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CaliforniaLiberal
05-31-2011, 11:37 AM
Please write and call all the Legislators that the Braadys think are important! They need to know how we feel.


Help Law Enforcement Track Down Armed Criminals
Call Your Assembly Member to Support AB 809

Dear ****,

Any day, the California State Assembly will vote on important legislation, AB 809, to help law enforcement track down armed criminals and solve gun crimes. AB 809 would require the retention of purchase and transfer records of all firearms in California.

Help us pass this important bill!

Call Asmblymbr. Gaines Now!
Asmblymbr. Beth Gaines (916) 319-2004

"Support AB 809: Help Law Enforcement Track Down Armed Criminals and Solve Gun Crimes."

Currently, only handgun purchase and transfer records are retained by the Department of Justice (DOJ). This mandatory destruction of long gun records hampers law enforcement efforts to disarm felons, issue domestic violence warrants, and resolve gun crimes. Help us close this dangerous loophole now!

Data from the California Department of Justice shows that over half the guns recovered from armed and prohibited persons are long guns. AB 809 would require the preservation of records for long guns sold or transferred after January 1, 2013.

Please call your Assembly Member and then forward this message to your family and friends.

Sincerely,


Paul Helmke
President, Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence
Dallas M. Stout, Psy.D.
President, California Brady Campaign Chapters


Call Asmblymbr. Gaines today!


Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence

You can also mail a check to: Brady Campaign 1225 Eye Street NW, Suite 1100 Washington, DC 20005

Schrodinger's Cat
05-31-2011, 11:47 AM
over half the guns recovered from armed and prohibited persons are long guns

:whistling:

12voltguy
05-31-2011, 11:48 AM
notice they tell there robot followers what to do, never explain why, cause the reasons are not real,lol
good lil robots, blindly follow without asking questions

GOEX FFF
05-31-2011, 12:52 PM
Wait, Der Fuerer's AB809 longgun reg. was sent to the suspention file -

http://www.crpa.org/_e/page/1529/AB809.htm

Current Status:
5/4/11
Heard in Assembly Committee on Appropriations; sent to suspense file due to costs

So now it's taken up again? :confused:

ETA: Apparently Der Fuerer refiled today....

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/11-12/bill/asm/ab_0801-0850/ab_809_bill_20110527_status.html

GOEX FFF
05-31-2011, 1:41 PM
Called Asmblymbr. Gaine's office and urged to Strongly oppose 809 due to HIGH costs for the state that will sink it into debt even further.

CALL AND DO THE SAME!

mag360
05-31-2011, 2:17 PM
you need to call a lot more people than Gaines. theres no way Gaines would vote for this garbage anyways. call the dems that are on the fence.

GOEX FFF
05-31-2011, 2:40 PM
you need to call a lot more people than Gaines. theres no way Gaines would vote for this garbage anyways. call the dems that are on the fence.

Absolutly correct...However, If the bRaDy's want us to call Gaines, then by-gum do it, and voice our opposition to 809.

This bill among other horrid things, will cost the state $100,000+ just to set up the sofware to START it. No telling how many more 100's of thousands more afterward.
They can't even come to a budget decision, and they continue to spend, spend, spend.

"FISCAL EFFECT

1)One-time costs in the range of $100,000 for software
development to allow DOJ to retain the long gun information
(Dealers' Record of Sale Account (DROS)), and ongoing costs in
the range of $300,000.

Wernher von Browning
05-31-2011, 2:47 PM
They can't even come to a budget decision, and they continue to spend, spend, spend.

Congratulations, I think you've isolated the problem... :)

jdberger
05-31-2011, 3:24 PM
Absolutly correct...However, If the bRaDy's want us to call Gaines, then by-gum do it, and voice our opposition to 809.

This bill among other horrid things, will cost the state $100,000+ just to set up the sofware to START it. No telling how many more 100's of thousands more afterward.
They can't even come to a budget decision, and they continue to spend, spend, spend.

Bingo.

Done.

Warm up the phones, folks. You can also send emails.

oni.dori
05-31-2011, 4:34 PM
over half the guns recovered from armed and prohibited persons are long guns.[/INDENT]

:whistling:

Don't they say the EXACT same thing about handguns, and "assault weapons"/semi-auto rifles, and .50BMG rifles as an excuse to back their asinine ideas?

jdberger
05-31-2011, 4:36 PM
One thing - posting about the Brady Campaign, etc. - try to spell their name correctly. That way it comes up in Google searches. It dilutes their brand.

GOEX FFF
05-31-2011, 4:36 PM
All we have to do is look back and see why they threw 809 into the suspended file before earlier this month, and that had to do with the nearly half Million this will cost the state and most probably more there after. CA might not care about 2A rights, but the fiscal impact of this is what got them to suspend it before...and now only 20 something days later we magically have the $$ to do this again? :rolleyes: IMO, that's what we need to continue to press the issue on.

Call, Email, Fax.

jdberger
06-01-2011, 10:11 AM
My letter to my Assemblymember:

Re AB 809

Assemblymember XXX,

Please oppose Assembly Bill 809. The fiscal effects of this bill include $100K in software development and more than $300K in ongoing costs. For what? An inaccurate database that will also exclude millions of previously owned firearms? In a time of financial crisis, it's not necessary to dump half a million dollars down a hole that has limited utility.

There's also the chilling effect on freedom. How freely would you use your library if you knew that the government was keeping records of what you read? How about keeping records of what you watch on TV? The sites you browse on the internet?

As a member of the NRA and the California Rifle and Pistol Association, I urge you to please reject this bill.

Best regards,

jdberger

Not one of my finest, but it does a couple of things.

1) It registers my opposition to the bill. Remember, for every person who contacts their legislator, 100 hold the same views.
2) It identifies me as an NRA and CRPA member. Though neither weild a significant amount of political power in this state, it's well known that we vote - and have the ability to swing elections.
3) It shows that we're paying attention. We can't win if we don't know what's going on.

Please folks, take a second and write a quick note to your Assemblymember and urge them to oppose this bill (which is going to the floor today).

If you don't know who your Assemblymember is, the Bradys have a handy little tool that can help you find them.

Just CLICK HERE ("http://www.bradynetwork.org/site/PageServer?pagename=BCPstate_lookup&autologin=true) and enter your ZIP code.

C'mon folks. We can't win if they don't know that we're here.

We can't win if we don't show up.