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TheMan
11-29-2006, 7:03 PM
It didn't look like anyone else has tried it, so I figured it would be worth a shot to see if I could mount a FAL scope slightly offset so that I could use stripper clips with the fixed mag. As a bonus, it also retains use of the iron sights.

Opinions?

TheMan
11-29-2006, 7:08 PM
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/bradrs/FAL/S_FAL_scope4.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/bradrs/FAL/S_FAL_scope3.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/bradrs/FAL/S_FAL_scope5.jpg

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d129/bradrs/FAL/S_FAL_scope6.jpg

Q
11-29-2006, 7:13 PM
cool. very svd...ish. :D

-hanko
11-29-2006, 7:20 PM
A lot of European hunting guns are set up with a side-mounted scope. It's also neat to have instant iron sights if you're blowing up something closer in.

If you zero the scope at something like 25 or 59 yards, poi will be a little to the left of center. Double check at 200 or so to verify zero.

Nice job.:D

-hanko

TheMan
11-29-2006, 7:47 PM
I shoot left handed, so I will probably rotate the rifle slightly when I shoot anyhow, bringing the scope a little closer to inline with the bore, and making it easier to get a cheek weld. Hopefully it will minimize that POI shift, but I will probably try to make the sight axis parallel the bore axis in that plane, so that it will be about a constant 1-2 inches off everywhere. That should simplify the amount of thought I have to put into how much to compensate up/down and left/right based on range.

Qbert, my dragunov was what gave me the idea to try this scope mount out.:D

C.G.
11-29-2006, 8:15 PM
Good idea, but personally I don't know if I can shoot that way; I'll just get a short scope one of these days.

ivanimal
11-29-2006, 9:09 PM
The old top eject model 95's were mounted it a similar cant. That is part of the reason I went with the Marlin for my first rifle. I dont think us lefties will be using your scope soon. Great idea for a stripper clip fed rifle. Good job on fitting and machining impressive!:D

TheMan
11-29-2006, 10:51 PM
The old top eject model 95's were mounted it a similar cant. That is part of the reason I went with the Marlin for my first rifle. I dont think us lefties will be using your scope soon. Great idea for a stripper clip fed rifle. Good job on fitting and machining impressive!:D

No machining required. All of it is off the shelf parts. YHM makes a 45 degree offset rail for about $20, and I put a Larue Tactical scope mount on top of it. Since few companies put physical dimensions of their stuff online, it is a trial and error sort of thing. I took a set of calipers to online pics of both parts, and made some rough calcs. I guesstimated that I would get enough clearance for the stripper clips, and get the have the scopes eye relief and body in just about the right position. I got lucky on the first try.

I'm a lefty and will be shooting with it. My idea is to turn the scope in the rings slighty, and then hold the rifle at a slight angle. This will put the scope almost directly above the bore when you fire, and cheek weld(assuming left eye dominant left handed shooter) should be about the same as with a standard scope on a rifle held vertically. We'll see how it is when I go to the range.

If anything, I think the scope mount would be worse for the people unfortunate enough to be born right handed:D It'd be hard to get the proper cheek weld

SI-guru
11-29-2006, 11:55 PM
Since FAL is not my choice of high precision long range rifle, an Elcan at 3.4x is plenty good for me and keeping the feedrail clear.

http://www.hunt101.com/img/321856-big.JPG

I was considering modifing a pair of LH/RH version of Samason quick flip mount for a long scope but I can never justify needing a long range scope nor the high price for a pair of flip mount.

http://www.samson-mfg.com/images/products/3xgallery/images/Aimpoint%20w%203x%2045%20Back.jpg

bwiese
11-30-2006, 1:14 AM
Since FAL is not my choice of high precision long range rifle, an Elcan at 3.4x is plenty good for me and keeping the feedrail clear.

Yeah, get an Elcan or ACOG for a CaliFAL.

Another option are those milsurp 4X "SUIT" scopes.

Q
11-30-2006, 8:57 AM
Yeah, get an Elcan or ACOG for a CaliFAL.

Another option are those milsurp 4X "SUIT" scopes.

i had a suit scope. it was ok. wish i could afford an elcan.

TheMan
11-30-2006, 10:41 PM
I was considering modifing a pair of LH/RH version of Samason quick flip mount for a long scope but I can never justify needing a long range scope nor the high price for a pair of flip mount.


I looked at the Samson quick flip. Although it seems like a very nice product, it looked like a really bad idea for this application. It would require some sort of machining to get a long scope located on it with proper eye relief. Plus every time you wanted to reload, you'd have to flip that to the side, then back to shoot again. And on top of that, it was expensive.

If I don't like this, I basically wasted $20 on angled mounts(unless I use them to mount a flash light on one of my ARs). The Larue Tactical rail and IOR scope can easily find use on another rifle.