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Fjold
12-10-2006, 10:19 AM
A big bore. For comparison that's a 458 Win Mag laying in the chamber.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/small458.jpg

Here's a string about it:
http://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=14050&page=1#Post14050

DedEye
12-10-2006, 10:25 AM
How much does the ammo cost :D? I'd assume this would be a DD/AOW in the US/CA?

FatKatMatt
12-10-2006, 10:30 AM
Damn, an 8 gauge! I wonder how big the 1 1/2 gauge they used to make for puntguns is.

SemiAutoSam
12-10-2006, 10:39 AM
On the target it states pure lead ball .846 diameter. So I'm thinking unless this is packed into a shotgun shell it would be a DD.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h114/huntgrouse/P3050038.jpg

How much does the ammo cost :D? I'd assume this would be a DD/AOW in the US/CA?

paradox
12-10-2006, 11:33 AM
On the target it states pure lead ball .846 diameter. So I'm thinking unless this is packed into a shotgun shell it would be a DD.

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h114/huntgrouse/P3050038.jpg

Not so fast there, it could very well be Cali-legal...


12301. (a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter,
shall include any of the following weapons:
...
(3) Any weapon of a caliber greater than 0.60 caliber which fires fixed ammunition, or any ammunition therefor, other than
a shotgun (smooth or rifled bore) conforming to the definition of a "destructive device" found in subsection (b) of Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations,
shotgun ammunition (single projectile or shot),
antique rifle, or an
antique cannon.
For purposes of this section, the term "antique cannon" means any cannon manufactured before January 1, 1899, which has been rendered incapable of firing or for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade. The term "antique rifle" means a firearm conforming to the definition of an "antique firearm" in Section 479.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations.


Antique firearm.
Any firearm not designed or redesigned for using rim fire or conventional center fire ignition with fixed ammunition and manufactured in or before 1898 (including any matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system or replica thereof, whether actually manufactured before or after the year 1898) and also any firearm using fixed ammunition manufactured in or before 1898, for which ammunition is no longer manufactured in the United States and is not readily available in the ordinary channels of commercial trade.

Destructive device.
...
(b) any type of weapon by whatever name known which will, or which may be readily converted to, expel a projectile by the action of an explosive or other propellant, the barrel or barrels of which have a bore of more than one-half inch in diameter, except a shotgun or shotgun shell which the Director finds is generally recognized as particularly suitable for sporting purposes;
...
The term shall not include any device which is neither designed or redesigned for use as a weapon; any device, although originally designed for use as a weapon, which is redesigned for use as a signaling, pyrotechnic, line throwing, safety, or similar device; surplus ordnance sold, loaned, or given by the Secretary of the Army under 10 U.S.C. 4684(2), 4685, or 4686, or any device which the Director finds is not likely to be used as a weapon, or is an antique or is a rifle which the owner intends to use solely for sporting purposes.

Given all that, I can think of a few ways that this big bore might be Cali-legal:

It could have been originally manufactured before 1898.

It was originally a harpoon gun, which is nothing more than a glorified line thrower.

A good case could be made to the Director that this is both an antique and that it is solely intended for sporting purposes.

luvtolean
12-10-2006, 1:13 PM
Looks Cali legal to me.

Beautiful. I love the wood in the stock.

I'd fire it a couple times then mount it somehow.

whit
12-10-2006, 2:45 PM
There's a whole article in GunDigest this month about an 8ga. double that a guy just got.

He got an 8ga. magnum that will fire a 4inch shell. He just couldn't get any ammo for it.

Apparently some of the big manufacturers make 8ga and also 4ga. commercial stuff used for blasting clinkers off boiler walls. They use a big mounted gun and the ammo is only available in 1000 round units and costs a grand!

He decided to make his own.

It is interesting if you are into that stuff.

Whit

Fjold
12-10-2006, 2:52 PM
Butch Searcy up in Boron (Searcy Rifle Manufacturing) is a maker of fine double rifles and he's made 4 bore double rifles for clients. Here's a 4 bore case next to a 50 BMG and 375 H&H for comparison:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/4Bore.jpg

wilit
12-10-2006, 4:11 PM
Now that's a zombie gun.

Maddog5150
12-10-2006, 6:12 PM
damn you! I was on my way down to post "wonder what that would do to a zombie?" and you beat me to it! :p

Blue
12-10-2006, 6:17 PM
Butch Searcy up in Boron (Searcy Rifle Manufacturing) is a maker of fine double rifles and he's made 4 bore double rifles for clients. Here's a 4 bore case next to a 50 BMG and 375 H&H for comparison:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v214/Fjold/4Bore.jpg

Is that an old RL450?

Fjold
12-11-2006, 6:28 AM
Is that an old RL450?


Lol, That's an old 450B, 1985 issue. That's one of my new presses. :D