PDA

View Full Version : best out of the box bolt gun under $1000.00 mainly targets out to 600 yards


223forfun
05-30-2011, 12:01 PM
Ok here is your change to voice that opinion, rifle under a 1000.00 next question scope next with another 1000.00. So spend my money wisely, My xwife sure does, what can i do for 2 thousand

MadMax
05-30-2011, 12:30 PM
I prefer the remmington over the savage so I would get the 700 sps varmint or the 700 sps if you want a shorter barrel in 308.

As far as a scope I just picked up a Vortex Viper PST Rifle Scope 30mm Tube 6-24x 50mm Side Focus 1/10 MIL Adjustments First Focal Plane Illuminated EBR-1 MRAD Reticle Matte for $900 and it is the best scope for the money that I have ever seen. In my opinion it is a poor mans nightforce and on par with there quality for a lot less.

acourvil
05-30-2011, 12:40 PM
Tikka should be on the list to consider

osis32
05-30-2011, 12:43 PM
I've been looking at the tikka t3 sporter if it ever gets over here.

HKROB
05-30-2011, 12:46 PM
Remington 700 5r or a Savage 10FP both can be had in 308 not sure what your looking for.

daveinwoodland
05-30-2011, 12:55 PM
Weatherby Vanguard

strangerdude
05-30-2011, 12:57 PM
Remington 700 sps tactical

Cheese & Bacon
05-30-2011, 1:18 PM
Savage model 10 precision carbine

McCrown
05-30-2011, 1:53 PM
I would go for a Rem 700 sps varmint or tactical, then put the rest of the funds in a scope, bi-pod, and other accessories.

toby
05-30-2011, 2:02 PM
Wan't something you wont have to up-grade? look at the T/C icon precision hunter, this thing is Tits. Read up on it a bit before you go off the edge on a Remmy.....:rolleyes: www.tcarms.com

Sydwaiz
05-30-2011, 2:03 PM
Tikka.

Norsemen308
05-30-2011, 2:07 PM
vanguard or savage or Remington 700.. in that order

bob7122
05-30-2011, 2:09 PM
.308 Savage with some badass scope... i don't know????:shrug: go with a Leupold????

Droppin Deuces
05-30-2011, 2:14 PM
Stag Super Varminter with awesome scope of choice.

What? It has a bolt...

jcaoloveshine
05-30-2011, 3:03 PM
Savage 10FP in 308 is best bang for the money. Very accurate, about $550-600. Gun has everything you want in a target rifle: great trigger, heavy barrel, free-floated stock, oversized bolt handle.

Remington 700 Tactical is good competition as well. About 550-600. However, this gun does not free-float the barrel when it rests on a bipod.
You can upgrade to the 700 Police for about $800 used, and it comes with a good stock and free-floats the barrel.

Tikka T3 Varmint is an excellent choice as well, extremely accurate and it looks mean too. About $750.

I would not get a Weatherby if I were you. Not because it's a bad gun, but because it doesn't fit your purpose of long-range target shooting. Their rifles are mostly hunting guns with pencil barrels, and the sub-moa varmint model runs over a grand which is a ripoff considering the 10FP will shoot at least 1/2 moa and its half that price. Same goes for the TC, they don't strike me as target rifles which is what you want (I'm sure they'd make great hunting rifles).

There's a reason why most of the shooters at the long range line have Remingtons, Savages, custom bolt guns, or the occasional Tikka/Sako.

toby
05-30-2011, 3:22 PM
^^^^ research pay's big, and yeah so called hunting rifles can't shoot 600-1000yrd's whatever!

send it_hit
05-30-2011, 3:26 PM
Savage 10 series. Especially if you like the accutrugger. I'm actually selling one, let me know if you're interested :) good luck finding what you need!

jcaoloveshine
05-30-2011, 3:38 PM
^^^^ research pay's big, and yeah so called hunting rifles can't shoot 600-1000yrd's whatever!

I'm sure they can, it's just that you won't be able to achieve lengthy consistency with those pencil barrels as they heat up. Besides, if you're using a pencil barrel hunting rifle to shoot long-range matches, you're doing it WAY wrong.

bombadillo
05-30-2011, 3:41 PM
Tikka .308 Varmint.

rudynix
05-30-2011, 3:48 PM
I personally like the Tikka. Very accurate right out of the box, and there are more and more after market products becoming available all the time. I picked up a Tikka T3 Varmint this month in 223. Will be upgrading the stock to a Whiskey 3 chassis, http://www.kineticresearchgroup.com/products/w3c.php, and changing out the bolt shroud and bolt handle that Hinterland Shooting Supplies, http://www.hss.net.au/index.php?cPath=63&osCsid=c6c3342083a5ded82c57683d6e254115, has available.

beauregard
05-30-2011, 3:55 PM
Remington 700 sps tactical

I agree.

AlliedArmory
05-30-2011, 4:08 PM
What type of rifle are you looking for? What caliber? My AR is accurate out to 600 yrds, but my R700 is more accurate :)

mrkurtz
05-30-2011, 4:14 PM
The Tikka is a great choice, but there are alot more options down the line to personalize a Remington and at a lower price. For example, a plastic mag for my 223 is $80 if you can find them. My Glock mags are alot sturdier and cheaper. My B&C stock I got used here on Calguns for a very reasonable price. Tikkas come so nice out of the box you don't need to much of anything. I really like my Super Varmint, but the only thing I have ever and will ever do to it is add a Harris bipod.

toby
05-30-2011, 4:57 PM
I'm sure they can, it's just that you won't be able to achieve lengthy consistency with those pencil barrels as they heat up. Besides, if you're using a pencil barrel hunting rifle to shoot long-range matches, you're doing it WAY wrong.

Yeah we know! but if you check what they offer you will find that Weatherby offers a nice #3 contour 20" synthetic for less tan $700 the Tc I mentioned is a Target rifle and I don't see where the OP said anything other than a target gun for around 600 yrds??? nor matches???? but maybe I didnt read between the lines.....:shrug:

foxtrotuniformlima
05-30-2011, 6:18 PM
Remington 5r in 308.

If you think that this rifle might just be a stepping stone for a custom build, then I'd suggest a Remington 700 SPS Tactical. It will work just fine and be a great base gun for a new stock & barrel when budget allows.

AS for the optics part, figure out how much you have left and call Scott @ Liberty Optics. He will get you the most bang for the bucks left.

tiger222
05-30-2011, 7:58 PM
Remington 5R
Super Sniper 5-20x50HD

2nd Shot
05-30-2011, 8:02 PM
I can't speak for the other rifles, but I've had some exceedingly good results with the 20" SPS-Tactical. It's all stock except that I added a factory takeoff stock from the 5R and have squeezed .375" 3 shot groups out of mine with Black Hills Match 175. I haven't tried Gold Medal 175 or handloads yet.

The 26" SPS Varmint is the same price, with barrel length being the only difference. You'll probably want to put a full length bedded stock on either.

Donk310
05-30-2011, 8:03 PM
Savage. Can't go wrong.

gmcal
05-30-2011, 8:16 PM
On my last 2 trips out to the range I saw 2 different guys shooting a Savage 10FCP. 1 was the HS model with the HS precision stock and detachable magazine. Both were getting 1 hole groups with reloads at 100 yards and sub moa at 200. The range only goes out to 200 yards and neither had shot further than that.

As far 1k for the scope, check out the SWFA 5-20x50HD group buy on snipershide.

707ace
05-30-2011, 8:32 PM
+1 for Savage F-class rig

diego-ted
05-31-2011, 5:40 AM
I personally like the Tikka. Very accurate right out of the box, and there are more and more after market products becoming available all the time. I picked up a Tikka T3 Varmint this month in 223. Will be upgrading the stock to a Whiskey 3 chassis, http://www.kineticresearchgroup.com/products/w3c.php, and changing out the bolt shroud and bolt handle that Hinterland Shooting Supplies, http://www.hss.net.au/index.php?cPath=63&osCsid=c6c3342083a5ded82c57683d6e254115, has available.

Could not have said it better myself!! Now BigBamBoo on the other hand:D

Ted

thai562
05-31-2011, 8:26 AM
+1 for Remington 700 5R.

Legasat
05-31-2011, 9:27 AM
I would have to go with the Remington 5R or LTR in .308 for the rifle.

For the Scope, the Vortex Viper PST FFP looks like a hard deal to beat.

dfletcher
05-31-2011, 10:21 AM
I have a Savage 12BVSS in 300 WSM and like it alot, but I think the Accutrigger is over rated. It's very good, not great, and not as adjustable as the Rem 700 or Ruger 77 V model.

Savage, Remington and Ruger each make rifles that will work well consistently out to 600 yds. I happen to like the Ruger 77V model because of its trigger and stock design. I have them in 223, 25.06, 6.5 Creedmoor and 308. I wouldn't use the 223, but I think the other 3 could make 600 with no problem.

ZX-10R
05-31-2011, 10:32 AM
Remington 700 series (SPS for me) or Savage 10FCP. Scope...I would get a Millet LRS-1 and then with the money saved, Harris bipod.

Iggy
05-31-2011, 10:39 AM
Tikka T3 CTR. $850. All you need to add is a scope, rings and bipod.

pyro3k2
05-31-2011, 11:27 AM
http://www.scopelist.com/images/products/tikka-t3-scout-ctr-223-rem-jrss312.jpg
+
http://swfa.com/Bushnell-5-15x40-Elite-Tactical-Rifle-Scope-P48272.aspx

rumblebee
05-31-2011, 11:36 AM
VVVVV This and a Vortex Viper with low rings and you'll be good to go :rockon:

Tikka T3 CTR. $850. All you need to add is a scope, rings and bipod.

morrcarr67
05-31-2011, 11:58 AM
I would be looking at the Tikka's and Howa's for rifles. and Zeiss and Swarovski for scopes. If you spend less then $1000 on your rifle it would help you get into a Swarovski scope.

hoffman259
05-31-2011, 1:57 PM
I just got done a month or so ago putting together a Remington 5r 300winmag with a Ziess Conquest Target 4-14.5x50 scope mounted with a seekins 20moa base and rings. Shoots 600 yrds just fine and a even further. If 300 winmag isnt your cup of tea the also make it in .308. This thing is very very nice for a production rifle. There is a great deal going on for Super sniper 5-20X50 which is a great scope at a great price right now on SWFA.

Bhobbs
05-31-2011, 2:05 PM
I would get a heavy barrel .223 Remington. If 600 yards is the max you plan on shooting then .223 will be fine. Make sure it has a rifling twist that will stabilize heavy bullets though.

Peter W Bush
05-31-2011, 2:33 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=334656

Check that thread out.

Team Savage started its 2010 season in grand fashion, winning the F T/R National Championship team competition by besting all others in the 600 and 1,000 yard events, and establishing an new 1,000-yard record of 778-21X. That would seem hard to top. But that is exactly what they did at the last two major matches of their season.

Savage accuracy right now is VERY hard to beat- Almost impossible to beat for under $1000. You can buy a 10FP and a decent scope for $1000. You can adjust the trigger yourself and even change the barrel yourself when you shoot it out.

Connor P Price
06-01-2011, 8:47 AM
I would have to go with the Remington 5R or LTR in .308 for the rifle.

For the Scope, the Vortex Viper PST FFP looks like a hard deal to beat.

^What he said. Doesn't get much better than that in your price range. If you have a stock in mind that you know you like then get the SPS varmint and just swap out the crappy stock it comes with.

X-NewYawker
06-01-2011, 9:43 AM
26" Remington 700 Police in .308 ($800) (comes with HS stock, usually great trigger. Ready to go out of box)
or
Savage 10FP ($587) (upgrade to a B&C or H-S stock because factory plastic stock well, sucks)
Scope and you're done.

Mr_Monkeywrench
06-01-2011, 10:45 AM
I am kind of in the same boat as you. This is how I went. Turners was having a sale & rebate on their remington 700 sps varmints (308). Went that route for around $570 including taxes and dros. Next went with leupold rings and mounts for around $50ish. Went with the Super Sniper 10x, a bell and carlson A2 stock that Im waiting to be delivered $216 shipped and a Harris SLM bipod $98 shipped. So total im into it $1233. I know its a tad bit out of your price range, but overall, I think it will be a decent system

usmcchet9296
06-01-2011, 1:55 PM
Tikka is a great rifle but with limited upgrade possibilities
Savage is a great rifle too
I had a remington 700 SPS in .223 and it was a lazer and cost 600.00 or so out the door.
I sold it but plan to get one in .308 later this year. For the money its the best of the 3.

West coast
06-01-2011, 2:57 PM
Remington 700 sps tactical

What he said!!!!

X-NewYawker
06-01-2011, 3:11 PM
I gotta tell you -- that Remington SPS (I had two) did NOT impress me. The stock must be Sh*t canned immediately, and the ones with the triangular barrels didn't sell me.

You cannot beat the Remington 700 Police. They make a 20 inch and 26 inch, in 223 or 308, the triggers are great and they come in a sturdy, well made HS Precision stock with an aluminum bedding block. They are an out of the box rifle that with a scope and trigger work (if yours needs it) will shoot sub MOA all day long. Then you put your money in a killer optic and 20 MOA base and you're there.

Only the R5 is a better non-custom gun.

SOcal
06-01-2011, 3:22 PM
I know the Tikk's shoot ok but they feel like an absolute piece of ***** to me, plastic trigger guard doesnt do it for me either.

Go Remington 700 and don't look back. You can have your action trued and re-barreled down the road if you desire, stocks are plentiful, solid track record (military and civilian) and just plain accurate.

Out of the box the 5r is hard to beat, if that is too pricy, the 700 Varmint is cheaper and still shoots great. Even the SPS shoots good - the stock blows but replace that and you should see acceptable accuracy to get you out to 600 easy. If you reload, it is no problem to tune a SPS, 5R, Police, Varmint, or any 700 based rifle to shoot sub MOA.

If you still want a cheaper rig, look at Savage as others have said. I have seen some that are flat out shooters, and others that I wouldnt even allow to rest inside my gun safe.

Iggy
06-01-2011, 3:26 PM
I think for all those reasons the Tikka T3 CTR is a good contender. Keep in mind the OP asked out of the box.

Mine came with a 20" 5R 1:11 twist barrel. It has a tight chamber and even though the stock is plastic, the barrel is free floated. It will not flex and touch the barrel like the Hogue stock.

Next the action is super smooth. Smoother than a Remington, and even smother than some customs. The action itself has many improvements over the Remington as well.

The trigger can be adjusted down to 2lbs by the user and breaks clean. It feels nicer to me than even a Remington trigger that has been worked over.

After this Tikka I just bought and having shot it, I don't think I can recommend anyone on a budget to another bolt gun. The Tikka hands down wins for an out of box rifle in quality, price, and accuracy.

mif_slim
06-01-2011, 3:30 PM
Remington 700 because in COD its the best gun!

Iggy
06-01-2011, 3:31 PM
And for those that say there aren't smiths that work on Tikka's. look at this:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=226289&Number=2567892

tacticalcity
06-01-2011, 3:37 PM
$2K budget?

Rifle: Remington 700 Police (all black) or Remington 700 5R Milspec (stainless precision barrel with special rifling)

Scope: Leupold Mark 4 IR Mildot 2.5-10x40 Scope

Shop wisely and you can get find one of those rifles and that scope under $2K.

Iggy
06-01-2011, 3:42 PM
Ok lets do this again:

Tikka T3 CTR: $850
SWFA 5-25 HD scope: $1000 with Snipers Hide coupon
Seekins rings: $130

Total: $1980

Buy a box of ammo with the money left over to shoot!

tacticalcity
06-01-2011, 3:42 PM
I gotta tell you -- that Remington SPS (I had two) did NOT impress me. The stock must be Sh*t canned immediately, and the ones with the triangular barrels didn't sell me.

You cannot beat the Remington 700 Police. They make a 20 inch and 26 inch, in 223 or 308, the triggers are great and they come in a sturdy, well made HS Precision stock with an aluminum bedding block. They are an out of the box rifle that with a scope and trigger work (if yours needs it) will shoot sub MOA all day long. Then you put your money in a killer optic and 20 MOA base and you're there.

Only the R5 is a better non-custom gun.

SPS is what you get if want to replace the stock. Because the metal is the same as the Police, just a different finish.

If you like the stock on the Police, then it worth the price. But if you plan on ditching the stock, then it doesn't make sense. Because a good portion of the price is going towards the stock.

With his budget, however, it doesn't make sense to get the SPS and upgrade the stock because there will not be enough room to get anything better than what comes with the Police. The only two stocks companies that make a superior stock are Accuracy International and McMillan. Other companies make stocks that are as good as the stock that comes with it...but not better. Since the budget is $2K, and he needs at least $1K for the scope, the Police makes a lot of sense.

I had a Remington 700 5R Milspec at one point. Most accurate rifle I have ever owned. Truly impressive performance from an out of the box rifle. In addition to the stock you also get a superior barrel. Last I checked these were running $900. The stainless steel barrel with the 5R rifling is well worth the price. If the finish bothers you then you can always have it painted with cerekote down the road when you have more money.

ubet
06-01-2011, 3:46 PM
I have been down the road you are going to take, more than a few times.

Savages are good, triggers suck, stocks suck, barrels are better than the remmys (I am talking the lower ends of both guns the fp and sps guns). They shoot right out of the box, BUT, to get good accuracy, you need to dump the factory stock/trigger, and upgrade so thats $100 for the trigger, and a bell & carlson stock (cheapest I would go) is going to run you $300 off the top of my head. So you paid $650 for your gun, and are now at $1050.

Remmys I am limited in knowledge, I start with a 5r, the actions are good on the lower end varmints sps etc, but thats where it ends with them, think of it as a donor action. But with the 5r, you get a good stock, good barrel (5r rifling), triggers on mine are alright, good action. But used, its probably gonna be around $1000 or $1100 BUT you dont have to do anything just shoot it.

That being said, IF you go into the next price range <$1600, you can get a savage with the modular stocks, heavy barrel, rails if I remember right, they do come with 20 or 30 moa cant. This rifle is FULLY adjustable, ready to go, add rings, scope, bipod, and a sling, you are ready. Plus this gun comes with a detachable 10rd mag, that is a HUGE plus, to buy a badger m5 bottom metal its $350 alone. http://savagearms.com/firearms/models/

With the savage bk series you are set where as with everything else, you are going to eventually want to upgrade (I always have) ie stocks mainly, adjustable cheek, buttplate. You can add those onto others and do it yourself, karsten cheek pieces, and david tubb makes a 6way adj buttplate, with a little innovation and a beer or two you can do the work yourself.

Research, its better to wait and save, than to buy now, and have to add all that **** later. Dont be impatient.

Personally next time I do it, if its not a GAP or DTA SRS or a Savage 10BA.

foxtrotuniformlima
06-01-2011, 4:03 PM
Something else to consider. When you decide you want to sell it and upgrade or change calibers or try something different, the Remington will be easier to sell.

SOcal
06-02-2011, 9:52 AM
Just go to a tactical rifle / long range rifle / precision shooting competition and tell me how many Tikka's you see.... none. There is a reason for that. There are a few Savages here and there, but mostly Remington and or Rem. variants. They are popular for more reasons than I care to explain. The 5R is renowned as one of the most accurate, rugged and dependable factory bolt rifles you can get at any price, with any rifle you will have to handload for it to bring out its true accuracy potential but for the money, the 5R is a great platform that will retain its re-sale value, offer oppurtunities for tuning / truing in the future, and ACCURATE!

xxINKxx
06-02-2011, 9:58 AM
Another vote for Remington 700. You can find new ones in the 600$ range. Then spend 400$ on mods to make it even more awsome and be in your 1k price range

diego-ted
06-02-2011, 11:20 AM
Just go to a tactical rifle / long range rifle / precision shooting competition and tell me how many Tikka's you see.... none. There is a reason for that. There are a few Savages here and there, but mostly Remington and or Rem. variants. They are popular for more reasons than I care to explain. The 5R is renowned as one of the most accurate, rugged and dependable factory bolt rifles you can get at any price, with any rifle you will have to handload for it to bring out its true accuracy potential but for the money, the 5R is a great platform that will retain its re-sale value, offer oppurtunities for tuning / truing in the future, and ACCURATE!

Just got back from one in Albuqurque, saw at least six tikkas two finished in the top 10!! Put that in your pipe and smoke it?? I think you have been sucking on the remmy koolaid a little tooo long. Sure you can get a remmy to shoot like a tikka just buy it and spend another $500 on it!! My Tikka shoot sub 1/2 moa out of the box with factory ammo, well Fed Gold match, and shot almost 1/3 moa with some custom reloads. Bang for the buck, out of box shooting, I put my $$ on the Tikka. JMHO. You can search my user name and see the five shot group at sub 1/2 moa, and I have only been back into shooting about six months.

Ted

peterhodges
06-02-2011, 12:32 PM
Get one of these:

http://www.snipercentral.com/scriflepackagedetails.phtml?packageid=2

I would, as others have mentioned, also recommend the bell and carlson a-type stocks for whatever you do decide to put together.

Iggy
06-02-2011, 12:37 PM
Just go to a tactical rifle / long range rifle / precision shooting competition and tell me how many Tikka's you see.... none. There is a reason for that. There are a few Savages here and there, but mostly Remington and or Rem. variants. They are popular for more reasons than I care to explain. The 5R is renowned as one of the most accurate, rugged and dependable factory bolt rifles you can get at any price, with any rifle you will have to handload for it to bring out its true accuracy potential but for the money, the 5R is a great platform that will retain its re-sale value, offer oppurtunities for tuning / truing in the future, and ACCURATE!

And how many of those are out of the box?

First off I can understand your doubts because you don't see any in competitions, but do you own one? Have you shot one? How many AI AE or AW's do you see at competitions? That must mean they suck? Same with those darn TRG's.

I've owned 2 Remington's including a 5R and I can say the Tikka is the best bang for the buck. The only reason I would own another Remington is to have TacOps build me another rifle.

SOcal
06-02-2011, 12:52 PM
Just got back from one in Albuqurque, saw at least six tikkas two finished in the top 10!! Put that in your pipe and smoke it?? I think you have been sucking on the remmy koolaid a little tooo long. Sure you can get a remmy to shoot like a tikka just buy it and spend another $500 on it!! My Tikka shoot sub 1/2 moa out of the box with factory ammo, well Fed Gold match, and shot almost 1/3 moa with some custom reloads. Bang for the buck, out of box shooting, I put my $$ on the Tikka. JMHO. You can search my user name and see the five shot group at sub 1/2 moa, and I have only been back into shooting about six months.

Ted

Ha, 2 Tikka's might have finished in the top ten but the others were... oh wait.... Remingtons :D Call it Kool-Aid, call it what you want... there are tons of great rifles out there. The OP asked for opinions.... I gave mine with my version of logical explanation based on real world experience. I honestly cannot say that I have seen more than maybe 1 Tikka at any of the Sniper matches or precision matches that I have been to.... I guess I am blind... not that that makes them inferior but they are vastly less popular amongst that crowd. Hunting may be a different story.

Kimber, Remington, Browning, Savage, Tikka, Winchester, Ruger, Howa, FN, etc. all make guns that will do some amazing things with a good driver. I have handled and shot most of these and keep coming back to Remington, and will stay with the 700.

My 2 pesos worth.

It cracks me up whenever a thread like this comes up because it ends up being the typical "ford" vs "chevy" debate.

SOcal
06-02-2011, 1:01 PM
And how many of those are out of the box?

First off I can understand your doubts because you don't see any in competitions, but do you own one? Have you shot one? How many AI AE or AW's do you see at competitions? That must mean they suck? Same with those darn TRG's.

I've owned 2 Remington's including a 5R and I can say the Tikka is the best bang for the buck. The only reason I would own another Remington is to have TacOps build me another rifle.

I have shot a Tikka when I was looking for a hunting rifle chambered in 300 WM, thought it was a decent rifle, didnt care for the plastic feel to it, never saw spectacular groups out of it, then again... didn't spend enough time behind it.

There were actually quite a few TRG's and a a handful of AI AW's at the biggest sniper match I went to earlier this year (TPRC). I think that the AI guns are not more popular simply due to the limited availability and high price, you could have a number of top smith's in the US build a full custom for considerably less.

As I mentioned earlier - Chevy vs ford, red vs blue.... this could go on forever...

Hopefully the OP has enough information in this thread to help out with his decision.

diego-ted
06-02-2011, 6:32 PM
Ha, 2 Tikka's might have finished in the top ten but the others were... oh wait.... Remingtons :D Call it Kool-Aid, call it what you want... there are tons of great rifles out there. The OP asked for opinions.... I gave mine with my version of logical explanation based on real world experience. I honestly cannot say that I have seen more than maybe 1 Tikka at any of the Sniper matches or precision matches that I have been to.... I guess I am blind... not that that makes them inferior but they are vastly less popular amongst that crowd. Hunting may be a different story.

Kimber, Remington, Browning, Savage, Tikka, Winchester, Ruger, Howa, FN, etc. all make guns that will do some amazing things with a good driver. I have handled and shot most of these and keep coming back to Remington, and will stay with the 700.

My 2 pesos worth.

It cracks me up whenever a thread like this comes up because it ends up being the typical "ford" vs "chevy" debate.

I'll take your two and raise you cinco!! No problem, I am a Mopar guy, and always have the bow tie and blue oval guys gawking cause I have the only Par in the sea of furds and chebbys. Same with the Tikka and remmys, not because there better but because they are more common. LOL

Diego

MongooseV8
06-03-2011, 6:07 AM
Savage 10 308, if you want a good rifle anyway.

Flouncer
06-03-2011, 7:21 AM
Mosin Nagant and be done with it. Share leftover $$$ partying with the xwife's sister. :puke:

RONIN.
06-03-2011, 1:34 PM
Remington 700 sps tactical

Jdegid
06-03-2011, 2:00 PM
+1 Remy 5R 20"

ubet
06-04-2011, 9:28 AM
and shot almost 1/3 moa with some custom reloads.
Ted

Ok, how many TIMES has it done it? One group of 5 at 1/3 moa, IS NOT and indicator of shooter/platform. I had a savage 12 300wsm, it shot 3 shots into the same hole TWICE at 300yds. Did I consider it a .1moa gun, not in the least. Just was a lucky deal.

I would like to see you 5 groups of 5 rounds on the same target of 1/3 moa with your Tikka, not saying it cant/hasnt or isnt true, just would like to see it.

homers
06-04-2011, 10:11 AM
E.R. Shaw Mark VII, customized the way you want it.

Shady
06-04-2011, 10:12 AM
k31 with a grip of ammo

farias4000
06-07-2011, 10:06 PM
The best answer would be to find out for yourself. You'd get 50 answers and in the end it will level out taking you back to square one confusing you more on your decision making process. A gun is a gun it shoots where it wants to but it's how the operator shoots it, maintains it, improves it. Everyone will have a personal preference of what they like. Time to find what you like, or better yet what works best for you ergonomically, functionally and what tickles your fancy with style. Cause a 700 may look better but you may shoot better with a tikka vis-versa. But who knows a modern gun may work for you, scene many go crazy with 100 year old rifles that shoot MOA, or a $100 mosin may actually work best for you. Up to you just try before you buy as best as possible.

Switchbarrel
06-10-2011, 1:18 AM
Rather than purchase a complete rifle and change this or that as many have mentioned here, you can build a really nice rifle on your budget that you'll be proud of.

Jim Briggs at Northland Shooters supply sells Stevens blued actions for $235 (add a SSS trigger for <$100). Savage stainless actions for ~$385 and Savage Target actions for ~$485. Combine one of those with the 26" Criterion barrels he sells (offered in many calibers/twists/profiles) for $250, longer versions available too. Then add an H-S Precision stock for ~$350 or a Bell & Carlson A-series for ~$225 and you've got yourself a really nice rifle.

Personal choice for an inexpensive/semi-custom 600 yd. Target rifle = Savage right bolt/left port target action, 28" 6BR bull barrel, Stockade gunstocks long range BR stock ($485 + $280 + $385 = $1150, shopping around for a Sightron SIII scope could save you the $150 the rifle is over budget) Going with the std. Savage action and a different stock could get you under $1k, doing things on the cheap just isn't in my nature. I consider myself a value shopper and the above rifle would be a good value compared to some of my other rifles.

To use your complete budget, the Vortex group buy thru Snipershide/SWFA would be a nice scope. A Sightron SIII would be another nice way to go.
Ken Farrell or Warne tapered base with Burris Signature Zee rings and call it a day.


-Rick

supersonic
06-10-2011, 5:47 AM
Remington 5R in .308. There's a reason these are so sought-after.;)

tanda10506
06-10-2011, 8:16 AM
Remington 5R or 700P in my opinion, is the way to go. I have both and they are both 1000 yard rifles. The 5R is in .300WM and is good past 1K. I have a Leupold Mark 4 on my 700P and a Millet LRS on my 5R and I would recommend both of them. There's a lot of great rifles and a lot of great scopes for $1000 or under, but I know these 2 setups work. I've also used a Vortex Viper, a SWFA SS 16x, and a Zeiss Conquest 4-14x on friends guns and they seemed pretty nice too.