View Full Version : Oh Noes with the Keltec PMR-30

05-14-2011, 9:04 PM
This gun came out with so much promise. Oh well. Not like we could take advantage of that sweet 30 round mag...

From Cheaper Than Dirt's FB update:PMR-30 Status Update IV


As time has progressed, so has the PMR-30. Since the start of the year the PMR-30 has been shipping in full quantities to all of our distributors on a rotating basis (to make it fair for all distributors).

Recently we have been made aware of a potential issue that we feel our customers should definitely be made aware of. We are in the middle of a re-design to our barrel due to key-holing concerns. For those unfamiliar with key-holing, basically it is when the bullet tumbles end over end rather than travelling stable with a solid spiral. It seems as though the 1:16 twist ratio of our barrels isn't quite preventing these issues from occurring. We are currently testing new twist ratios for the PMR-30 so that these issues no longer occur (1:9 and 1:12).

There has also been a cosmetic change to the barrel: we have removed the fluting on the barrel. The initial fluted design was for weight reduction, however it was time-consuming to produce. We have created a new design that matches the weight and decreases production time significantly. It will look like a more traditional pistol.

IMPORTANT: For customers who DO own a PMR-30 and are experiencing key-holing, you may send your barrel in to be replaced by the newly redesigned versions once they are available. When they are available, a status update will be made so that our customers know that they can go ahead and send their barrel in for replacement. Shipping costs will be reimbursed, of course. Once the new design is tested and implemented, we will post all necessary information for sending back your defective barrel for replacement.

As of today: 5/10/2011, we are halting shipments on the PMR-30 to reduce the number of potential key-holing pistols that go out. We estimate a 2-week period until shipments are resumed. We sincerely apologize to everyone who is affected by this. We hope that our customers understand that we are trying hard to make sure that the best possible product goes out.

05-14-2011, 9:06 PM
I still want one...!


05-14-2011, 9:51 PM
I still want one...!


*me too* :p

05-14-2011, 10:03 PM
what a shock...

05-14-2011, 10:25 PM
2 words for you

05-14-2011, 10:32 PM
At least it isn't a God-forsaken Obama administration initiated ATF 'non-sporting clause' ban attempt.

7.62 Charlie
05-14-2011, 11:08 PM
Well at least they aren't exploding:D

Full Clip
05-14-2011, 11:11 PM
At least they are dealing with the issue.

05-15-2011, 5:08 AM
I have a good impression of Kel Tec service. When I needed to send a pistol in the voice on the phone asked me what the problem was, told me it needed to be dealt with at the factory, and gave me shipping instructions. I had my pistol back, fixed, in about 3 weeks. No hassles, no drama. Whatever else you may think of them, the appear to take care of their product.
At least they are dealing with the issue.

05-15-2011, 5:45 AM
You'd think this is something they'd catch during product development. I still want one, and by the time I'm able to move out of state they should be good to go.

05-15-2011, 7:04 AM
At least they are dealing with the issue.

Same feeling here. Looks like existing customers get the new barrel and they are not shipping any new orders until the problem is resolved.

There could be worse recalls - like car brake failures or microwave ovens that catch on fire spontaneously.

05-16-2011, 5:10 PM
its not an issue of customer service, its the fact that there are issues in the first place, and big issues at that with just about everything they put out.

06-05-2011, 2:11 AM
gun is awesome to shoot regardless of these "potential" issues. i put two mags through it with no problems whatsoever.