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mikemaccham
05-17-2011, 7:40 AM
I have a varmint RRA AR15 in 223, its great. I'm looking for something I can walk with in 223. Don't want to really spend to much cash on it so I'm looking for a sub moa for under $500.
I have a 3x9 Coyote Special scope, brand new, planned on starting out with that.
Seems like Savage has a awesome name but there are so many variants.
I the model 10 seems pretty appealing. How does it compare to a Ruger M77 (dont believe they have a adjustable trigger), Stevens 200, and the other Savage models?
I want to stick to 223 and I would like something light, cheap and accurate...wouldn't everyone. oh and I would like to have the option of 556/223 and light or heavy bullets so I was thinking 1:9 twist.

Its mainly for varmint, but I would take it dear hunting (white tail)dont see using it past 400 yards.

MongooseV8
05-17-2011, 7:51 AM
I just bought a used Savage Model 10 LE in the classifieds for under $500. I put it in a Boyds stock and it wears a Dead Nutz GameReaper scope base/rings to mount a Nikon Prostaff. I took it out this last weekend with some random hand loads and the worst group I shot was 0.75" at 100 yards in the wind. Most of the other groups were under 0.50"

The Savage 10/12 are your best choice and the cheapest, but you will need to upgrade the stock. The factory synthetic stocks suck.

the_t0ny
05-17-2011, 7:52 AM
I'm kinds of in the same boat as you are, I'm looking the the savage 10fp and the 12fv models in .223, but both are $100-150 over your budget of $500. If you really want to stick to 500 and under, I heard great things about the savage axis/edge and they're around 350 for just the gun. They also have one with a 3-9x40 scope but you already have one.

Vacaville
05-17-2011, 8:00 AM
Take a look at the Weatherby Vanguard.

Very accurate, adjustable trigger (on the newer models), Howa 1500 action. Haven't heard a bad thing about them.

http://www.chuckhawks.com/wby_vanguard_rifles.htm

http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php/8084-Anyone-with-experience-with-Weatherby-Vanguard-Rifles

jimmykan
05-17-2011, 8:36 AM
The Savage Model 10 Police rifles are too heavy to carry while hunting. Just ask the sengk, the guy who bought mine to shoot coyotes. He said it shot great, but weighing 12-lbs with scope, it's a chore to lug around. Now he's looking for a lightweight AR for that purpose.

If you definitely want a Savage bolt gun, how about a Model 25 Lightweight Varminter? The synthetic stock version is just about $500. If you want a Savage for real cheap and don't need an accutrigger, how about one of those new "Axis" rifles, they used to be marketed as "Edge."

MongooseV8
05-17-2011, 8:54 AM
The Savage Model 10 Police rifles are too heavy to carry while hunting. Just ask the sengk, the guy who bought mine to shoot coyotes. He said it shot great, but weighing 12-lbs with scope, it's a chore to lug around. Now he's looking for a lightweight AR for that purpose.


My Savage 10 weighs 10 pounds with a scope and bipod. The rifle by itself weighs less than 8 pounds and thats with a laminate stock.....

762.DEFENSE
05-17-2011, 8:55 AM
Savage Model 10.

RugerNo1
05-17-2011, 9:03 AM
Tikka offers one of their SKUs in .223 with a 1 in 8'' twist that would stabilize a large range of bullets.

CalTeacher
05-17-2011, 9:31 AM
CZ 527. GREAT rifle!!

Patrick Aherne
05-17-2011, 9:38 AM
I am really impressed with the CZ .22 I bought. I would look real hard at a 527 in .223 or 7.62x39 for a light handy rifle.

ElvenSoul
05-17-2011, 9:54 AM
Another for the CZ!

mikemaccham
05-17-2011, 10:26 AM
How much are those though?
Thanks guys!

mikemaccham
05-17-2011, 10:30 AM
Ya I was looking at the axis but kept reading about a 1" at 100 yards moa, don't know if it was the shooter or not. I'll defiantly check those others out.

7.62x39 would be sweet but how accurate is it?

And ya light is the key. At 10 pounds I could carry my Ar and be less likely to be beaten by the Mrs. For "another stupid gun"... If she only knew te he.

RenegadeRebel
05-17-2011, 11:09 AM
Get a 700. After market options are off the hook; and when you re-barrel it you can choose a "real mans caliber;" like .300 RUM or something...308 will also do, point is you have other options when you want to upgrade.

Unless you want to keep it at .223; then as others have said, get the Savage.

Edit: Also I have seen base 700's go for under 500 bucks at buds...

Beetle Bailey
05-17-2011, 11:33 AM
TIkka T3 Lite. Rifle weights 6.5 lbs. and shoots MOA.

gunsarefun
05-17-2011, 1:42 PM
I have a Savage 10FP in 308 and a Savage 12 in .223. Both are really good rifles IMHO. I've shot a stainless M77 in .223 also and that is a very nice gun also, I just prefer the bull barrel that you can get with the Savage models. Never shot a Remington 700, but I'm sure they are great also.

You're choices that you are looking at are all good ones and you would likely be happy with any one of them.

hoffman259
05-17-2011, 1:43 PM
I gotta give another nod for tikka. Very nice gun and shoots great.

mikemaccham
05-17-2011, 1:43 PM
$309 for a savage axis, sub moa, no acutrigger + $30 to ship + $65 for out of state Ffl fees. I could probably just get trigger work done down the road n

AlliedArmory
05-17-2011, 4:18 PM
For a bolt, I would get a R700

SDS-Ruger
05-17-2011, 5:26 PM
I have a savage 12 in 223 love it. and they are having more and more after market options for savage.

ZX-10R
05-17-2011, 5:49 PM
700...If you can find an XR-100 from Remy I would get it. I had one and that was an excellent rifle albeit single round.

Jarhead
05-17-2011, 5:52 PM
Savage Model 12 series

Secret
05-17-2011, 5:53 PM
tikka 223 :)

vintagearms
05-17-2011, 5:56 PM
While you could kill deer with a .223 I would prefer the more humane method with a .308. But thats just me.

mikemaccham
05-17-2011, 6:24 PM
I mostly just miss them and swear. So 223 is perfect.

UserM4
05-17-2011, 6:27 PM
http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/mvp_scope_package_27710-tfb.jpg
A bolt gun that takes AR mags. :p MSRP $649

Mstnpete
05-17-2011, 6:35 PM
Tikka T3 Lite in 223!

my Yote rifle! Shoots dime size groupings, very accurate and light weight.

Wnick308
05-17-2011, 6:42 PM
The Savage model 12 would be perfect, the model 10 is too heavy for hunting.
I don't know much about the axis but I hear it pretty good.

mikemaccham
05-17-2011, 6:49 PM
**** it how much is a Mac-10? $100, spray and prey right?

BigfootHunter
05-17-2011, 7:04 PM
http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/mvp_scope_package_27710-tfb.jpg
A bolt gun that takes AR mags. :p MSRP $649

Does Mossberg have any real info on that out yet? I know people will thing that's freaking tacticool to the max, but really, i like a DBM and after paying a pretty penny to add one to my 700p in .308 getting one that came with one I had mags for already would be nice...

Bhobbs
05-17-2011, 7:09 PM
Get a 700. After market options are off the hook; and when you re-barrel it you can choose a "real mans caliber;" like .300 RUM or something...308 will also do, point is you have other options when you want to upgrade.

Unless you want to keep it at .223; then as others have said, get the Savage.

Edit: Also I have seen base 700's go for under 500 bucks at buds...

You might have some trouble getting the .300 RUM to operate in a short action with a .223 bolt face. :rofl2:

dfletcher
05-17-2011, 7:28 PM
Others mentioned the CZ 527 - for walking about you can get their 527 American, for "light varmint" they have a heavier barreled version. Very accurate, adjustable trigger with single set capability, all steel & wood.

My other alternative for a varmint is the Ruger 77V - underated and an excellent trigger that is equal or better than Remington.

diego-ted
05-17-2011, 7:41 PM
TIkka T3 Lite. Rifle weights 6.5 lbs. and shoots MOA.

Believe it!!

Diego

pyro3k2
05-17-2011, 7:45 PM
http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/mvp_scope_package_27710-tfb.jpg
A bolt gun that takes AR mags. :p MSRP $649

I would love to rock my 30 rounder out of that. Could you imagine a beta mag lol.

BigfootHunter
05-17-2011, 8:52 PM
^^^

Might need more bipod for that!

UserM4
05-17-2011, 9:16 PM
I would love to rock my 30 rounder out of that. Could you imagine a beta mag lol.

I just wanna see a PMAG sticking out of it. Maybe the SureFire 100 rounder lol. Whatever the case may be, I'm definitely picking one up when it comes out.