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prerunners4life
05-25-2011, 3:59 PM
Anybody ever had one??

I'm interested in gettin a mp5 flat and building one..
Can anyone help??

CAL.BAR
05-25-2011, 4:10 PM
A word of advice: Careful. Look at the clones that were out there. Vector, SW, Cohare etc. the gun boards are replete with tales of poor quality, and running failures. And even if you bend the receiver (and manage to get it right), you still have to buy expensive HK parts for the inside. These were full-on firearms companies with more expertise and equipment than most of us have in our garages - and they seldom got it right.

prerunners4life
05-25-2011, 4:30 PM
I have a coharie what's wrong with it??

Clodbuster
06-03-2011, 10:35 PM
Nothing wrong with a Coharie.
Building an MP5 isn't easy. Why would you want to build something that would cost more than a fully assembled Coharie and end up not even working?

novass
06-04-2011, 10:43 PM
just buy a mke at-94 i have one it work great i have not had one failure

xfilterx
06-05-2011, 9:43 AM
The problem you're going to run into is that building a clone roller-locked gun takes significantly more time than a AR15 or a AK for that matter. In my experience, it takes about a day for 1 gun. Plus, there are far more AK/AR people in this state to make it possible and to make the process run smoothly at say an AK or AR build party. Not enough HK people in CA to make this possible in my opinion. What I did is I went to a HK build party in Oklahoma. Spent about $800 or so in airline, hotel, car rental but it was totally worth it. 3 days of pure HK goodness. Here's some video of some of the stuff we got to build and shoot:

WOL16HI1Dis

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SVT_Fox
06-05-2011, 10:10 AM
those videos make me drool

i want to play

762.DEFENSE
06-05-2011, 1:18 PM
The problem you're going to run into is that building a clone roller-locked gun takes significantly more time than a AR15 or a AK for that matter. In my experience, it takes about a day for 1 gun. Plus, there are far more AK/AR people in this state to make it possible and to make the process run smoothly at say an AK or AR build party. Not enough HK people in CA to make this possible in my opinion. What I did is I went to a HK build party in Oklahoma. Spent about $800 or so in airline, hotel, car rental but it was totally worth it. 3 days of pure HK goodness. Here's some video of some of the stuff we got to build and shoot:

WOL16HI1Dis

fJxmPZZTxOg

3w7-nv6I06Y

z5tDgkdj71U

I'll take that MP5K off your hands :pinch:

Ever since I saw Swordfish, I've wanted that gun so badly!

zod
06-05-2011, 1:20 PM
Damn, that's awesome. I wanna try too!

Tripper
06-05-2011, 2:06 PM
I'm up for a trip to ok

MrPlink
06-05-2011, 2:39 PM
Post this in the gunsmithing forum, you will get a more concrete response

chead
06-05-2011, 2:45 PM
I might be interested too. I'd make a drive for a day of gun building :)

MikeR
06-05-2011, 4:34 PM
Someone had a HK build party in Esco a few months/year back. Look around the the gunsmith section.

All you guys saying its to hard, takes too long and the cost is too high please untuck your junk from between your legs before you turn in your man card. :rolleyes:

crazychinaman
06-05-2011, 7:38 PM
The problem you're going to run into is that building a clone roller-locked gun takes significantly more time than a AR15 or a AK for that matter. In my experience, it takes about a day for 1 gun. Plus, there are far more AK/AR people in this state to make it possible and to make the process run smoothly at say an AK or AR build party. Not enough HK people in CA to make this possible in my opinion. What I did is I went to a HK build party in Oklahoma. Spent about $800 or so in airline, hotel, car rental but it was totally worth it. 3 days of pure HK goodness. Here's some video of some of the stuff we got to build and shoot:

WOL16HI1Dis

fJxmPZZTxOg

3w7-nv6I06Y

z5tDgkdj71U

did Gilliebear do the work

cmace22
06-05-2011, 8:21 PM
Id love to be able to build an MP5 or MP5K.

Where would one find parts kits and flats?

Wasnt Iron Ridge doing MP5 receivers?

xfilterx
06-06-2011, 7:43 AM
Someone had a HK build party in Esco a few months/year back. Look around the the gunsmith section.

All you guys saying its to hard, takes too long and the cost is too high please untuck your junk from between your legs before you turn in your man card. :rolleyes:

No one said it was hard or that it took too long tough guy. :rolleyes:
All I'm saying is that it's not practical to host a party out of it. Seriously...host a party of 5-10 people to build one gun? Sounds like a sausage fest more than a build party if you ask me. It's much easier to knock out 5-10 AKs or AR15s than it is to knock out a HK clone in one day.

xfilterx
06-06-2011, 7:49 AM
did Gilliebear do the work

Yeah. His packs were used on all the builds except for the Fleming built MP5K build. Not sure if you can hear but Bill and Wade Fleming were there at the shoot. You can hear Bill talking about the "good ole days" while I was shooting the 416. Couple of pics from the weekend:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_1998.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2075.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2066.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2063.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2064.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2069.JPG

xfilterx
06-06-2011, 7:51 AM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2024.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2071.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2062.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2031.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2028.JPG

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_2022.JPG

TurboChrisB
06-06-2011, 9:16 AM
great pics! My Cohaire was having FTE's regularly...once I changed out the bolt...it runs like a top now. Eats anything I feed it.

RB1
06-09-2011, 5:17 AM
I know my coharie eats anything I feed it with hk parts and the factory parts it is a well made clone

CaliforniaRoll
06-09-2011, 7:24 AM
I think Atlantic sells just the receiver if you wanted to piece together your own and not have to bend the flat. Investment grade firearms will do all the work for you and I hear it's really top quality but also pricey. I ended up going the coharie route and had fte's until I replaced the bolt. I read on here that it's really the extractor that's the problem. Haven't had any problems since.

crazychinaman
06-09-2011, 8:35 AM
H&K roller lock rifles are very picky and hard to put together.You need special tools and a good tig welder. It cheaper to buy one then to build. Check out H&K pro web site.Aka Gillebear in OK.is one of the best.

TurboChrisB
06-09-2011, 9:51 AM
Yes, but don't forget...build one yourself and you have a legal UNREGISTERED MP5.....that's worth quite a bit to me!

Never Convicted
06-09-2011, 1:07 PM
slightly off topic, how does it work with Investment Grade Firearms, does any one know what kind of paperwork is involved ?

xfilterx
06-09-2011, 1:50 PM
slightly off topic, how does it work with Investment Grade Firearms, does any one know what kind of paperwork is involved ?

Paperwork? You send Jayson the parts and he builds it. If you want a rifle, you'd have to supply a bullet button as well. If you want a pistol, he can build it in a single shot configuration as well. Just make sure you send him your FFL and that your FFL is black rifle friendly and willing to accept it.

Do yourself a favor and save yourself $500 by going to Ghillie. Check his name on HKPro. Jayson at IGF does great work but he is very pricey. I have 3 Ghillie-builds and they all run great. Plus I support anyone who openly invites you to their home and shop, hosts a free 3 day build, and then lets you shoot every class 3 weapon in his arsenal as long as you supply the ammo. :thumbsup:

Plus he let me hold his German Shepard puppies. I love puppies. They're cute and cudly. Like my HKs. Gotta love that!!

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1211060/ghillieweekend/IMG_1993.JPG

ptoguy2002
06-09-2011, 2:29 PM
Jayson / IGF does good work, you get what you pay for.

FYI, there is a thread on the Gunsmithing section about an HK build party.
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xfilterx
06-09-2011, 2:45 PM
Jayson / IGF does good work, you get what you pay for.

Not sure I agree with that statement. I have a IGF-built, a Mike Otte-built, and Ghillie-built MP5 and they all function flawlessly with zero issues. Fit and finish are amazing on all 3 and tolerances are spot on. No problems. I can tell you that I bought a HK53 pistol from Mike Otte a while back and paid about $2500 for it. When it came back it ended up being a cut down 33 kit and I wasn't too pleased about it. So are you saying I got what I paid for? No, in fact I did NOT get what I paid for.

TurboChrisB
06-09-2011, 2:48 PM
And IGF does quality stuff...but the wait is forever. I'd go to Ghilliebear if I need a gun built.

4thSBCT
06-09-2011, 2:55 PM
A 240B!!?!?!?! I WANNTTT!!!! HOW???!?!?!?