetic stock. Is that going to be a problem for the wood screws?

Rock6.3
10-30-2011, 5:49 PM
So it is my understanding that the Appleseed GI slings are 1.25" and that the standard sling swivels for the 10/22 are 1." Does anyone have any advice about how I should go about putting a sling on my 10/22? It has no swivels yet.

Also, I have a synthetic stock. Is that going to be a problem for the wood screws?

Get Uncle Mikes quick disconnect 1.25" swivels. They will fit on the swivel stud of any rifle.

If your stock is not wood then the wood screw style is the wrong kind. If your stock (under the barrel) is an open honeycomb then use a machine screw stud and a nut (with locktite)

shmeddie
10-30-2011, 7:05 PM
TI quick slings cuff really fast to get in to. If you are going to just use it for appleseed then it might be too expensive though.

http://www.tacticalintervention.com/quickcuffslingmodeltwo.html

andersoncouncil
11-01-2011, 9:50 PM
Thanks, but yeah those are a bit expensive since it would mainly be for Appleseed.

I don't think my stock is honeycomb. It's divided into about 4 open sections under the barrel, each about 2.5" long. I have the synthetic carbine model, so I think I should be able to fit the front swivel to the barrel band. Please correct me if I am wrong. The stock feels like it might be hollow where the rear swivel would go, but since it's synthetic, it's hard to tell.

Rock6.3
11-02-2011, 6:14 AM
4 open sections = honeycombed. Use a nut.
Hollow rear stock = yes it is hollow, pull of the buttpad and use a nut in there too.

Take the barrel band off and leave it at home. It is not helpful for accuracy in the Ruger 10/22. Connecting a sling mount to it allows you to make the problem even worse.

andersoncouncil
11-02-2011, 10:18 PM
OK. When you said "honeycomb" I thought you were talking about some hexagonal pattern inside the stock. Thanks for the knowledge and the advice.

BuckleNose
11-04-2011, 5:08 PM
If you can use 1.25" slings, I prefer the USGI heavy canvas web slings. They always hold and don't slip. Try this on ebay I loved them. http://www.ebay.com/itm/M1-Garand-GREEN-WEB-SLINGS-3-LOT-/110627275002?_trksid=e17001.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D 63%26clkid%3D3968817889033881617#ht_500wt_1127

Nozzano22
01-23-2012, 12:08 AM
Quick question,

do you need a sling that wraps around your weak arm at the bicep or will a traditional 2 point sling work just as well?

Thanks

ironpete
01-23-2012, 12:07 PM
Quick question,

do you need a sling that wraps around your weak arm at the bicep or will a traditional 2 point sling work just as well?

Thanks

We recommend a USGI web sling because it can do both (wrap around your arm and be used as a traditional 2 point hasty sling). In the end we'll work with whatever you have but once you shoot with a "cuff" sling you'll crave that kind of steadiness.

-Pete

burgundyshawn
02-06-2012, 4:00 PM
I attended my first Appleseed this last weekend and brought an authentic Magpul MS2 for my AR. This did not work well at all for Appleseed, it slipped of my bicep and was a constant problem. The recommended USGI sling is cheap easy to find and use and just plain works. Luckily, an instructor lent me one for the weekend. I also wish I was shooting a 10/22, but I'll save that rant for a different thread.

BoxesOfLiberty
04-25-2012, 12:41 PM
For anyone attending an Appleseed at Chabot, we have gotten the range office to start selling the appropriate USGI cotton web slings. I think they are also stocking the appropriate swivels (the more common 1" swivels are too small for these slings).

KandyRedCoi
04-25-2012, 1:46 PM
i need a local shop that can sell and install the slings for me, im in SoCal and i dont want to bother putting and mounting the sling to my 10/22

i'd rather spend that time shooting and training, so any info would help, i have yet to attend an Appleseed (perks of working weekends :( ) thanks!

Leonidimus
01-13-2013, 10:51 PM
What do you guys think about Viking Tactics' Sniper Sling (http://www.vikingtactics.com/specialtyslings_sniper.html)? Here is the demonstration video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t88LU8dwgOk).

http://www.vikingtactics.com/images/2_specialtyslings/vtac-mk2-wc_specialtysling.jpg

It's expensive but looks really ergonomic. Should be fine for Appleseed too, I suppose. I'm thinking to make a similar DIY sling.

I just don't see the point to use GI sling for prone in combat - it takes too much time to deploy. And if one has 30 seconds, isn't it better to spend this time finding cover and rifle forend support?

Eljay
01-14-2013, 9:58 AM
I just don't see the point to use GI sling for prone in combat - it takes too much time to deploy. And if one has 30 seconds, isn't it better to spend this time finding cover and rifle forend support?

Think of it as a training aid. Appleseed isn't going to pop people out as combat trained. There's no discussion of tactics as well as a host of other things. What it will do is take people who can't make a decent group to save their soul and give them the fundamentals of shooting a rifle in various positions.

rconnerley
01-14-2013, 12:23 PM
Following up on what Eljay said, Appleseed is not a combat training program. We offer instruction in the fundamentals of traditional rifle marksmanship.

Regarding the Viking Tactics' sling, I have not seen one of those on the line and I have not used one myself. After watching the video, I don't see any reason that it would not work for Appleseed, though I would avoid mounting it so that the sling swivel is on the side of the rifle. This will tend to pull the rifle to the side when the sling is properly tensioned.

The benefit of the Viking sling looks like it would be faster to get into a loop sling with it, once you have it set up. However, for use at an Appleseed event, there would be no advantage over the GI sling.

The benefit of the GI sling is that it costs less than $10, is infinitely adjustable, rugged and reliable. They work great for Appleseed, for other applications YMMV.

ocabj
01-14-2013, 1:37 PM
When buying a GI "web" sling, make efforts to get a true GI sling that's cotton and not a modern (re)production that's a nylon or cotton/nylon blend.

Those reproductions tend to slip on the keeper because of the texture of the nylon material.

I would rather get an old, used original cotton GI sling with metal parts that have worn finish rather than a brand new nylon (blend) GI reproduction sling.

Eljay
01-14-2013, 6:12 PM
Agreed about cotton, I bought one nylon sling and it slips down my arm, at least when I'm wearing a jacket.

Just to elaborate on my earlier post a little more - one nice thing about the GI sling is that they're cheap and effective, even if they're not super fast. It makes a lot of sense to me to get one, go to an Appleseed, and see what you think about sling shooting. Then once you've done that you'll be in a good position to make your own determination about what kind of sling you might or might not want for any given purpose, or if it makes more sense to get a bipod or whatever.

Roy Mustang
02-05-2013, 9:46 AM
buy a ron brown leather sling or a les tam; Turner is acceptable but the Brown or the Tam are the best.

Tam >= Brown > Turner

I own all three and they all work good the Tam and the Turner stay in place the best. The Brown and the tam have no give/stretch.

I currently use the Tam on my rifle. (service AR15)

jrygrim
02-05-2013, 2:32 PM
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bubbapug1
02-05-2013, 2:39 PM
Tuners saddlery Service rifle match sling. Its great, easy to use, and if you buy a blemished one they are inexpensive too. Top of the line sling, can't get much better than a Turners.

Buy one direct from Turners saddlery

ljgrasso
02-05-2013, 5:45 PM
Savvy Sniper quad dual QD sling works great.

ClickClickPow
02-17-2013, 6:38 AM
Any where local in orange county/LA county I can pick a USGI sling? I want to ge to next weeks Appleseed but don't have a sling

Update, my google-fu is strong! The Army-Navy mil surp store in Orange had a few to choose from, pricey at $20, but I got it. Apple seeds here I come! I thought I'd post an update for my So Cal Calguns brethren in need of a new cotton green 1.25" USGI sling.

FYI, they had a great selection of camping, outdoor and military supplies, I might go back today and pickup $10 sleeping mat to use at apple seeds for shooting prone

Rock6.3
02-19-2013, 10:57 AM
buy a ron brown leather sling or a les tam; Turner is acceptable but the Brown or the Tam are the best.

Tam >= Brown > Turner

I own all three and they all work good the Tam and the Turner stay in place the best. The Brown and the tam have no give/stretch.

I currently use the Tam on my rifle. (service AR15)

I agree with your positive endorsement of the Les Tam leather sling. I ordered one last year and the quality is astounding. The bigger plus is that it is custom made for you and your rifle (Mr. Tam calls you and does a phone interview to ensure he is building exactly what you need)

Jason95357
01-27-2014, 11:11 PM
When buying a GI "web" sling, make efforts to get a true GI sling that's cotton and not a modern (re)production that's a nylon or cotton/nylon blend.

Those reproductions tend to slip on the keeper because of the texture of the nylon material.

I would rather get an old, used original cotton GI sling with metal parts that have worn finish rather than a brand new nylon (blend) GI reproduction sling.

Argh, I wish I had read this before last night. I ordered 1" nylon slings from the Tech Sights website because they were black and will match my rifle and my son's rifle (and I was already ordering a Tech Sights for his Marlin XT-22R). Oh well, live and learn, eh?

I just ordered the 1.25" cotton slings from the Appleseed store. I'd rather buy the right thing than be frustrated for 8 hours.

as_rocketman
01-28-2014, 11:18 PM
Never fear -- you may find you like the 1" nylons. The GI ones are slightly grippier and easier to find, and I do like those better, but the ones you've ordered will work.

I did my first Appleseeds (and shot the score) using an Uncle Mike's 1" M1907 style sling. :D Those work too. It's not a requirement, we just like the M1 GI best.

joea
02-18-2014, 10:12 PM
I bought two of these new in black... :43:
Military Cotton Web Sling
1 " wide
Military sling for M1/M1A/1903 or AR-15
NRA and CMP Service rifle legal
Military grade hardware
Available in OD Green or Black $13.95
http://www.creedmoorsports.com/shop/Military_Cotton_Web_Sling.html

IPSICK
02-19-2014, 9:18 AM
Following up on what Eljay said, Appleseed is not a combat training program. We offer instruction in the fundamentals of traditional rifle marksmanship.

Regarding the Viking Tactics' sling, I have not seen one of those on the line and I have not used one myself. After watching the video, I don't see any reason that it would not work for Appleseed, though I would avoid mounting it so that the sling swivel is on the side of the rifle. This will tend to pull the rifle to the side when the sling is properly tensioned.

The benefit of the Viking sling looks like it would be faster to get into a loop sling with it, once you have it set up. However, for use at an Appleseed event, there would be no advantage over the GI sling.

The benefit of the GI sling is that it costs less than $10, is infinitely adjustable, rugged and reliable. They work great for Appleseed, for other applications YMMV.

For anyone with doubts in using a VTAC sling or similar in Appleseed, I just want to say I was able to use it with little issue. Appleseed instructors let me work with it just fine. I would heed what I bolded above and I've moved the front attachment point a little bit.

I will have to add that it's not the optimal sling, but if you already have one like I did it can and will work.

Jason95357
02-19-2014, 8:57 PM
I bought two of these new in black... :43:

More black cotton M1 slings (http://www.ammogarand.com/m1-garand-black-cotton-web-sling-new-production-5039s-15039.html)

joea
02-21-2014, 10:41 PM
& at a better price! :facepalm: but they might make it back in shipping though.

Advocate
03-30-2014, 4:26 PM
+1 for versatility and ease of use. I won't post it again for fear of the dupe trolls, but look them up on YouTube. Viking Tactics or VTAC sling should do the trick there.

Plus 2

readysetgo
12-06-2014, 4:29 PM
Ugh, I always get turned around w/ sling set up and there's different ways shown on the net (I guess it's a preference matter). I know I've seen the discussion before but google fu was weak just now and I need to get some LTR's set up right quick. Plus this is already a sticky thread. :D

Can y'all please confirm (or deny but confirm better) I have this right? The arrow representing rifle, muzzle forward.

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g331/readyeseve/Calguns/sling1024x695_zps26b670e3.jpg

Thank you in advance. ;)

as_rocketman
12-10-2014, 7:44 PM
I always miss the new posts in the sticky threads...

ANyway, that is correct. When the sling is flat, the h-buckle -- the part you pull the loop from -- faces away from the stock.

The stock length adjuster can face either way, but I like it too to face away from the stock, as you have it here.

ocabj
12-10-2014, 8:51 PM
Cotton web sling usage instructions: http://www.ray-vin.com/tech/websling/webslinghelp.htm

The adjuster should be facing towards the stock. It makes it easier to adjust the sling when you're slung up.