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neomentat
12-04-2006, 7:30 PM
I found a Romak FPK new for $850, I know this is a little pricy but is this rifle CA legal? I will have the stock shipped to me separately and purchase a Saiga type regular stock for it if there is such a thing so I can use the detachable magazine. It doesn't say "Romak 3" or anything on the receiver. It only lists the importer as "TG Knox".

thanks

juha_teuvonnen
12-04-2006, 7:33 PM
remove the thumbhole stock, or plug the thumbhole and it's legal in CA.

Kiowa782
12-05-2006, 6:30 AM
Wow! $850.00 way to much for a parts kit, plus the fact that you have to by the receiver for it another $250.00 to $350.00 (you cannot use a standard AK receiver). I have seen these on gunbroker for $800.00 complete gun. Look on gunbroker find one that does not have a marked receiver on the banned list, and then ask them to remove the stock and pistolgrip for shipping to your FFL. When you get it Mod the stock like mentioned above.

50 Freak
12-05-2006, 8:40 AM
Holy Crap, I just saw a PSL (which is the same thing) sell for $730 for the complete gun with scope and 2 mags.

Builder
12-05-2006, 9:00 AM
From dragunov.net: "Years ago these rifles were mistakenly called FPK's by the US government and the name can still be found in use from time to time (though it's not correct). The receiver is a stamped sheet metal design which has reinforcements below the barrel trunion and at the rear cut-out to prevent cracks due to the strong recoil. The gas system is like an AK series with the gas piston being attached to the bolt carrier. The ROMAK (ROManian Avtomat Kalashnikov) 3's imported were made at the Regia Autonoma de Tehnicå Militarå (RATMIL)-CUGIR arsenal in Bucharest Romania and had their bayonet lugs removed to meet import restrictions."
The PSL parts kits have the bayonet lug ground down.
You will enjoy the PSL/Romak-3.
Builder

shooterx10
12-05-2006, 9:08 AM
Just out of curiosity, which vendors (on gunbroker, auctionarms, gunsamerica, etc.) are willing to sell a complete PSL / Romak to this state without the thumbhole stock?

Any help is appreciated! :D

50 Freak
12-05-2006, 9:52 AM
www.ak-47man.com

He will ship them to an outside CA FFL, who will then disassemble and reship to CA.

Kinda extra cost but worth while.

Last I checked they where something like $750 NIB with scope, 2 mags and cleaning kit.

neomentat
12-05-2006, 11:41 AM
I couldn't find any parts kit or receivers for sale on the web. Does anyone know a source?

How can you tell if a Romak is assembled from a parts kit? And which receivers are illegal here in CA? I'm a little confused on that since i thought the Romak receiver is not a Kloshnikov design.

thanks

69Mach1
12-05-2006, 1:28 PM
Interordnance says they'll have them back in stock soon. $700 is a great price for the 7.62x54R. There's also their new SSG-2000 coming out.

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=297113

50 Freak
12-05-2006, 1:33 PM
Nice, but is SSG-2000 just another PSL/Romak repackaged with new furniture?

How is it significantly different. And personally, I like the PSL's dragunov buttstock.

69Mach1
12-05-2006, 1:41 PM
Nice, but is SSG-2000 just another PSL/Romak repackaged with new furniture?

How is it significantly different. And personally, I like the PSL's dragunov buttstock.

It's modified quite a bit to have the buttstock and pistol grip. First of all the original SSG-97's don't have the cut out to install a pistol grip in the receiver, and the added length of the receiver extention makes attaching any regular AK buttstock difficult. Since this version has a pistol grip it also has to comply with 922r because it's no longer in "sporting" confirguration.

I would like to get one in .308 if Magpul releases a PSL addapter to their soon to be released PSG1 clone stock.

69Mach1
12-05-2006, 1:49 PM
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/prs205.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/prs2mounts.jpg

50 Freak
12-05-2006, 1:50 PM
So other than the pistol grip, are the receivers/internals/barrel etc the same?

Some of us don't like the PG style. And personally if I'm getting a 308 AK type weapon, look to the Super Veprs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/MarcusF1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/samlinvepr.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/MarcusF4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/Veprsupermedkinnstdemperogior.jpg

Of course the last picture is of a version we can't get here in the US.

50 Freak
12-05-2006, 1:53 PM
Someone already created a PSG type butt stock for a FAL, look to the Birdman's PSG/FAL buttstock on Falfiles.

69Mach1
12-05-2006, 2:00 PM
So other than the pistol grip, are the receivers/internals/barrel etc the same?

Some of us don't like the PG style. And personally if I'm getting a 308 AK type weapon, look to the Super Veprs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/MarcusF1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/samlinvepr.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/MarcusF4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JustaBlokeAnywhere/Veprsupermedkinnstdemperogior.jpg

Of course the last picture is of a version we can't get here in the US.

God that thing is sexy. How does the fake suppressor attach to the Super Vepr? I thought the barrel was non-threaded. Is that a bolt release above the trigger?

50 Freak
12-05-2006, 2:10 PM
No that's a real supressor. Got that pic from a Dutch website. The super Veprs are pretty popular in Europe as they are heavily used as hunting rifles. And they want you to use suppressors as it they trust their citizens and don't like noise polution.

And, that thing above the trigger is the safety. Below the trigger is the mag release.

And the Super Veprs come with a chromed lined hammer forged match grade fluted heavy barrel.

-hanko
12-05-2006, 2:43 PM
Someone already created a PSG type butt stock for a FAL, look to the Birdman's PSG/FAL buttstock on Falfiles.
He's out of business.

-hanko

50 Freak
12-05-2006, 3:05 PM
Yeah, but he still sells his buttstocks on FalFiles

Addax
12-05-2006, 4:01 PM
It's modified quite a bit to have the buttstock and pistol grip. First of all the original SSG-97's don't have the cut out to install a pistol grip in the receiver, and the added length of the receiver extention makes attaching any regular AK buttstock difficult. Since this version has a pistol grip it also has to comply with 922r because it's no longer in "sporting" confirguration.

I would like to get one in .308 if Magpul releases a PSL addapter to their soon to be released PSG1 clone stock.

Hey Mach,

I thought the SSG2000 was a part of the US/Iraq order with the SSG97..

I know the SSG97 is/was the original rifle ordered (or the FPK or PSL) and from what I heard on the street (in the Mid East section of town) is that there were some complaints from the field, so the SSG2000 addresses those complaints as a product improvement package?

Btw, just got back from the Mid East (hence why I have been on radio silence until this past week). Will email you with some new stuff I am working on.

69Mach1
12-05-2006, 7:25 PM
Hey Mach,

I thought the SSG2000 was a part of the US/Iraq order with the SSG97..

I know the SSG97 is/was the original rifle ordered (or the FPK or PSL) and from what I heard on the street (in the Mid East section of town) is that there were some complaints from the field, so the SSG2000 addresses those complaints as a product improvement package?

Btw, just got back from the Mid East (hence why I have been on radio silence until this past week). Will email you with some new stuff I am working on.


Welcome back. I haven't the slightest idea why they came up with the SSG-2000 other than the pistol grip option on a PSL. Maybe the U.S. fire control group improves the trigger pull too. It seems to have the same barrel, receiver, and scope mount. The only thing I want to improve on my PSL is the replacement of the FCG with the Red Star package.